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Still a bit new to this 21st Century vinyl caper.  Back in the day you got a few dud albums and sucked it up. 

 

I have bought a brand new Dead Can Dance album.  One of the discs  appears to fairly bounce up and down indicating significant warping of the disc.  I can't detect deleterious effect on the sound, but you just know it is providing an extra challenge for accurate music reproduction.  (can't seem to attach a short video)

 

Should I accept this as withing limits or send back?  What would you do?

 

Thanks for the advice.

 

 

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Send it back.

 

Its also putting extra unwarranted strain on your cartridge's suspension.

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12 minutes ago, jamesrc said:

Still a bit new to this 21st Century vinyl caper.  Back in the day you got a few dud albums and sucked it up. 

 

I have bought a brand new Dead Can Dance album.  One of the discs  appears to fairly bounce up and down indicating significant warping of the disc.  I can't detect deleterious effect on the sound, but you just know it is providing an extra challenge for accurate music reproduction.  (can't seem to attach a short video)

 

Should I accept this as within limits or send back?  What would you do?

 

Thanks for the advice.

 

These days, unfortunately, a warped disk is not a rare occurrence!  :(  If you want to get on top of them - as it's such a PITA to keep sending LPs back - you need to invest in a 'Vinyl Flat/Groovy Pouch'.  See here:  https://www.vinylflat.com/ssl/vinylflatproducts.html

 

Or, if you have the ready ... this Furutech product:  https://www.avgallery.com.au/shop/analog-products/analog-accessories/df-2/

 

Andy

 

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1 hour ago, andyr said:

 

These days, unfortunately, a warped disk is not a rare occurrence!  :(  If you want to get on top of them - as it's such a PITA to keep sending LPs back - you need to invest in a 'Vinyl Flat/Groovy Pouch'.  See here:  https://www.vinylflat.com/ssl/vinylflatproducts.html

 

The Groovy Pouch and Vinyl Flat cost around $600 landed if anyone is curious. You also need to then buy a step down transformer here for it to operate.

 

I would love one but with the almost worthless Oz Dollar is makes things such as this, very expensive.

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They used to send it with a 240v power pack for Australia purchases. Has that changed?

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11 hours ago, rantan said:

The Groovy Pouch and Vinyl Flat cost around $600 landed if anyone is curious. You also need to then buy a step down transformer here for it to operate.

 

I would love one but with the almost worthless Oz Dollar is makes things such as this, very expensive.

If you get both products it adds to $220US, equivalent to $324.07AU for today’s conversion.   I supposed if delivery is factored in on $US and possible add GST it’ll be like you said, a wake up call @ around the $600 landed........      

 

anyone thinking of producing one here 😜     

it shouldn’t be that hard!  Couple of metal plates with a hole in the centre, use some heat resistance silicone rubber to protect the record, grab some metal clamps from Bunnings that can survive a bit of heat....clamp the the whole product to be flattened, sit it in the oven at a desire temp and experiment,,,,,  can’t see this to be none effective...  Possibly a lot cheaper than $600AU.

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3 hours ago, Addicted to music said:

If you get both products it adds to $220US, equivalent to $324.07AU for today’s conversion.   I supposed if delivery is factored in on $US and possible add GST it’ll be like you said, a wake up call @ around the $600 landed........      

 

anyone thinking of producing one here 😜     

it shouldn’t be that hard!  Couple of metal plates with a hole in the centre, use some heat resistance silicone rubber to protect the record, grab some metal clamps from Bunnings that can survive a bit of heat....clamp the the whole product to be flattened, sit it in the oven at a desire temp and experiment,,,,,  can’t see this to be none effective...  Possibly a lot cheaper than $600AU.

Australia...land of the too hard to do here, let's import it instead, more money to be made that way and less trouble!

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17 hours ago, andyr said:

 

These days, unfortunately, a warped disk is not a rare occurrence!  :(  If you want to get on top of them - as it's such a PITA to keep sending LPs back - you need to invest in a 'Vinyl Flat/Groovy Pouch'.  See here:  https://www.vinylflat.com/ssl/vinylflatproducts.html

 

Or, if you have the ready ... this Furutech product:  https://www.avgallery.com.au/shop/analog-products/analog-accessories/df-2/

 

Andy

 

 

I have owned my ORB Disc Flatter DF-02 ( Orb make it for Furutech) for over 11 years now.   

