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17 hours ago, Luc said:

he's tarnished beyond repair and always will be and he brought my cherished game that I've loved since I was a nipper into permanent ill repute, he confirmed what pom's have thought for ages and nothing will ever change that.

I see this differently. I believe Smith knew nothing and fell on his sword after the fact, as any good captain would. He is not a man who is comfortable in front of the cameras and I'm sure the media adviser was sacked over how poorly things were handled. He simply stuffed up the admission of guilt and made it much worse than it needed to be.

 

Yes the team cheated, but show me a team that hasn't over the years. If you get the ball to reverse inside 50 overs you are doing something more than polishing 1 side to change it's condition. The best thing to come out of the fiasco is the improvement in on field behaviour, although I did notice Pattinson is up for a bit of verbal.

 

I think England had the first signs of reverse in over 24, not long before I went to bed. Because of the sandpaper gate fiasco, I don't think we will be getting much early reverse for some time.

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14 hours ago, Luc said:

Wade's shot to get himself out in five balls...he's always appeared a batsman who thinks he knows how to bat in a situation and then does the exact opposite. Big runs for Tasmania mean nothing in the Test arena. Would M.Marsh have done any worse I wonder and at least he can hold up a bowling end.

I thought he and Head both got excellent deliveries. Hard to get yourself in when the ball is decking both ways.

 

We took a punt that we could get through the first session without too much loss. That back fired and they now probably have the best of the batting conditions, was sunnier on day 2 than day 1. I've heard a few people say that Paine probably now wishes he lost the toss and bowled first.

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4 hours ago, Luc said:

Marnus Labuschagne in absolutely superb form and well suited and acclimatised to English conditions having starred for Glamorgan all year.

I've heard their home pitch is a road that plenty have scored big runs on. He's promising no doubt but Wade IS the form batsmen in the side leading in, the very best batsmen miss out sometimes.

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4 hours ago, blybo said:

but show me a team that hasn't over the years.

Your joking right?

3 hours ago, blybo said:

We took a punt that we could get through the first session without too much loss.

And how would England have gone on a pitch that had a first day hint of green(long gone now) and we had a coterie of bowlers who were confident they could swing it. Stupid decision from a Captain who doesn't have a lot of tactical nous.

No wonder Joe Root was all smiles on day one. He's got two bowlers with a 1000 test wickets between them and a third who's home record in Tests is brilliant. They'd of been high fiving in the dressing room and the taciturn Bayliss would of chuckled.

3 hours ago, blybo said:

He's promising no doubt but Wade IS the form batsmen in the side leading in

Promising? Haha... He's the form batsman in County Cricket, he's made runs all over England this season has over a 1000 runs now. Wade has form, has form in not being able to bring his  domestic form into the Test arena.

Sorry but I think your barking up the wrong tree.  Wade looked clueless.

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And Peter Siddle shows his worth yet again. He's bowled like this all year with Essex in County cricket against all these England players.. 44 extremely valuable runs and now two wickets and the fact that he can just trundle in all day if needed.

He cops flak from certain quarters in the punditry world but he's quality.

Lol, and Nathan Lyon gets Ali again, his true bunny.

Ali writes a column in the Guardian and the most recent one Ali said he wants Australia to take nothing home and to win nothing.

Here's hoping he's wrong eh.

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Don't you just love test cricket. More permutations than chaos theory. Glad we don't have to bat last

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I was about to post ‘don’t you just love test cricket’ and @mikey d beat me to it :)

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@Luc

Panesar shared an excerpt of his book 'The Full Monty' with the Daily Mail, where he revealed the tactics he claims the England cricket team used to maximise swing on the ball.

"We found that mints and sun cream had an effect on the saliva, and that helped the ball to reverse," Panesar wrote.

"I might also have 'accidentally' caught the ball on the zip of my trouser pocket to rough it up a little. 

 

"That was probably a hairline fracture of the spirit of the game, even if the laws said you were allowed to 'use your uniform'."

He explained the directions he was given by pace bowler Jimmy Anderson among others in the team, in order to get reverse swing.

"We all tried to change the condition of the ball, because reverse swing has such a huge impact," Panesar said.

"When I came into the England side, my job was to prepare the ball for the seamers. 

