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Trying to compete with Far Eastern TV manufacturers has proven too difficult for German luxury TV brand Loewe which will cease operations July 1st.

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'Far Eastern' ?

Does that mean East Asia?

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28 minutes ago, eman said:

'Far Eastern' ?

Does that mean East Asia?

Yes.

 

The television market has change since the 1st plasma, the writing  was on the wall, you cannot sell “German Quality “ engineering when R & D and production in the east can introduce new models every 6 to 9 mths.  Hence the reason why no company keeps spare parts, panels have fallen into the category of disposable(landfill)  item when faulty.    

Even many European manufactures regardless of market segment whether it be automotive or kitchen appliances are using facilities in the east to produce there own designs whether it be certain components or sections or entire products due  to cost reduction.  

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wow....

 

sad... it hit pioneer all those years ago with the kuro...it was reported they were making the S class mercedes of tvs in times when people didnt want to pay more than for budget korean...

 

that said the latest TVs are going way way up there in crazy prices ! the latest panasonic 65" has crept upto 8.5k ! this is a 4k set no doubt a reference level thing but  this is in age of diving prices .. .walked past the aldi 65" other day for tenth of price at $799 ! . But still  we hope there are still folk seeking the finer things in life... ie that last % of improvement even if it is at diminishing returns.

 

problem with loewe... and even panasonic or matter they are now using the same "far eastern"  or was asian basis as every other maker is doing these days :D just optimising...

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I used to dream of owning a wide-screen Loewe CRT back in the day. Everytime i went into my stereo shop they always looked so amazing - whether it was normal TV or a VHS/DVD. What a pity they closing down.

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I had a Loewe CRT TV, my biggest TV then, loved it. I had to buy SCART (remember them?) cables and adaptors.

 

Loewe was at the pinnacle of CRT TV and never quite managed the technology generation shifts and subsequent cost reductions.

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21 minutes ago, rowbo said:

I used to dream of owning a wide-screen Loewe CRT back in the day. Everytime i went into my stereo shop they always looked so amazing - whether it was normal TV or a VHS/DVD. What a pity they closing down.

agree... I always remember PQ being paramount wiht these no matter CRT or even later flat panels ive seen in action. they were quite leading with launch of digital TV in this country with digital tuner in their CRTs at the time not needing a set top box and looked wonderfull ! 

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That's a shame, they really are very nice but most think resolution is the only performance measure of a TV. Pretty expensive which didn't help. I never sold one

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My first tv was a Loewe, it was a CRT, and man was that picture aesome!!!  I loved it, but never bought one again though...  yes, very expensive.

 

Oppo out of the visual game, now Loewe.  More money elsewhere I guess in other products.

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8 hours ago, Snoopy8 said:

I had a Loewe CRT TV, my biggest TV then, loved it. I had to buy SCART (remember them?) cables and adaptors.

 

Loewe was at the pinnacle of CRT TV and never quite managed the technology generation shifts and subsequent cost reductions.

 

 

Ha!  I was the victim  of a burg many years ago and the crooks broke my SCART cable/adaptor trying to grab and run with the tv whilst it was still plugged in (I was giving chase at the time, mind you...)  I never thought I'd find a replacement, but the insurance company took care of that.  They were awesome, one connection at the TV end!

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I remember back in the day having a Loewe CRT TV and Blaupunkt hifi video recorder were what dreams were made of.  I got the Blaupunkt, but never the Loewe.

 

 Blaupunkt has been out of the quality video/TV entertainment industry for a while and now Loewe.

 

oh well, progression.

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Sad to hear. I lusted over owning one whilst doing work experience at Encel Stereo many years ago but ultimately purchased the first Phillips widescreen CRT instead.

 

 

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Edited by Tubularbells

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9 hours ago, betty boop said:

wow....

 

sad... it hit pioneer all those years ago with the kuro...it was reported they were making the S class mercedes of tvs in times when people didnt want to pay more than for budget korean...

 

that said the latest TVs are going way way up there in crazy prices ! the latest panasonic 65" has crept upto 8.5k ! this is a 4k set no doubt a reference level thing but  this is in age of diving prices .. .walked past the aldi 65" other day for tenth of price at $799 ! . But still  we hope there are still folk seeking the finer things in life... ie that last % of improvement even if it is at diminishing returns.

 

problem with loewe... and even panasonic or matter they are now using the same "far eastern"  or was asian basis as every other maker is doing these days :D just optimising...

You said it in a couple of posts  @betty boop

 

size is getting bigger and the bigger is better quoting you “ 65” is the new 55” “.     I remember buying my 1st panel so we can watch the Beijing 2008 olympics the biggest you could bet was 52”.   Of memory I paid around the $3900 incl 5yrs.   Still have it and it just won’t die so I can justify a 4K or an 8k    Now that’s 11yrs ago!  

