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Ben Oliver, the man who (with Justin Langer) led the renaissance of Western Australia cricket, will take over as national male and female team supremo with  former champion Olympic rower Drew Ginn OAM to oversee Australia's state and pathway programs.. including umpire development, talent identification plus sports science and medicine.

 

The dual high-profile CA appointments represent a restructure of the previous High Performance role as announced in the wake of Pat Howard's departure last November.

 

 

Is CA simply exchanging one bloke for another without a cricket background  to run our national sport?

 

 

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GO GIRLS!!!. World champs once again. Excellent game. The premier cricket team in the world in both men and women's cricket. WD!! 86,000 fans come out on a Sunday night in Bleak City...WD!.

Begs the question doesn't it. He'll never be in the same league as Don Bradman  or Herbert Sutcliffe or truth be told, a whole heap of great batsmen.   He either oversaw a planned cheat

Hope people realise that cricket is showing 95 GEM HD and are not using 92 GEM SD...

Stuffed if I no what's happening but a rower overseeing cricket seems about right.

On a another topic they have certainly upset the balance in the One day side since Warner and smith have comeback. That and not picking Hazellwood to save him for the Ashes meets we have no chance of winning the World Cup. Defeated in the Semi final is my prediction.

 

Kwarjar and Marsh were travelling so well then they had to stuff with them.

 

WIN AT ALL COSTS  Cricket Australian moto.

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@Tony Ray Hazlewood was injured when WC squad was picked. He is going well in the A side at the moment. He will get good Ashes prep when the four day games are played later in the tour.

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One Aussie making a noise in English county cricket is this Qlander.
Marnus Labuchagne has a tidy 851 runs @65.46 for Welsh side Glamorgan plus has chipped in with the ball with 13 wickets @ 34.37 with his under rated leggies.

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boundary count back, WTF???

 

What's wrong with a second super over? I haven't watched any of the closing stages but it seems like NZ may have missed a few golden opportunities along with some English good fortune

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26 minutes ago, blybo said:

boundary count back, WTF???

 

What's wrong with a second super over? I haven't watched any of the closing stages but it seems like NZ may have missed a few golden opportunities along with some English good fortune

Totally agree - bloody ridiculous! If you have to look at the figures to determine a result then surely the team that lost fewest wickets in achieving the tied score should win - similar to how the Duckworth Lewis system factors in wickets down in rain affected scenarios.

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Stupid finish, another super over until you have a winner.

Boundary count back. First I've heard of that.

And I to thought the team that lost the least wickets would win.

 

Stoopid and dumb finish.

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35 minutes ago, Tony ray said:

Boundary count back. First I've heard of that.

I wonder if the host nation gets any say in this rule? England have built their team around hitting the boundary more than others so would usually go in their favour, or is it just some attempt to create more exciting cricket. Amazingly we were talking about a possibility of a score of 500 in the world cup. The 2 best games I saw (NZ semi and final) were both low scoring but intriguing to watch.

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Like I said never had heard about it but apparently England new of the rule before the game.

I cannot recognise the Poms winners and it should be a draw.

Even Ben Stokes dad said they should share it.

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How long till the Stokes overthrows are known as "The bat of God"? I'm not suggesting he meant it at all, but that good fortune makes Smiths nutmeg run out in our Semi look ho hum

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I thought It was a dead ball if it came off the bat.

Laws of cricket, I will never fully no them all.

 

I bet players start watching the incoming ball and accidentally get there bat in the way.

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just heard on SEN1116 that as Stokes had not made his ground when the ball hit is bat, it should have been awarded 5 runs, not 6.

 

Seems lots of little things went against NZ and England had the rub of the green, including the LBW against Taylor.

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Jason Roy should've been given LBW first ball. Staggers me this review system, fair enough if it doesn't pitch in line, it fulfilled 2 of the 3 criteria, in line and hitting stumps, and comes down to umpires call, what a crock.

Guptill should have been yelling at Boult to catch and throw to him, and yes, the 4 overthrows didn't help.

As I've read on various forums about the game, England didn't win it, they were awarded it.

Just have another Super over. Games of cricket are usually decided by how many runs a team scores.

Gutted for Guptill, hadn't faced any balls, yet he's got to hit 2 runs of the last ball!

 

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112 for 5

We have wasted two reviews. At this stage, we might need the bowlers to save the batters - yet again.

England, apart from Stokes, bowling well. A bonus for us that Anderson is gone.

And now Paine gone for 5...

6 down

Bloody hell

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Smith to the rescue, yet again. I went to bed around 11, straight after Wade went out. Up to that stage, Warner was not out and was obvious watching live it was worth a review (although did also get the rub of the green on first ball), Bancroft bad shot, when is he going to use a straight bat? Usman ordinary shot to a good ball but was looking quite comfortable. Head and Wade both out to beautiful balls that swung and moved off the deck.

 

I hope the crowd gave Smith some recognition for his great innings. If not i think it's time Aussie crowds started getting into Stokes the thug.

