Rural Rat Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 From SHTV.This doesn't mean it is crap necessarily, but probably as GZ is rumoured to be the source. Let us know how you go Paul. Also, from someone else... Looks like some poor preparation from me. Should have read all that first shouldnt I. Still, it looks like a bit of a lottery so we will see what shows up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mondie Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 I figure I'll take my chances with the pressing which comes from Canada. Is the US pressing really going to be that much better?DS David, Did you order the 33 or 45? This re-issue is such a balls up! All 33's were mastered by Hoffman but only the US version of the 45 is, the EU 45 was not and apparently sounds inferior. So worth hunting an SH 45 or just stay with the 33. Cheers, mondie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidsss Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 I ordered one which is 2lps. Didn't specify the speed on the ad! I figured at that price I'll take my chances. I'm with you on the differences between the EU and US 45rpm, why would they be different remasters? It just makes no sense. DS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclemack Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 What's GZ? Cheers M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundfan Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 (edited) What's GZ?Cheers M This might help: http://www.gzcd.cz/vinyl-27/about-gz-458/gz-digital-media-459/ They are based in the Czech Republic. Edited April 23, 2011 by soundfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal beat Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 What's GZ?Cheers M Vinyl pressing plant GZ digital media in the Czech republic of dubious quality as far as source of their LP's go. They also use a softer vinyl compound to normal which IMO will have effects on the vinyl's long term playability. They are the cheapest in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toisich-Jnr Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 Just ordered the 33 1/3 version of Rumours from Acoustic Sounds along with the 180 gm version Of Dire Straits Making Movies. Meaning to get another copy of Rumours for a while as original second hand copy is beyond redemption - this thread prompted me and gave me a good source & very reasonable price. So ta to all posters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 Just ordered the 33 1/3 version of Rumours from Acoustic Sounds along with the 180 gm version Of Dire Straits Making Movies. Meaning to get another copy of Rumours for a while as original second hand copy is beyond redemption - this thread prompted me and gave me a good source & very reasonable price. So ta to all posters. Have you checked out Roots Records at Bellingen? My inlaws live at Repton so its nice to have a vinyl store to escape to when visiting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toisich-Jnr Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 No I didn't know it was there so thanks. Thought the only vinyl round here was second hand & much of it unlisten or unplayable. I visit Bellingen on a regular basis with work. So will have to coincide it with lunch & give the store a visit. Something else to look forward to after getting back to the daily grind. cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stump Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Arrived in 6 days from amazon ca. It's the EU 45 copy,will spin it tonight. I have a US copy on the way from eBay.Will do a AB when it arrives. Eamonn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidsss Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Mine arrived at work today too, won't open the package until I get it home. Likely to be EU edition as I ordered from Amazon Canada. Looking forward (well, maybe not actually) to your comparison Stump. I am not so much of a Fleetwood Mac fan that I will chase the US edition, but I do want to know if there really is a big difference. DS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idiotek Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 I got my copy from Acoustic Sounds (it was delivered to my work a week ago but had been on vacation). My back cover has Made in USA printed on it. When I get home, I shall check for the KG/SH in the dead wax. Apparently the EU copies will have Made in EU printed on the back cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stump Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Gave the EU 45 a spin last night and the overall pressing quality sounds ok.The instrument placement sounded a bit muddy on the first couple of tracks but after a couple of plays you get use to it.When the Steve Hoffman copy arrives Ill get a couple of people over to do the A/B as my ears may be missing something. Cheers Eamonn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidsss Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Thanks for the feedback, I'll probably get a listen on the weekend. DS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mondie Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Gave the EU 45 a spin last night and the overall pressing quality sounds ok.The instrument placement sounded a bit muddy on the first couple of tracks but after a couple of plays you get use to it.When the Steve Hoffman copy arrives Ill get a couple of people over to do the A/B as my ears may be missing something.Cheers Eamonn l dont think you are missing anything Eamonn, seems the EU pressing is pretty shite. The SH 45rpm is as good as the hype, the difference will smack you between the eyes, no need for an A/B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rural Rat Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 You wouldnt believe it but it now appears there is a EU version of the 33 as well! What a PITA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclemack Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 I've canceled my Amazon order for this as I just don't want anything but the US Hoffman pressing. So I've backordered via AS for considerably more. Now the wait... Cheers M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mondie Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 It will be worth it Mack. The 45rpm pressing is sublime, SH's mastering results in stupendous bass and highlights just how great LB's guitar work is on this album giving it a whole new life. The vocals are showing some signs of age on the mastertapes l reckon but it is still a must have album. How many top 10 best selling albums ever receive such a royal treatment as this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuzArt Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 It is amazing. I've only heard the Dr Robert 96/24 rip but it is a treat. The bass response blows me away. Beautiful imaging. Yet to do an A/B with the DVD-A and rip but I'm thinking from memory the DVD-A is more compressed. I don't think any of you who've ordered the US 2x45 180g will regret it one bit. Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundfan Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 (edited) I've canceled my Amazon order for this as I just don't want anything but the US Hoffman pressing. So I've backordered via AS for considerably more.Now the wait... Cheers M I've left my Amazon preorder open at the minute, but have backordered through SoundStage Direct to hopefully cover my bases. Sound Direct were charging US $44.99 which I think is reasonable seeing how pricey it seems to have become. Before placing my preorder with SoundStage Direct I emailed them, and was told that they were expecting to get the Hoffman mix from Warners. Chris Edited April 29, 2011 by soundfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggie Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 You can also get the 45 RPM version for $44.99 from Music Direct, they expect to have it again in mid may. I have ordered it along with a few others. http://www.musicdirect.com/product/90352 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowdownunder Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 It seems I got the last one of the first allotment from ED. So I've bought myself another copy as well as 33 & a bit from music Direct, thanks for the links. So how many were made?? on eBay I've read 4,000 units WORLD WIDE. and LTD ED 4000 as well as NOTE: This Audiophile Edition 45 RPM Pressing Will Only Be Pressed ONCE. Limited to 5000 Copies World-Wide. ! ED state • Limited to 3,500 copies in the U.S. Music direct state Limited to 5000 Copies World-Wide. So about 5000 worldwide and out of that 3500 for the US and 1500 for the rest of the world, who knows. Thank goodness for the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumanMedia Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 (edited) It's not the pressing that's an issue, it's a different mix and master. I figure I'll take my chances with the pressing which comes from Canada. Is the US pressing really going to be that much better?DS Edited May 1, 2011 by HumanMedia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valvelover Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 It seems I got the last one of the first allotment from ED.So I've bought myself another copy as well as 33 & a bit from music Direct, thanks for the links. So how many were made?? on eBay I've read 4,000 units WORLD WIDE. and LTD ED 4000 as well as NOTE: This Audiophile Edition 45 RPM Pressing Will Only Be Pressed ONCE. Limited to 5000 Copies World-Wide. ! ED state • Limited to 3,500 copies in the U.S. Music direct state Limited to 5000 Copies World-Wide. So about 5000 worldwide and out of that 3500 for the US and 1500 for the rest of the world, who knows. Thank goodness for the net. So the rest of the world gets discriminated against. Once again US business is a class act. Not to mention that they keep the Hoffman masters for the US and the crappy Euro masters for the rest of the world. Is it me, or is this whole process a piece of discriminatory shyte? I think I'll pass on this, just based on principle alone. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidsss Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I listened to the European pressing I got. I must say the mix is very good, detailed punchy and lively. Pretty bloody good actually. The only problem I have is with the pressing, a bit noisy between tracks although mainly on sides 1 and 3. US mix would have to be amazing to be much better than this. DS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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