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Since our house was first  built 17 years ago, the theatre has had a 110” screen.   At the time of the build we also had it decked out with cabinetry – it was the done thing.  Back then, some were still installing 4:3 screens and a  110” 16x9 screen was close to  the limit of what  many projectors could achieve .   

 

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While the screen size seemed perfect for 16x9 content,  movies in Cinemascope ( most of them)   were reduced  by the letterbox bars that are inevitable in this type of setup.  My aim with the screen upgrade was to keep the 16x9 images at what they previously were  and gain some dramatic improvement with movies.    I settled on a 140” Oz Theatre screen .

 

The screen was just part of major upgrade which included painting all the walls and ceiling , upgraded electronics and the most amazing centre speaker.

 

 

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Centre Speaker is Dynaudio Evidence with RRP of $39K  which I managed to buy secondhand.   It is designed as floor standing centre speaker - I tried it with conventional stands but the factory designed approach gives the best results. Sound wise this thing is nothing short of incredible .  Its resolution, soundstage, imaging and bass completely lifts the whole system.  It blends in seamlessly with the rest of the system . The fronts are Aurum Cantus Grand Supremes .  They also project a large soundstage and have excellent imaging .

 

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It is amazing what flock coating acoustic treatments  can do  to the WAF.  

 

Moving to a Dolby Atmos /DTS-X system meant 4 new ceiling speakers.  I settled on Polk Audio 70-RT from USA ( cheaper than buying locally)

 

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To drive the ceiling speakers I thought I would try a low cost option direct from China from a company called Wentins. I saw these  at the Ghanzhou AV show a few years ago and they  sounded great so I thought it couldn't hurt trying one out.   I bought a relatively cheap 5 channel  @ 200 Watts per channel. These guys make a huge range  and will custom make high power amps to your specs. 

 

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I had been using the original NAD  Master series M25 for the system previously  but after trying out the Wentins, it was clear it was doing things nicer than the mighty M25. It had all the speed of the M25 but with a richer timbre  and superior dynamics and bass.    This got me thinking,  if one of their cheapest amps sounded this good, how good would one of their better ones be?    I decided to relegate the M25 to ceiling speaker duties, use the Wentins multichannel amp for surrounds and rear surrounds , and ordered  hifi monoblocks  direct from the factory. 

 

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These amps are fully balanced and  produce 225 WPC into 8 ohms and 450 into 4 ohms. ( all speakers are 4 ohms in this system).  They were still well priced  but being hifi  amplifiers, they did not have a  12v trigger which I have since added.  The L&W brand is part of the Wentins group.    These allowed me to run balanced XLR cables to each amp and I'm more than happy with the result.  

 

 

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Impressive ! 

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Looking good! What projector are you using?

 

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Nice. I also run non matching speakers but cannot notice any difference. What sort of subs are you running?

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Projector is Sony VPL-VW760ES laser projector.     We still get amazed  with the images it creates and the latest firmware has  just pushed its performance levels up again. 

Projector mount is Peerless PRG - superb IMO.. 

 

 

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Very nice! Good choice in mount too.

 

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Subs are sealed 2 X Rythmik 12" units  which have their servo drive system that greatly reduces cone movement after the LFE signal has stopped. the result is very accurate bass. 

 

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I had the projector calibrated as well as audio measurement/calibration for the system.   I can recommend audio room analysis from this experience.   I thought I had things  sounding good until I heard what could be done after acoustic readings were taken and analysed.     I haven't finished in this area, i have new bass traps and acoustic diffusers on order.

 

 

 

 

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This is a 5KVA balanced and isolation transformer  and sitting on top is a 12V linear power supply .   I use the transformer  to power  the source gear and  Marantz Preamp  so its a bit of overkill for size.  The balanced windings effectively cancel out common mode noise  in the power line.  With my 2 channel system I use an Accuphase power regenerator and I installed the balanced transformer  to see if  I could detect any improvements.   Sure enough, audio has improved and I suspect that most of the improvement is coming from the Marantz 8805.  Interestingly, when I tried the same thing with the Denon AVP-A1HD Preamp, I couldn't really detect much difference which would indicate that the legendary Denon unit has superior power filtering to the Marantz. 

 

The 12V linear power supply powers a Zappiti One 4K HDR SE media player  and the occasional other unit such as Roku.  This is a definite plus IMO for both picture and sound quality.  Comparing Roku PQ to Apple TV 4k, Apple TV is far superior and that is with its built in SMPS.  Add the Linear PSU and the Roku gets a performance boost - still not quite enough to match Apple TV which indicates what a good job Apple has done with the hardware and their own SMPS.  

 

However, the LPSU does push the Zappiti ( and I would think equivalent Dune players)  to a new level. So much so I am struggling to pick any differences  between it and Oppo ( with its own LPSU) for 1080P material. For 4K, Oppo is clearly superior. 

 

I have also a separate balanced transformer powering the projector - It also has a 20V step down  function . I had a bad experience with Perth voltage with another projector and wanted to  avoid any issues.  I haven't detected any PQ improvements with the Sony PJ using the balanced transformer like I did with a Sharp DLP projector a few years back.  So clearly Sony's power management is better than what Sharp's was  earlier on.    

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Some great gear mate. Would be interesting to know the price of the Chinese amps

 

You run your 2 channel through the 8805?

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20 hours ago, Bunno77 said:

Some great gear mate. Would be interesting to know the price of the Chinese amps

 

You run your 2 channel through the 8805?

 

I have a separate  Magico S7 / Accuphase 2 channel system upstairs.   We do however use the 8805 for 2 channel occasionally - primarily streaming from my music server using Heos. I like the result.

 

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20 hours ago, Bunno77 said:

 Would be interesting to know the price of the Chinese amps

 

I bought my multichannel amp from this site.  Ive bought a few things from them and can recommend them. 

https://queenway.aliexpress.com/store/group/AV-Amplifiers/1070003_511406315.html?spm=a2g1y.12024536.pcShopHead_12029297.1_3_7

 

 

I ordered this amplifier and was told that they only make a 200W version now (which they sent for same price).  It doesn't look like they've updated the website. 

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The company makes a big range of gear only some of which is listed on that site.

 

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Absolutely beautiful! Both systems. 

 

Wow fantastic price for the amps

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 There will shortly be a new addition to the system  - Lyngdorf  MP-50.    Hopefully it will have  arrived and be installed by this time next week.......... 

 

 

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Now, that is what I call a processor!

 

Just like the rest of your gear, no half measures.

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 The Lyngdorf MP50 arrived  and you know they take room DSP seriously when you see that they supply a  professional looking mic with XLR cable and an all  steel Microphone stand.

 

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And installed

 

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As to performance -  simply stunning!    I'll probably post more detail - warts and all - in a new thread but in the meantime I'm still taking it all in and  re-discovering favourite movies.

 

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On 01/07/2019 at 1:46 PM, Tasso said:

 

 The Lyngdorf MP50 arrived  and you know they take room DSP seriously when you see that they supply a  professional looking mic with XLR cable and an all  steel Microphone stand.

 

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And installed

 

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As to performance -  simply stunning!    I'll probably post more detail - warts and all - in a new thread but in the meantime I'm still taking it all in and  re-discovering favourite movies.

 

That’s what I call taking DSP into another level, welcome to the club, even if I’m running only its 2channel integrated small brother after hearing what it can do it’s hard to go back 👍

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