 

I feel for everyone that has warped/dished records as its a PITA.   

 

I no longer worry about warped records.   It gets a lot more work now than 10 years ago as so many pos 180gm records are dished these days.  Mainly caused by the useless record plants not allowing the required 8 hours cooling time before packaging etc.

 

The record flattener is THE BEST hifi product I have ever bought and has paid for itself a few times over.  

 

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There are a few shops who have invested in the flatterners providing a service going rate seems to be between $10-$15.

 

That is a lot cheaper then sending them back to the US for a credit and then pay postage for the replacement album.

 

For those interested in the vinyl flat this was my response;

 

In 2017, we moved production of the Groovy Pouch from China to the USA but we have not been able to locate a suitable 220 v heating element replacement here in the USA for our International customers who require a 220 v heating solution for the Vinyl Flat, so you have two options:

 

* You can just buy the Vinyl Flat and use it with your kitchen oven (see our Tips download .PDF file on our web site for more info).  

    Price:  Vinyl Flat discounted to $129.95 + Shipping $100  =  $229.95 USD

 

* You can buy the 110 V USA Groovy Pouch and purchase a 220v to 110 v step-down voltage converter separately in your country that is suitable for 150 W of continuous use.  

    Price:  Vinyl Flat discounted to  $129.95 + 110 V Groovy Pouch $79.95 + Shipping $108  =  $317.90 US converts to AUD 460 approx.

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4 minutes ago, PKay said:

There are a few shops who have invested in the flatterners providing a service going rate seems to be between $10-$15.

 

That is a lot cheaper then sending them back to the US for a credit and then pay postage for the replacement album.

 

For those interested in the vinyl flat this was my response;

 

In 2017, we moved production of the Groovy Pouch from China to the USA but we have not been able to locate a suitable 220 v heating element replacement here in the USA for our International customers who require a 220 v heating solution for the Vinyl Flat, so you have two options:

 

* You can just buy the Vinyl Flat and use it with your kitchen oven (see our Tips download .PDF file on our web site for more info).  

    Price:  Vinyl Flat discounted to $129.95 + Shipping $100  =  $229.95 USD

 

* You can buy the 110 V USA Groovy Pouch and purchase a 220v to 110 v step-down voltage converter separately in your country that is suitable for 150 W of continuous use.  

    Price:  Vinyl Flat discounted to  $129.95 + 110 V Groovy Pouch $79.95 + Shipping $108  =  $317.90 US converts to AUD 460 approx.

The $460 price does not include 10% GST and 5% duty as well as the cost of the step down, hence my "all up " price of $600

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Just now, rantan said:

The $460 price does not include 10% GST and 5% duty as well as the cost of the step down, hence my "all up " price of $600

So far on my smaller purchases ie, <$1000 they seem to go straight through, also no duty on imports from the US due to the treaty.  I would say you would have to be really unlucky to get slugged for the GST.

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3 minutes ago, PKay said:

So far on my smaller purchases ie, <$1000 they seem to go straight through, also no duty on imports from the US due to the treaty.  I would say you would have to be really unlucky to get slugged for the GST.

I guess so, but it would be just my luck to find a zealot customs person having a really bad day, but yeah, it could end up being about $520 with the step down..:)

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24 minutes ago, rantan said:

I guess so, but it would be just my luck to find a zealot customs person having a really bad day, but yeah, it could end up being about $520 with the step down..:)

I will probably get one if I can’t find a reasonably priced Orb online.  We already have the step down. 

 

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I got my Vinyl Flat and 240V Groovy pouch for US$223.90 including shipping to NZ in 2012.

 

Worth every penny.

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Thanks for the advice ( and info about a product I had no idea existed). 

 

The seller, vinyl.com.au are happy to take it back with a free post option, so I will pursue that instead.  Excellent customer service from them and prices are ok.

 

 

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