PKay Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Thelastjedi said: Heard many great things about the geiseler dacs. Im deciding on either the Project Pre Box S2 which does the full unfold for MQA priced around $595, or the Klein III Geiseler Dac which is $650. I will be mainly using Tidal but I am wondering if its even important getting a dac that does MQA? Personally for the amount of music on MQA I didn’t bother. I would rather a good sounding Dac for all of the music I listen too. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddyev Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 I have a pretty big digital library but I listen to Tidal quite a bit, mainly for researching new music and find that a lot of it is on MQA. I use a Gieseler Gross and, despite it not being MQA compliant, find it’s very good with MQA and recommend it. However, I think if Tidal is your main source you might as well consider having a dac that optimally handles what they claim to be their best format, or alternatively use software that unfolds it first - not sure if something like Audivarna does this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stereophilus Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 35 minutes ago, buddyev said: I have a pretty big digital library but I listen to Tidal quite a bit, mainly for researching new music and find that a lot of it is on MQA. I use a Gieseler Gross and, despite it not being MQA compliant, find it’s very good with MQA and recommend it. However, I think if Tidal is your main source you might as well consider having a dac that optimally handles what they claim to be their best format, or alternatively use software that unfolds it first - not sure if something like Audivarna does this. Most renderer software packages can do the first “unfold” of MQA. So, if like me, you have a non-MQA DAC, but stream Tidal MQA’s via Roon, then Roon does the first unfold in the software. It’s not the whole enchilada, but it gives you something to compare to standard Tidal redbook flac. From what I’ve heard, the difference is negligible anyway. I too wholeheartedly recommend the Gieseler Groß DAC. I compared it to my Mola Mola DAC and found it to be very close in tonal colour and transparency. I still rate the Groß slightly behind the Mola Mola DAC and the Playback Designs Merlot DAC on absolute performance, but when you consider its price point (at 1/6 and 1/4 the cost respectively) its value cannot be ignored. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelastjedi Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Some very good points made. Will take everyones thoughts into consideration. I am also looking for a streamer. At the moment im only using a chromecast audio as the source . Should I consider upgrading source first before dac? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy8 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, Thelastjedi said: Some very good points made. Will take everyones thoughts into consideration. I am also looking for a streamer. At the moment im only using a chromecast audio as the source . Should I consider upgrading source first before dac? My own experience suggests that the DAC has the more influence than the streamer. Then there is the influence of the USB or S/PDIF connection between the DAC and streamer. It can get complicated and challenging. I'll throw a spanner in the works and suggest getting a high end streamer DAC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKay Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 See if you can get a second hand Blusound Node2. They have a handy Dac and do the first MQA unfold. Mine works really well with Tidal and then later on you can upgrade the Dac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelastjedi Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 hours ago, PKay said: See if you can get a second hand Blusound Node2. They have a handy Dac and do the first MQA unfold. Mine works really well with Tidal and then later on you can upgrade the Dac. I might be wrong here but is the Dac on the Bluesound Node 2, the same as the dac on the NAD C 368 Hybrid Digital Dac? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren2503 Posted July 25, 2019 Author Share Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) For those that are interested I must of listened to around 8 DACs. Including one that cost 6 times my budget before deciding on the metrum NOS dac . As far as MQA goes Metrum offers an MQA module but don’t recommend it. I believe NOS DACs do not benefit from tricks like MQA and won’t be ordering the module cheers Edited July 25, 2019 by warren2503 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian McP Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 new DAC on the scene from Rupert Neve Designs https://darko.audio/2019/07/rupert-neve-designs-announces-precision-dac-phono-pre/ yes, that Rupert Neve! https://rupertneve.com/company/history/ Legendary Neve mixing consoles https://rupertneve.com/ regards Ian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunno77 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 17 minutes ago, Ian McP said: new DAC on the scene from Rupert Neve Designs https://darko.audio/2019/07/rupert-neve-designs-announces-precision-dac-phono-pre/ yes, that Rupert Neve! https://rupertneve.com/company/history/ Legendary Neve mixing consoles https://rupertneve.com/ regards Ian I just watched the Doco on Sound City though I had heard of his console before. Would be one to watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKay Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Ian McP said: new DAC on the scene from Rupert Neve Designs https://darko.audio/2019/07/rupert-neve-designs-announces-precision-dac-phono-pre/ yes, that Rupert Neve! https://rupertneve.com/company/history/ Legendary Neve mixing consoles https://rupertneve.com/ regards Ian The headphone amp looks like pretty good value. https://awave.com.au/shop/monitoring/headphone-amps/rupert-neve-rnhp-headphone-amp/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian McP Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Bunno77 said: I just watched the Doco on Sound City though I had heard of his console before. Would be one to watch Saw The Cure at the Armadale Hotel in Melbourne in 1980, one of the best PA's I've heard, ever! Mixing desk was, you guessed it, a studio Neve 24 channel mixing console. PA speakers were Turbosound (now Funktion One https://www.funktion-one.com/about-us/our-history/ ) back to the DACs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunno77 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Here's some stuff on the album and the Doco can be watched on Netflix. The album is pretty good and gets some big names to join in. Can be streamed from most services I think https://tidal.com/browse/album/19090129 https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-album-reviews/sound-city-real-to-reel-108267/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren2503 Posted October 12, 2019 Author Share Posted October 12, 2019 Well after listening to many many option-no’s I have finally placed an order should have it in a few weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stereophilus Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 47 minutes ago, warren2503 said: Well after listening to many many option-no’s I have finally placed an order should have it in a few weeks You stuck with the Metrum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren2503 Posted October 13, 2019 Author Share Posted October 13, 2019 Yep the metrum pavane is on it’s way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren2503 Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 **** in the country but I won’t be able to get it running till the 15th . Man I am not good at waiting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren2503 Posted November 17, 2019 Author Share Posted November 17, 2019 Well I’m one very happy listener , the pavane is every thing I wanted and more and with tidal I have a world of pleasure 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stereophilus Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Photos please... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren2503 Posted November 17, 2019 Author Share Posted November 17, 2019 Ok next weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren2503 Posted November 22, 2019 Author Share Posted November 22, 2019 Well I have now had this Dac and all I can say it’s part of the family and it ain’t going nowhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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