 

You also said it in another post; “ the economy is in a real bad way for Australia,  low unemployment,  house prices falling its a buyers market for anything”.  

 

Unless you have mega $$$$ in your back pocket inching to buy a panel you’re looking at an OLED or a QLED....  info at hand is OLED is going to get better with a different materials that will put its natural burn out to pass tense but that’s a months off to years.    

 

Now when you consider technology happening at a rapid place where there’s new range of panels every 6-9mths cycle and new technology happening every 2-5yrs, continually falling prices, why should the average person go and upgrade!  Free to Air isn’t broadcasting 4K content etc etc    Also most evolving families like mine don’t even watch the the big panel anymore it’s all wifi NBN 100/40 where everyone’s on tablets and laptop screens.  Occasionally the panel gets turned on for a disc to shown up and even then most will have a disc drive to spin and watch it on a Laptop or a desktop privately.    I can’t justify a large screen these days.

 

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21 minutes ago, Tubularbells said:

Sad to hear. I lusted over owning one whilst doing work experience at Encel Stereo many years ago but ultimately purchased the first Phillips widescreen CRT instead.

 

 

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No offence to anyone but Alex Encel really didn’t do himself any favours during the digital transition,  the outspoken comments he made about digital in the green  guide was so misleading....  I put that down that he had a vested interest with Lowe. 

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12 hours ago, Addicted to music said:

 

  Also most evolving families like mine don’t even watch the the big panel anymore it’s all wifi NBN 100/40 where everyone’s on tablets and laptop screens.  Occasionally the panel gets turned on for a disc to shown up and even then most will have a disc drive to spin and watch it on a Laptop or a desktop privately.    I can’t justify a large screen these days.

 

You have raised a good point when you talk about ‘evolving families’  unfortunately what that means to me given this topic in many cases is family groups no longer wanting to share time together in the evenings socialising, this family intergenerational interaction dates back to ancient times sitting around a open fire through to the family Piano, then radio and then TV.

 

The affordability of and the leaps forward in technology in this generations time has meant home life has drastically changed given now most everyone, even in financially challenged families, can have their own personal entertainment which means each member of the family needs their own space and promotes separation.

 

Which is great for keeping the kids quite and giving adults space but not so good for building close bonds and or teaching kids how to interact with and listen to adults. It promotes from a early age having separate personal lives in the family home rather than shared family experiences.

 

Personally I don’t see this as a positive.

 

cheers Terry

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sad indeed. I had one of their TVs. The thing lasted 10 years or more, wouldn't pack it in to allow me to get a Plasma  :)

 

great TVs.  A bit of history gone.

 

 

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17 hours ago, metal beat said:

 

 Blaupunkt has been out of the quality video/TV entertainment industry for a while and now Loewe.

 

And you can add Nordmende to the list. Remember them?

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17 hours ago, metal beat said:

 

 Blaupunkt has been out of the quality video/TV entertainment industry for a while and now Loewe.

 

And you can add Nordmende to the list. Remember them?

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19 minutes ago, Mrpseudonym said:

And you can add Nordmende to the list. Remember them?

 

And what about Metz, they made nice TV's too

 

Scratch that, they have relaunched this year.... https://www.metzblue.com/en-INT/

 

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On 27/06/2019 at 10:49 AM, betty boop said:

agree... I always remember PQ being paramount wiht these no matter CRT or even later flat panels ive seen in action. they were quite leading with launch of digital TV in this country with digital tuner in their CRTs at the time not needing a set top box and looked wonderfull ! 

Always envious of their built in digital tuner Al ; component leads from my crappy dg tech2000a tuner just didn't cut it^_^

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I never thought I'd find a replacement, but the insurance company took care of that.  They were awesome, one connection at the TV end!

I had a Teac 80cm behemoth once and was astounded that its Scart connector had a S-VHS capability . Perfect for my JVC S-vhs machine . I got a custom hydra like scart made up that could switch my only port to it or my standard VHS Sharp . Scarts auto switching signalling meant it was like a dual tuner pvr [ well before topfield turned up :whistle: ]

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I have no sympathy for Loewe closing down, surprised they held out this long. Change and adapt or die.

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13 hours ago, F18 said:

I have no sympathy for Loewe closing down, surprised they held out this long. Change and adapt or die.

 

About that.

 

German press reckons they’re squeezed by their unions not allowing them to slim their workforce from the 400 they have to the 100-150 they actually need to run the company. 

 

Thats some entrenched attitude there.

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Ever since I owned a Grundig Porsche TV, I’d always compared these two brands. Needless to say, hated Loewe with a passion, horrid Telly’s. Good riddance. 

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Spent too much money sponsoring Jimmie Johnson in Nascar for so many years.

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