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If we had a 5th bowler the follow on might have been an option. M Marsh would have been a very useful bowler on this pitch & he swings it. Broad & Archer had great energy in their opening spells but both bowled 9 overs straight & batting got so much easier after they were replaced. If Smith didn't have such great eyes & reflexes he may have succumbed too. A few good balls just missed his edge. It was tough going out there. Play won't last til tea. I'd wager my house on it.

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9 minutes ago, cultfilman said:

We dont know that. Did Paine say as much. Our pace attack has been the best part of this team. So made sense to continue the pressure by bowling again while they were down on confidence. Had Smith not played another of his amazing rescue efforts.. not enforcing the follow on would have proven a massive error. We were 4/44 at one stage.

The bowlers had to bowl 107 overs in the Poms first innings. I'm sure they are glad that they didn't have to turn around & bowl another 100+ overs again.

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17 minutes ago, mikey d said:

The bowlers had to bowl 107 overs in the Poms first innings. I'm sure they are glad that they didn't have to turn around & bowl another 100+ overs again.

If the prize was the Ashes I wager my house that they would. Time was against us. You can tell by Smith's belligerent and at times chaotic knock that they missed a trick not getting them out before the f/o. Paine also played that way.. to ensure quick runs and a declaration. Then have a crack at them before stumps. Their Plan B  worked to a tee with Cummins snaring England's two best bats.

 

I do concur that a fourth quick.. Mitch marsh would have helped the cause. He is an underestimated bowler in my book.

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The only problem I have with the way we batted in that hour before the declaration is that it sent a message to England that this is an easier batting deck than it appears. ..and they are stacked with white ball specialists. We have already seen what one of them can do when he throws caution to the wind. I wont be celebrating until we have seen the backs of Stokes and Buttler.

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I only watched the 2nd session last night. Always fascinating. The quicks of both teams have bowled some really good spells. Glad other guys are enjoying it as much as I am.

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54 minutes ago, mikey d said:

I only watched the 2nd session last night. Always fascinating. The quicks of both teams have bowled some really good spells. Glad other guys are enjoying it as much as I am.

mikeyd it has been an enthralling series.  The two batting sides are below par.. bar two or three from both sides. Smith has been out in his own stratosphere. His impact akin to The Don back in the 30s when the Pommies tried in vain to remove him too.  The two bowling attacks have been brilliant for the most part.. with Broad and Hazlewood the standouts for mine. Cummins has been good too. 

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2 minutes ago, cultfilman said:

mikeyd it has been an enthralling series.  The two batting sides are below par.. bar two or three from both sides. Smith has been out in his own stratosphere. His impact similar to The Don back in the 30s when the Pommies tried in vain to remove him too.  The two bowling attacks have been brilliant for the most part.. with Broad and Hazlewood the standouts for mine. Cummins has been good too. Archer lacks stamina and maturity at this stage of his career. Come two years time and I expect a far better bowler to tour our shores.

 

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19 minutes ago, cultfilman said:

mikeyd it has been an enthralling series.  The two batting sides are below par.. bar two or three from both sides. Smith has been out in his own stratosphere. His impact akin to The Don back in the 30s when the Pommies tried in vain to remove him too.  The two bowling attacks have been brilliant for the most part.. with Broad and Hazlewood the standouts for mine. Cummins has been good too. 

It's a shame that Anderson is injured. he is a master swing bowler & I always think of England as being a swing bowlers paradise. Yep, seam bowlers & banging it into the deck on line & length is what we get in Australia but a bowler that can swing it both ways at pace are my favourites to watch. Waqar Younis and Wasim Akram were  pure genius. Terry Alderman owned a series in England with beautifully controlled swing. That's why I am partial to Starc. He gets driven because he pitches it up. If the ball's swinging, it's lovely to watch & almost unplayable. Broad's attitude has been outstanding & he has the skill to get front footed batsmen playing off the back foot. Bradman & Smith both back foot players. Says something really.

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Terry Alderman did own a series '85 or was it '89. What about Bob Massie in '72.. 18 wickets in the one match. A one hit wonder tho as he only took 4 more wickets for the rest of the series.  We all wanted to see James Anderson in his likely last Ashes. I wonder tho if he'd have been all that potent as the Dukes has barely swung. Australia has promising swing bowlers.. in Daniel Worrall and Nick Winter. Chadd Sayers has been a good swing bowler for many years. Odd he never made an Ashes tour.

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2 hours ago, mikey d said:

It's a shame that Anderson is injured. 