The ICC found South Africa captain Faf du Plessis guilty of ball tampering after using mints to alter the condition of the ball against Australia in 2016. He was also been fined for rubbing the ball on the zipper of his pants against Pakistan in 2013.

In the 2017 Ashes, James Anderson was accused of ball tampering after being seen digging his left thumbnail into the ball during Australia’s second innings in the Boxing Day Test.

 

..and then there's Pakistan...

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Stark would have finished off the innings before lunch. The bowler with the perfectly unplayable yorker.

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Too much smiling and good humour for my liking

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Agreed. Really annoying when tailenders get runs (except when they are Australian ;)

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11 hours ago, mikey d said:

Stark would have finished off the innings before lunch. The bowler with the perfectly unplayable yorker.

With a white ball yes. He struggles to control the red ball, especially when new. I was having the same thoughts as you though.

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15 hours ago, Luc said:

Stupid decision from a Captain who doesn't have a lot of tactical nous.

After watching last night do you really think he is the on field captain? He's there as captain in name only and to talk to the media. I'm sure there are team meetings to decide what to do if winning the toss. I'd say he is keeping Carey's seat warm while Smith is not allowed to be the official captain. Happy to declare I was wrong about Carey, but let's see how he goes in the long form.

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21 hours ago, wolster said:

Panesar shared an excerpt of his book

Yup. I've read extracts of it via the Gruan and other sites. To my mind it pales into insignificance as does Atherton's dirt in the pocket and Faf Du Plessis' mints or whatever they were.

Someone came up with the idea to go to a store and buy some sandpaper and tear it up into little bits and designate someone to use it. Has the question ever been asked  : 'Was Bancroft the only Australian fielder with sandpaper down his pants on that day in St. Africa?'

Were all the team on notice to throw the ball to Bancroft  while fielding or in between overs? This whole saga has been done for dinner in the media but ...it's never been investigated in the Australian media the way you'd expect a story like this to be looked into. 3 guys knew about it? Boof didn't, the bowlers didn't, the huge support crew didn't...

 

Anyway, it's now water under the bridge isn't it, you can't put Humpty Dumpty back together again, we're a tarnished sporting nation from now on forever and a day and no one will let us forget it.

Tell your kid he'she's watching possibly the greatest Australian batsman since Bradman(huge call isn't it)but basically he's a cheat, he cheated when he condoned cheating and that Genie aint ever going back into it's bottle and that's what P's me off. I used to think we held the moral high ground and it's a bitter pill to swallow that far from it we actually inhabit the nether regions, the low grounds, the place we're winning at any cost is what we want.

 

You'd like to think it'll never happen again but the doubt will always be there from now on.

 

 

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Hope people realise that cricket is showing 95 GEM HD and are not using 92 GEM SD...

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Love the fact that Head showed the face of his bat to the crowd/dressing room. Since when did batsmen think more about their sponsors than the moment by showing the back?

 

how good are Smith’s hands. A freak this bloke. Get on board boys 

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A good session for sure. Excellent run rate.

 

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@Luc

' I used to think we held the moral high ground '

 

Don't agree, Luc. Until that cheating episode we were generally known as the team most hated by other international teams. And that had nothing to do with our ability.

 

Anyhows, Smith continues to command the crease, Wade is looking more confident with each over and our lead is over 200. Happy days!

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Australia playing proper test cricket, only 4rpo. Smith wants to bat 'til next week.England going through the motions. BORING! I'm off to bed :)

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4 hours ago, Snoopy8 said:

Hope people realise that cricket is showing 95 GEM HD and are not using 92 GEM SD...

And it looks fantastic...

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Amazing how great the barmy arm sounds when you’re winning...  😂

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Should we have declared earlier? 

I often have the sense that Aussies captains bat too long before inviting the opposition to bat.

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2 minutes ago, wolster said:

Should we have declared earlier? 

I often have the sense that Aussies captains bat too long before inviting the opposition to bat.

Nope. Only 2 results possible. I'm betting my chookhouse on an Australian win.

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1 hour ago, wolster said:

Should we have declared earlier? 

 

 

Yep, for a couple of reasons.  More time and overs to take wickets, plus you want them to believe they have a chance so they take their shots.

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