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Mate well done on these ATC speakers.

I recently pick up a pair of the ATC SCM 40A actives and I am now totally hooked on active speakers and will never go back to passive again.

 

Only problem is I am already trying to see how I can step up to the SCM50SASLT..............

 

Active ATC are that good.😎

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19 hours ago, seadog said:

Mate well done on these ATC speakers.

I recently pick up a pair of the ATC SCM 40A actives and I am now totally hooked on active speakers and will never go back to passive again.

 

Only problem is I am already trying to see how I can step up to the SCM50SASLT..............

 

Active ATC are that good.😎

I know what you mean mate.

I have passive 40’s and active 100’s and the actives grow on me more every time I listen to them. 

What pre amp are you using?

cheers 

Liam

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On 22/06/2019 at 12:04 AM, Tobes said:

Your preamp outputs connect directly to the back of the speakers (which contain the power amps). 

The ATC's have balanced XLR inputs only - though they do show you how to connect preamps with RCA only outputs.

The speakers, of course have to be connected to AC power.

My main source is a Mac Mini which streams to a Benchmark DAC3L into the Benchmark HPA4 pre, then XLR out to the ATC's.

I'm using relatively cheap Mogami studio Gold XLR cables - good enough for the studios, then its good enough for me.😉

My AC cables are DIY VH Audio 'Flavour 2' with Furutech Fi-11ag  connectors at the amp/speaker end.

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I strongly suggest you try and audition a set of Cardas Clear XLR I/C's.

 

After that I highly doubt that you would still stick by your statement.......😊.

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1 hour ago, JohnL said:

 

I strongly suggest you try and audition a set of Cardas Clear XLR I/C's.

 

After that I highly doubt that you would still stick by your statement.......😊.

For $7500 for a 3mtr pair......

Will they be 50 X better than a quality pro pair?

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1 hour ago, Conch said:

For $7500 for a 3mtr pair......

Will they be 50 X better than a quality pro pair?

 

Highly doubtful but  also highly subjective.

FWIW........my used  2mt pair only cost $2K and I could never go back........😄

 

Considering that Tobes is using quality Benchmark gear into high end actives.......and

has already gone with higher end AC cables and connectors.....

.......why wouldn't you explore higher end I/C options?.....

 

Anyway........I sure am glad I did!!!!

 

Listen to some if you can and then you will know where you stand.

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9 hours ago, Conch said:

For $7500 for a 3mtr pair......

Will they be 50 X better than a quality pro pair?

Yes exactly. The XLR to my left speaker is 15ft - so about 5m.

There is no way in hell I'd spend that type of money on interconnects. I have compared the Mogami Studio Gold to Wireworld Eclipse 7 XLR (a set of which I still own) and the Mogami stack up pretty well. They sound different, but nothing that would justify the expense of buying a 5m set.

A single 15ft Mogami XLR is about $80 and comes with the industry standard Neutrik gold XLRs

 

I think money would be far better spent on acoustic treatment that could have massive positive impact on sound quality - far outstripping gains on expensive cables.

I'm not saying cables don't make a difference, I think they do, but value for money vs other options to improve sound is poor - and worse at the pointy end.

Cables are icing on the cake, not fundamental like acoustic treatment. 

I also think that the differences between unbalanced cables are more pronounced than XLR, probably because the former are far more likely to introduce noise to input stage of the next component. Properly designed differential balanced equipment will cancel any noise introduced to the cable.

 

BTW, here is a link to a video by Benchmark's John Siau where he demonstrates the effective noise suppression of  Canare star quad cable (similar construction to Mogami). I suspect many 'hi-end' cables would be inferior to these pro cables in terms basic noise suppression.  

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I use Canare L-4E6S star quad xlr cable with gold neutrik xlr on my 100ASL.

 

I have expensive xlr siltech , ps audio , furutech etc sitting in the cupboard that I'll get around to selling .

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On 12/07/2019 at 6:33 PM, Conch said:

I know what you mean mate.

I have passive 40’s and active 100’s and the actives grow on me more every time I listen to them. 

What pre amp are you using?

cheers 

Liam

 

I am using a naim audio 252 - 2 box pre. amp, with this mate.

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