..eerrr no its not..Don't want to see Anderson at all really..;)

 

I remember some summers ago when Sachin Tendulkar was touring regularly to Australia, and the commentators waxing lyrical about how brilliant he is, and I hope we see another great innings by the great man??I couldn't understand it..Like, ask the Australian test team how they'd like to see Tendulkar -- I guarantee it would be the back of him as he walks off for nought every !@#$#$ innings mate....:D  

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I am feeling a lot better now with those two wickets before lunch. Hazlewood was metronomic while Cummins bowled quickly and with great penetration. Are Starc's  days opening the Australian attack at an end.

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I am feeling a lot better now with those two wickets before lunch. Hazlewood was metronomic while Cummins bowled quickly and with great penetration. Are Starc's  days opening the Australian attack at an end.
Fast bowlers get injured. We have four guys that are world class flingers so that we can be flexible. Not the worst situation to be in

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1 hour ago, mikey d said:
1 hour ago, cultfilman said:
I am feeling a lot better now with those two wickets before lunch. Hazlewood was metronomic while Cummins bowled quickly and with great penetration. Are Starc's  days opening the Australian attack at an end.

Fast bowlers get injured. We have four guys that are world class flingers so that we can be flexible. Not the worst situation to be in

Make that 5.. a fit James Pattinson. Pretty awesome attack.

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Hazlewood has bowled without luck this innings but he sure has built pressure. His current figures are 10-4- 0-12. Is conceding just over 1 run per over. 

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Ahh. How sweet it is. The " analyses" will no doubt follow. Let us enjoy the moment of wacking the poms in England.

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8 hours ago, cultfilman said:

Buttler showing some pluck to give England a sniff of a draw.

He needed Stokes to be brilliant again to bat out the overs with him.

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Our first England Ashes since 2001. Oh what a feeling. I am going to savor this sweet victory. 

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Now the dust has settled who in our underperforming batting lineup stays and who goes.
Just taking a look at the stats.

Warner 61@9.8. Does he have sufficient credit in the bank to remain. 2/10

Bancroft: 44 @11. . At least he hung a round and took some shine off the new ball. But he has a glaring tech problem that he seems incapable of rectifying. 3/10

Harris: 46 @11.5. Again he failed to get any starts of substance. 3/10

Khawaja: 122 @20. Never got out of a canter against the moving Dukes. 4/10

Labuchagne: 291 @58. The surprise packet of our side. Showed real character and tenacity and temperament when facing adversity. Great support of our master batsman. 8/10

Smith: Not mush more to say. His runs tally and average are astronomical. 10/10

Head: 191 @27. Started well then dropped off when some substance was required. 5/10

Wade: 201 @25. Made no major impact after his ton in first match. Did show some grit in last innings. 6/10.

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Now lets run a ruler over our bowling attack. For mine they won us the Ashes. 

Cummins: 4 -24 @17.3 . Simple. Cummo lived up to his reputation as the current worlds best bowler. 9/10

Hazlewood: 3-18 @ 16.8 The big Tamworth quick has learnt from his last Ashes 4 years ago and showed it with an imposing display of seam bowling. 8/10.

Lyon: 4-16 @36. other than his first test the GOAT never lived up to his reputation. 5/10

Pattinson: 2-5 @33. Below expectations. Has lost his venomous pace and presence. 5/10

Siddle: 2-5 @36. His usual wholehearted effort. But lacked the killer blow. Time for greener pasture Sids. 5/10

Starc: 1-4 @31 Other than one spell he was largely ineffective. He does tho have this nagging ability to produce a wicket from nothing and usually when needed. 5/10.

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3 hours ago, mikey d said:

Never in doubt :)

 

Just took a little longer than you thought... ;)

The Poms actually put up a decent fight and very impressed to see Stokes walk.

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Hats off too Tim Paine for leading us to this memorable win. He cops far too much flack from no it all keyboard warriors. They forget that he has restored respect in the Australian cricket brand. Hats Off Salute animated emoticon

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25 minutes ago, cultfilman said:

Hats off too Tim Paine for leading us to this memorable win. He cops far too much flack from no it all keyboard warriors. They forget that he has restored respect in the Australian cricket brand. Hats Off Salute animated emoticon

Tim Paine made some very clever choices ... the move to bring on the right arm leg spinner to change up the line of attack to Leach was genius.  So in this Test he did well.  However, it doesn't change the fact that in the Third Test, putting the field back to Stokes was a bad move during the last wicket partnership.

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Mitch Marsh back for another run, Head must feel unlucky.

Does that mean Marsh takes back the vice captains spot from Head?

 

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10 minutes ago, Tony ray said:

Mitch Marsh back for another run, Head must feel unlucky.

Does that mean Marsh takes back the vice captains spot from Head?

 

Looks like they are looking for support for the quicks on a batting-friendly pitch.

@metal beat will be pleased to see a Marsh back in the side ;)

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