 

I think both teams batting line ups are their weakness, will be interesting series no doubt.

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Could not believe the score when I got up this morning. Smith is a marvel. And how good were Siddle and Lyon to stay with him? Watching replays this morning, there were more cheers and warm applause than boos right around the ground for Smith at the end of his innings.

Let's hope our bowlers can do similar damage this evening.

 

How good is Smith?

Only three men have played 50 Tests and averaged over 60. Don Bradman, Steve Smith and Herbert Sutcliffe, in that order.

 

 

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5 hours ago, wolster said:

How good is Smith?

 Begs the question doesn't it.

He'll never be in the same league as Don Bradman  or Herbert Sutcliffe or truth be told, a whole heap of great batsmen.

 

He either oversaw a planned cheating plot or he chose to turn a blind eye to it and the ramifications of it, along with his coach and his bowlers and his handlers.

 

Yes he is indeed one of the wonders of the cricketing batting world but..he's tarnished beyond repair and always will be and he brought my cherished game that I've loved since I was a nipper into permanent ill repute, he confirmed what pom's have thought for ages and nothing will ever change that.

 

I admire his skill, it's freakish and it's obviously a once in a generation or perhaps stands alone inter-generational.

 

His ability is gobsmacking and almost beyond compare but it's tempered with the fact that as Australia's captain he allowed the team, the entire team from management down to cheat and I'm personally ashamed by that.

 

I'd like us to win but...we're a damaged product aren't we.

 

* I'm sorry I forgot to mention(but I'm sure most tragics here are aware) that there are three batsmen whose Test average goes from D.G.Bradman and then Herb sutcliffe and then it's S.Smith

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3 hours ago, Luc said:

 

* I'm sorry I forgot to mention(but I'm sure most tragics here are aware) that there are three batsmen whose Test average goes from D.G.Bradman and then Herb sutcliffe and then it's S.Smith

Here are the top 20 @Luc Source: Howstat.com

Just as impressive are the caliber of players below.

 

 

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I should of mentioned that only three sit above 60.

The 17 below could blow out to the thirty below and so on.. Where do you draw the line?

Smith sits in a special space at this stage in his career.

 

*Eng showing Australia how to bat at Test level at the moment with the score at 103-1. Aus's much vaunted fast bowling attack looking a bit ineffectual on this pitch.

They should try pitching it up like the Eng bowlers did to great affect.

 

Wade's shot to get himself out in five balls...he's always appeared a batsman who thinks he knows how to bat in a situation and then does the exact opposite. Big runs for Tasmania mean nothing in the Test arena. Would M.Marsh have done any worse I wonder and at least he can hold up a bowling end.

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6 minutes ago, Luc said:

I should of mentioned that only three sit above 60

Yep. That would have been more accurate ;)

Gee, there are some characters in the crowd this evening. Almost as good as our Richies :)

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The English batsmen have shown us how to bat at Test level and unless we get an early wicket(the dangerous Stokes for my money) tonight then I reckon we're dead in the water, if we're not already that is.

 

Matthew Wade...I'd not of had him in the team especially when you have  Marnus Labuschagne in absolutely superb form and well suited and acclimatised to English conditions having starred for Glamorgan all year. Absolutely dumb shot Wade played in his 5 ball innings, unless he does something special in the second innings I'd have him out of the side never to return.

Paine displays little ability to be honest as Captain, not his fault of course but it would be nice to see him mix it up a bit. He has a very handy Leggie in Smith so why not bowl him in tandem with Lyon? 

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17 hours ago, Luc said:

he's tarnished beyond repair and always will be and he brought my cherished game that I've loved since I was a nipper into permanent ill repute, he confirmed what pom's have thought for ages and nothing will ever change that.

I see this differently. I believe Smith knew nothing and fell on his sword after the fact, as any good captain would. He is not a man who is comfortable in front of the cameras and I'm sure the media adviser was sacked over how poorly things were handled. He simply stuffed up the admission of guilt and made it much worse than it needed to be.

 

Yes the team cheated, but show me a team that hasn't over the years. If you get the ball to reverse inside 50 overs you are doing something more than polishing 1 side to change it's condition. The best thing to come out of the fiasco is the improvement in on field behaviour, although I did notice Pattinson is up for a bit of verbal.

 

I think England had the first signs of reverse in over 24, not long before I went to bed. Because of the sandpaper gate fiasco, I don't think we will be getting much early reverse for some time.

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14 hours ago, Luc said:

Wade's shot to get himself out in five balls...he's always appeared a batsman who thinks he knows how to bat in a situation and then does the exact opposite. Big runs for Tasmania mean nothing in the Test arena. Would M.Marsh have done any worse I wonder and at least he can hold up a bowling end.

I thought he and Head both got excellent deliveries. Hard to get yourself in when the ball is decking both ways.

 

We took a punt that we could get through the first session without too much loss. That back fired and they now probably have the best of the batting conditions, was sunnier on day 2 than day 1. I've heard a few people say that Paine probably now wishes he lost the toss and bowled first.

