Grizzly Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Is it possible to straighten a cantilever with some gentle force? It doesn't appear bent but is definitely off centre. What might cause this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juzbear Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 There is some asymmetry of the grey material where the cantilever exits the body. Maybe the suspension has had it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 The grey material looks to be a fabric covering the coils. I took a few more (hopefully better) shots. There is some asymmetry of the grey material where the cantilever exits the body. Maybe the suspension has had it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juzbear Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 I would be tempted to unscrew the cover and check out what is going on inside, though your tinkering instincts may differ from mine. I see what you mean about the grey material- I don’t think it is the culprit. Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martykt Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Sorry to say @Grizzly but I'd say the suspension has definitely collapsed. Unfortunately it's most likely a full rebuild or replace job going by the look of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheekyboy Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Grizzly said: The grey material looks to be a fabric covering the coils. I took a few more (hopefully better) shots. Hi mate, could be too little bias applied over an extended period, or it’s taken a hit when lowering onto the start of an LP. Don’t try and straighten it! Re align to cantilever and check bias/anti skate. Cheers Keith Edited July 20, 2019 by cheekyboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Hi mate, could be too much bias applied over an extended period, or it’s taken a hit when lowering onto the start of an LP. Don’t try and straighten it! Re align to cantilever and check bias/anti skate. Cheers KeithIt's an integral cartridge and armwand so no adjustment can be made unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheekyboy Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Grizzly said: 15 minutes ago, cheekyboy said: Hi mate, could be too much bias applied over an extended period, or it’s taken a hit when lowering onto the start of an LP. Don’t try and straighten it! Re align to cantilever and check bias/anti skate. Cheers Keith It's an integral cartridge and armwand so no adjustment can be made unfortunately Can you source a replacement cart for it mate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyr Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 16 minutes ago, cheekyboy said: Don’t try and straighten it! Re align to cantilever and check bias/anti skate. If by "Re align to cantilever " ... you mean twist the cart in the headshell so that the (crooked) cantilever is once again tangential to the grooves ... this doesn't sound like a complete fix, to me, Keith. Sure, the stylus may well be positioned correctly in the groove - but the other end of the cantilever will not be in its correct position, relative to the coils/magnets. So the channel balance will be affected. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheekyboy Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 17 minutes ago, andyr said: If by "Re align to cantilever " ... you mean twist the cart in the headshell so that the (crooked) cantilever is once again tangential to the grooves ... this doesn't sound like a complete fix, to me, Keith. Sure, the stylus may well be positioned correctly in the groove - but the other end of the cantilever will not be in its correct position, relative to the coils/magnets. So the channel balance will be affected. Andy Hello Andy, re alilgnment would be very small, but having looked closer at the whole set up, I think that a replacement cart would be the best bet, if one is available still. All better than a broken cantilever. Cheers, Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wimbo Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 @Grizzly Would be nice to see it tracking something mate. I think the antiskate could of caused this problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 [mention=106714]Grizzly[/mention] Would be nice to see it tracking something mate. I think the antiskate could of caused this problem.Antiskate would have pulled it the opposite way, once it's actually in the groove it's closer to centre, but still off a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 [mention=106714]Grizzly[/mention] Would be nice to see it tracking something mate. I think the antiskate could of caused this problem.Much better in the groove, and sounds great. Huge bass! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citroen Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 From the last post, I'd skew the anti-skate to the opposite of what it is now. This could re-align the cantilever over time. Worked for me on a Goldring MM but it wasn't nearly as off as yours. Otherwise, possibly the dampener is shot, so needs a professional repair. But if it plays as it does now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 From the last post, I'd skew the anti-skate to the opposite of what it is now. This could re-align the cantilever over time. Worked for me on a Goldring MM but it wasn't nearly as off as yours. Otherwise, possibly the dampener is shot, so needs a professional repair. But if it plays as it does now...That thought crossed my mind, and I did try it with antiskate cranked to 11 (as it were) but it wasn't straight even then, and I figured we were getting significantly greater wear on one channel that way. Maybe I'm mistaken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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