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I currently have a Thorens TD-240 

It's time for me to replace my Ortofon 2M blue. I'm interested in upgrading to the 2M Bronze but I am open-minded to going all out for the 2M Black. It may be overkill though. Interested to hear any opinions.

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https://theaudiophileman.com/thorens-td-240-2-turntable-review/
https://www.ortofon.com/ortofon-2m-bronze-p-325
https://www.ortofon.com/stylus-2m-black-p-393

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Hi..

So firstly.. the 2M Bronze and Black are the same cartridge body with different stylus assembly choices to alter the sound.

 

The 2M Bronze is a lovely textured  sound that is slightly warm and rich in tone and really suits someone looking for a lush midrange.

 

The 2M Black (once setup precisely) adds deeper, tighter bass, more extended  treble detail and bigger dynamics ... it is however also less forgiving of vinyl that is not in pristine condition and does play with slightly  more surface noise i find.

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I would get the black, instead of getting the bronze and regret then have to get the black stylus....I used black before and you won't be disappointed. 

Alternatively, save the money keep the blue and put forward to the savings to upgrade the TT.

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Hi @mdm1979

 

Take some of your favourite records to a store and have a listen on the same system to the different cartridges to see which one you prefer.

 

JJ

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I bought the Bronze considering it's a more forgiving cartridge, have used it on a couple of turntables and have been very satisfied with the sound

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Guest Karl Rand
11 hours ago, wen said:

I bought the Bronze considering it's a more forgiving cartridge, have used it on a couple of turntables and have been very satisfied with the sound

Yes, the Bronze is more ‘forgiving’ but whenever I read these comments I wonder if the LP’s being used have gone over an efficient LP cleaning machine. 

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@Karl Rand in my case no, but at this point in time looking at building one

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Guest Karl Rand
9 minutes ago, wen said:

@Karl Rand in my case no, but at this point in time looking at building one

Brave man. When you get going a thread here covering your adventure would be worth reading.

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On 05/08/2019 at 10:42 PM, mdm1979 said:

It's time for me to replace my Ortofon 2M blue. I'm interested in upgrading to the 2M Bronze but I am open-minded to going all out for the 2M Black. It may be overkill though. Interested to hear any opinions.

Why stay with Ortofon?   Just my opinion, but you can get better value for your money with other brands.  

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I went from
The blue to a Soundsmith Otello

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On 06/08/2019 at 11:20 AM, dwbasement said:

I would get the black, instead of getting the bronze and regret then have to get the black stylus....I used black before and you won't be disappointed. 

Alternatively, save the money keep the blue and put forward to the savings to upgrade the TT.

I'm restricted to a fully automatic as my turntable is on a sliding shelf inside a cabinet. Gauging from the responses I think I'm going to go black. Unless anyone can find a higher quality fully automatic turntable?

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On 08/08/2019 at 11:13 AM, aussievintage said:

Why stay with Ortofon?   Just my opinion, but you can get better value for your money with other brands.  

Is there any you'd suggest?

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The Garrott P77i would be my suggestion....

I do have fond memories of the 2M bronze and for me it is the sweet spot in the 2M range....

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What topshelf said... 

im currently running the p77i and it sounds terrific. 

 

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I went from a bronze to an older mc, ortofon (hmc 30, with a fritz gyger 2 diamond)

If you can go MC, id strongly recommend considering it.

I swore I’d never go mc, and the bronze is a lovely cart. But the mc is a different level.

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