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4 hours ago, Luc said:

Marnus Labuschagne in absolutely superb form and well suited and acclimatised to English conditions having starred for Glamorgan all year.

I've heard their home pitch is a road that plenty have scored big runs on. He's promising no doubt but Wade IS the form batsmen in the side leading in, the very best batsmen miss out sometimes.

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4 hours ago, blybo said:

but show me a team that hasn't over the years.

Your joking right?

3 hours ago, blybo said:

We took a punt that we could get through the first session without too much loss.

And how would England have gone on a pitch that had a first day hint of green(long gone now) and we had a coterie of bowlers who were confident they could swing it. Stupid decision from a Captain who doesn't have a lot of tactical nous.

No wonder Joe Root was all smiles on day one. He's got two bowlers with a 1000 test wickets between them and a third who's home record in Tests is brilliant. They'd of been high fiving in the dressing room and the taciturn Bayliss would of chuckled.

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He's promising no doubt but Wade IS the form batsmen in the side leading in

Promising? Haha... He's the form batsman in County Cricket, he's made runs all over England this season has over a 1000 runs now. Wade has form, has form in not being able to bring his  domestic form into the Test arena.

Sorry but I think your barking up the wrong tree.  Wade looked clueless.

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And Peter Siddle shows his worth yet again. He's bowled like this all year with Essex in County cricket against all these England players.. 44 extremely valuable runs and now two wickets and the fact that he can just trundle in all day if needed.

He cops flak from certain quarters in the punditry world but he's quality.

Lol, and Nathan Lyon gets Ali again, his true bunny.

Ali writes a column in the Guardian and the most recent one Ali said he wants Australia to take nothing home and to win nothing.

Here's hoping he's wrong eh.

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@Luc

Panesar shared an excerpt of his book 'The Full Monty' with the Daily Mail, where he revealed the tactics he claims the England cricket team used to maximise swing on the ball.

"We found that mints and sun cream had an effect on the saliva, and that helped the ball to reverse," Panesar wrote.

"I might also have 'accidentally' caught the ball on the zip of my trouser pocket to rough it up a little. 

 

"That was probably a hairline fracture of the spirit of the game, even if the laws said you were allowed to 'use your uniform'."

He explained the directions he was given by pace bowler Jimmy Anderson among others in the team, in order to get reverse swing.

"We all tried to change the condition of the ball, because reverse swing has such a huge impact," Panesar said.

"When I came into the England side, my job was to prepare the ball for the seamers. 

The ICC found South Africa captain Faf du Plessis guilty of ball tampering after using mints to alter the condition of the ball against Australia in 2016. He was also been fined for rubbing the ball on the zipper of his pants against Pakistan in 2013.

In the 2017 Ashes, James Anderson was accused of ball tampering after being seen digging his left thumbnail into the ball during Australia’s second innings in the Boxing Day Test.

 

..and then there's Pakistan...

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11 hours ago, mikey d said:

Stark would have finished off the innings before lunch. The bowler with the perfectly unplayable yorker.

With a white ball yes. He struggles to control the red ball, especially when new. I was having the same thoughts as you though.

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15 hours ago, Luc said:

Stupid decision from a Captain who doesn't have a lot of tactical nous.

After watching last night do you really think he is the on field captain? He's there as captain in name only and to talk to the media. I'm sure there are team meetings to decide what to do if winning the toss. I'd say he is keeping Carey's seat warm while Smith is not allowed to be the official captain. Happy to declare I was wrong about Carey, but let's see how he goes in the long form.

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21 hours ago, wolster said:

Panesar shared an excerpt of his book

Yup. I've read extracts of it via the Gruan and other sites. To my mind it pales into insignificance as does Atherton's dirt in the pocket and Faf Du Plessis' mints or whatever they were.

Someone came up with the idea to go to a store and buy some sandpaper and tear it up into little bits and designate someone to use it. Has the question ever been asked  : 'Was Bancroft the only Australian fielder with sandpaper down his pants on that day in St. Africa?'

Were all the team on notice to throw the ball to Bancroft  while fielding or in between overs? This whole saga has been done for dinner in the media but ...it's never been investigated in the Australian media the way you'd expect a story like this to be looked into. 3 guys knew about it? Boof didn't, the bowlers didn't, the huge support crew didn't...

 

Anyway, it's now water under the bridge isn't it, you can't put Humpty Dumpty back together again, we're a tarnished sporting nation from now on forever and a day and no one will let us forget it.

Tell your kid he'she's watching possibly the greatest Australian batsman since Bradman(huge call isn't it)but basically he's a cheat, he cheated when he condoned cheating and that Genie aint ever going back into it's bottle and that's what P's me off. I used to think we held the moral high ground and it's a bitter pill to swallow that far from it we actually inhabit the nether regions, the low grounds, the place we're winning at any cost is what we want.

 

You'd like to think it'll never happen again but the doubt will always be there from now on.

 

 

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