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Good panel discussion on Record Cleaning at RMAF2019 hosted by Fremer:-

 

 

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Guest DarkNark

Interesting, it seems that ultrasonic is probably the way to go for the ultimate clean.

 

Just wish that Charles Kirmuss bloke would be quiet!. Couldn't stop getting side tracked and trying to hog the limelight. Nobody else had a chance to speak unfortunately.

 

Until I get the funds for an ultrasonic cleaner I will just carry on with my Okki Nokki and Melody Mate. I will have to look into getting some spare felt "lips". I had never really considered them getting dirty but I do wipe them with a micro fibre cloth every few records.

 

Also interesting that the warn about using tergotol, something that I have seen mentioned online for home made solutions.

 

It did seem there was no general consensus on alcohol use though. 

 

Off Topic, Just wondering what brushes people use with their vacuum machines? My Okki Nokki goats hair brush sheds bristles and secretly it drives me nuts.

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2 hours ago, DarkNark said:

Off Topic, Just wondering what brushes people use with their vacuum machines? My Okki Nokki goats hair brush sheds bristles and secretly it drives me nuts.

This is the most effective brush I’ve experienced with a vet vac system:

 

https://www.bunnings.com.au/shur-line-paint-edger-specialty-applicator_p1660577

 

Not audiophile approved but brilliant at the job and replacement pads readily and cheaply available.

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2 hours ago, DarkNark said:

 Okki Nokki and Melody Mate

I've been using the same combo and I'll probably buy the Kirmuss cleaning system when funds permit. It was recommended to me by a Sydney dealer over the Audiodesk cleaner.

 

The Kirmuss bloke does come off as a little eccentric, this is not the first time I've seen him in action, they are a couple of Micheal Fremer youtube vids online.

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2 hours ago, Doppelganger said:

This is the most effective brush I’ve experienced with a vet vac system:

 

https://www.bunnings.com.au/shur-line-paint-edger-specialty-applicator_p1660577

 

Not audiophile approved but brilliant at the job and replacement pads readily and cheaply available.

Yep, I use 2 of the disposable version, but haven't disposed of them yet.

 

https://www.bunnings.com.au/shur-line-handi-painter_p1670161

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5 hours ago, DarkNark said:

Off Topic, Just wondering what brushes people use with their vacuum machines? My Okki Nokki goats hair brush sheds bristles and secretly it drives me nuts.

I've used an osage brush for a while and it does the trick

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Question

If tap water and distilled water, with out wetting agent is too thick to get to the bottom of a groove, why would that matter ,because surely a styles would not get as far down in to a groove as any liquid.

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4 hours ago, Doppelganger said:

This is the most effective brush I’ve experienced with a vet vac system:

2 hours ago, zenikoy said:

Yep, I use 2 of the disposable version, but haven't disposed of them yet.

2 hours ago, Goatboy said:

I've used an osage brush for a while and it does the trick

Thanks for the tips, I think I will try the disposable one to start.

 

Now back on topic,

1 hour ago, EV Cali said:

Question

If tap water and distilled water, with out wetting agent is too thick to get to the bottom of a groove, why would that matter ,because surely a styles would not get as far down in to a groove as any liquid.

 It makes me wonder how Record Revirginiser could work. I mean that stuff can be a gloopy mess, but I have had good results with it. Just too slow for me.

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I've just recently gone to ultrasonic and the improvement in sound is amazing!

Some details here:

 

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I just had a look at the Wikipedia on ultrasonic cleaners--no wonder they get the grunge out of the grooves.

 

"This creates compression waves in the liquid of the tank which 'tear' the liquid apart, leaving behind many millions of microscopic 'voids'/'partial vacuum bubbles' (cavitation). These bubbles collapse with enormous energy; temperatures and pressures on the order of 5,000° K and 135 MPa are achieved;"  (135 MPa is close to 20,000 psi!)😲

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