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Title says it all.  Is roon worth it?

 

i already use jriver and it is good for what it is. Although there are a few quirks that drive me crazy sometimes. However I have invested many hours into jriver and I am rather proud of the tagging I have done with it.

 

but I have started to think about roon though - the interface and information seems good. I have yet to try the 14 day free trial though and to be frank, 14 days is not long enough for a trial as I am rather time poor at the moment.

 

but I would like to see what the consensus is - especially by those that have used both jriver and roon.  So is roon worth it?  I mean for the cost of roon, I can buy myself some more hardware - ie a new dac etc.

 

So opinions and thoughts please....

 

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Get yourself the 30 day trial. https://www.nativedsd.com/information/roon

 

I tried it, I liked it, but haven't bit the bullet. I am using Audirvana atm. Possibly if I buy a Nucleus one day I will get it.

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I thought when they added the ability to use convolution filters it was but I'd have to say no, it isn't. 

Edited by Bunno77
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I had a hard time justifying the price tag, until I used it. Now I can't go back to anything else, and either can the family.

Edited by Hydrology

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try a 60 day trial and should be easy to decide with this code  0PP0-M1NA-MLB4

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35 minutes ago, Hydrology said:

I had a hard time justifying the price tag, until I used it

@Hydrology

 

I agree.  Whether it is better than other products in terms of playback I cannot comment on.  It is flexible and to me an important value is the the database about the various files.  Not everything but most.  It can lead you into some interesting places and knowledge.  Worth the money.  Wonderful

John

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I have been a member for 18 months, and have to say that it is great if you have a large number stored files, and you want to combine it with streaming. I use Tidal, and find the mix of this with my own stuff is good. It is a fairly slick interface, and the metadata and information about artists and albums is cool. You will find that you may not agree with what is said about your favourite albums, but it makes the experience a bit more engaging. 

 

You do have to sort out a Roon core, which basically means a separate device. You can go anywhere from throw money and not think about it (Roon nucleus), to full DIY. You do not need that much computing power unless you are doing room correction or lots of concurrent areas- I used an old mac mini from 2009, though the most important bit was having 256gb of SSD storage to be Roon's brain. The music can be stored elsewhere on a regular old drive. The Roon community forum is active and helpful in getting you going.  

 

You can do life membership, or you can do month to month. It kind of surprises me that people are happy to pay for new cables, a third version of Belafonte at Carnegie Hall, or other woo, but are less happy to pay for something that you are directly interacting with all the time. 

 

Cheers

Justin

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Roon Radio alone is worth the price of admission. The amount of new music I have discovered since this feature went live is astonishing!

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My issues are

Always needing a core running. 

Not all Roon ready devices can be grouped together. 

Tidal's library is a bit limited. 

Finding new tracks via Tidal in Roon can't be added to Tidal playlists. 

Having a decent sized local library of 5000+ albums is near impossible to scroll through via the phone app (no scroll bar). 

Only having Tidal and Qobuz streaming services. 

 

Having said that it is quite nice to use for a proper listening session but using native apps for having music on in the house is much, much better I think. 

I'm waiting for more devices to use Chromecast. So far I believe Naim, Primare and Cambridge have adopted it. 

 

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Thanks for the replies.  I’ve decided to hold off on trying roon for a while.  I am thinking that if I did try it, then I would get “fixated” on it and waste too much precious time on tagging, reading and going through my rather large collection.  I’ve got a dissertation to finish and a baby coming in September so any reason to focus on my music collection may prove to be disasterous for me.  So I may set aside time in summer to transition to roon - depending on new baby requirements.

 

at the moment, i’ll Just keep listening and enjoying music to relax - not spend time getting used to new software. I hope that makes sense.

 

 

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21 hours ago, captain starlight said:

at the moment, i’ll Just keep listening and enjoying music to relax - not spend time getting used to new software. I hope that makes sense.

Makes very good sense (and I'm a Roon lifetime user).

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Worth it if you can afford a Nucleus and an iPad. I run mine just on a laptop and use an iMac or phone as remote. Not ideal but it's ok until I get the server + iPad in the house. 

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I love the convenience of Roon Having used it since the first days.

 

i have Qobuz added as well which I prefer over Tidal.

 

with regard to tagging and file naming, I add all new music to jriver temporarily and use that for tag editing before then dumping the renamed files on the NAS.

 

Roon for me runs fantastically on my Synology NAS.

 

the newer QNap and SYnology are fast enough to run a giant library (>10TB 300000+ tracks.  Just make sure you have at least 8Gb RAM.

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I subscribed to Roon recently. It works well for me since I'm lazy in the way I organise my media and Roon brings it all together, via it's interface, nicely.  I have used Audirvana and JRiver in the past and both are all very good, albeit with a little extra work in terms of media naming, metadata tagging, etc.

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9 hours ago, Demondes said:

I love the convenience of Roon Having used it since the first days.

 

i have Qobuz added as well which I prefer over Tidal.

 

with regard to tagging and file naming, I add all new music to jriver temporarily and use that for tag editing before then dumping the renamed files on the NAS.

 

Roon for me runs fantastically on my Synology NAS.

 

the newer QNap and SYnology are fast enough to run a giant library (>10TB 300000+ tracks.  Just make sure you have at least 8Gb RAM.

Can you sign up for Qobuz in Australia now? 

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1 hour ago, Jonny said:

Can you sign up for Qobuz in Australia now? 

Technically No

 

you just need to VPN to Uk when you sign up on the qobuz website. Don’t go through apple itself as that is  more expensive

 

once signed up they don’t seem to care.   I can now use Qobuz in Australia and even China where I am currently without the VPN.

 

i only signed up for CD quality as it is expensive compared to other services.  You can choose the cache locally the files you play

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Hmmm was happy to see this topic, given I am also pondering and pondering and pondering... (about roon software yes or no). Is there anyone (in Perth) who is using Roon and willing to maybe demo sometime during a day in a weekend?

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Hi @perthpete we have both Roon hardware as well as the software available to look at in the store. We use the software to drive most of our network audio infrastructure (Sonos, AirPlay etc etc).

Feel free to come in for a casual look any day that suits.

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On 08/06/2019 at 7:14 AM, frednork said:

Just for those trying Roon free, here is a link for Tidal hifi 90 days free to go with it.

Roon takes on another dimension when integrated with a music service.

 

https://offer.tidal.com/campaigns/5ced61f174bf330018621c43/products?geo=AU&campaignId=5ced61f174bf330018621c43

 

Yeah with Tidal a whole world of music opens up. Roon makes it so easy to access and provides the best looking and most informative and full featured interface.

If you love exploring music and digging deeper into the details of the recording, Roon is a wonderful tool. 

Well worth the cost IMO.

Edited by Tobes

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On 03/06/2019 at 8:19 PM, frednork said:

try a 60 day trial and should be easy to decide with this code  0PP0-M1NA-MLB4

Thank you, I'm going to give it a go!

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Wow, thanks for the code for the 60 day trial @frednork I'm hooked already, so many features and settings. I'm just using Tidal premium atm through my Topping D10 and it sounds damn good. I'll have to do some googling to see if there are better settings. It's coming through at 192 PMC atm. Can't wait to get my NAS back (it imploded). Hopefully the data is still there.

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So can you control Roon by Android if it's on a pc?

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