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for those who need 8 channel D/A converter with exceptional performance for reasonable money or those seeking stereo DAC with built in streaming capabilities, pre-orders for stereo version are currently on hold due to high demand so check again in few days/weeks if you are interested

https://www.oktoresearch.com/index.htm

 

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review, measurements and discussion

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-and-measurements-of-okto-dac8-8ch-dac-amp.7064/

 

 

 

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Looks very nice. I cant work out if it has crossover/dsp control on individual channels or this needs to be done on source software?

Presume the 8 channel unit is for a multisystem setup, I remember minidsp has something similar.

 

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Current units do not have DSP built in so it needs to be done on source side but who knows in the future, yes, multichannel or multiway systems

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For DSP work I’d think the Danville Systems dspMusik 2/8 is still a better bet.

 

Still we’re getting closer to ideal, and this Octo unit is very very nice. Price is reasonable too, a nice find. Thanks for passing on.

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Dang autocorrect

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1 hour ago, Suopermanni said:

How much is shipping?

send them enquiry via their webpage contact form and I'm pretty sure they will get back to you with shipping cost

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Okto say the stereo version will available in a month and cost €1089.

 

Aris

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Just heard back from okto research and the total will cost $1880 AUD. Thats including shipping. Pre orders available in the upcoming weeks.

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Thats more expensive than I was expecting, with the quality of lower priced dacs these days. Iam sure it is an amzing piece of gear.

 

So let me ask, is this the new form/method of "snake oil"?

Build an over engineered piece to obtain the best measurements possible (and all the fanfare that goes with it), then put a premium price on it.

In reality, will this stereo dac sound any better than a $300 Topping dac?? Dare I say, could anyone pick a difference in a DBT?

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The Okto Stereo DAC is attractive as it also has streaming capability via a RPi. It seems to measure better than most DACs and all things considered I think is reasonably priced compared to competition with similar functionality.

I have the RME ADI-2 DAC in one of my systems and can hear differences in the various filters it supports, and between the Topping D10, so I would hazard a guess that I will be able to discern against the Okto as well.

In my 2nd, less resolving system I would not be able to differentiate against most reasonably performant DACs.

For me, the Okto is a reasonable consideration compared to alternatives.

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Fair enough Aris.

RME make quality gear, I own some. Not sure you need expensive highly resolving gear to hear differences between filters, but I assume it makes it easier. I take your point about additional features with filter options etc. I would put it to you that with software there are more options and many other functions like PEQ and DSP. I see Okto actually had a minidsp integrated version until it was no longer available. That would have been an awesome device for active speaker systems.

 

To continue to play devils advocate, looking at the measurements and what is thought to be audible, is there actually going to be difference compared to cheaper dacs? People are ordering it based on measurements of other dacs (admittedly same implementation/technology) from the same company, before it is even released or been heard -for a relatively high price!! And all ready think it is wonderful. The new hype/flavour of the week now comes from measurements!!

As I said - a guy raving about it in a magazine or online versus measurements which go well beyond our ability to hear/differentiate. Is this the new method of "snake oil" to sell us expensive stuff we dont need or wont necessarily make a difference? 

 

 

 

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23 minutes ago, AudioGeek said:

Fair enough Aris.

RME make quality gear, I own some. Not sure you need expensive highly resolving gear to hear differences between filters, but I assume it makes it easier. I take your point about additional features with filter options etc. I would put it to you that with software there are more options and many other functions like PEQ and DSP. I see Okto actually had a minidsp integrated version until it was no longer available. That would have been an awesome device for active speaker systems.

 

To continue to play devils advocate, looking at the measurements and what is thought to be audible, is there actually going to be difference compared to cheaper dacs? People are ordering it based on measurements of other dacs (admittedly same implementation/technology) from the same company, before it is even released or been heard -for a relatively high price!! And all ready think it is wonderful. The new hype/flavour of the week now comes from measurements!!

As I said - a guy raving about it in a magazine or online versus measurements which go well beyond our ability to hear/differentiate. Is this the new method of "snake oil" to sell us expensive stuff we dont need or wont necessarily make a difference? 

 

 

 

 

Personally, in the case of the actual audibility of the differences between a great and a fantastic DAC, I think while small and perhaps inaudible in actual fact is more about trying to 'relieve' oneself of the sometimes ridiculous lengths we can go to achieve audio nirvana. 

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Yes, agree folks. I chose the RME for the non-DAC features and overall engineering quality from that vendor.

Also same for considering the Okto. It solves a problem (albeit aesthetically for me) having RPi’s with cables and power supplies etc. and is well engineered as well as per ASR measurement.

If not for the enhanced functionality I’m not sure getting the newest shiniest DAC of the day would make sense.

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Re cost, it’s built in EU so cost would be usually x% higher than if it’s build in China in bigger volumes, second significant cost is shipping coz it’s big and heavy compared to Chinese DACs such as Topping, it’s cheaper then RME ADI-2 here in EU and for what it does I would say competitive addition to the DAC market

 

if you already own quality DAC such as Topping or RME there’s very little point of buying this stereo version unless aestetic preference is in full size 

8 channel version is different story and its target market is elsewhere

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