triguy Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Craig F;92037 wrote: I'm interested in what a $20k or $50k speaker would look like? Is it to do with the number of drivers, the height of the speakers, the room they're photographed in? Cheers, Craig. Colour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikecrumpets Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Craig F;92037 wrote: I'm interested in what a $20k or $50k speaker would look like? Is it to do with the number of drivers, the height of the speakers, the room they're photographed in? Cheers, Craig. What about a $300k speaker, like these, er, Von Schweikert VR11's I heard a few years back. That's li'l old 1.9m me propping one of the 350kg monsters up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimoke Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Ilikecrumpets;92061 wrote: What about a $300k speaker, Plus the $100k to take your roof off and hire the crane to install them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaspeedy Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Craig F;92037 wrote: I'm interested in what a $20k or $50k speaker would look like? Is it to do with the number of drivers, the height of the speakers, the room they're photographed in? Cheers, Craig. I guess it comes down to quality, complexity, and technology. A good example would be the Grand Utopia's, Wilson X? and I would have to say the big Sonus Faber (though complexity factors is lower). They all look like 50k+ speakers to me. Take a look at the adjustment mechanisms on the Grand Utopia and the Wilsons! very nice. Of course they better sound good too but that is to be expected in a large enough room that was designed around them with accoustic treatments, equally good amplification, front end, cables and power conditioning. I better not forget well cleaned and undamaged ears and the wife and kids out for the night, some top shelf singlemalt, no ice and a lazy boy chair. All you need to finish it off is your favourate CD or vinyl (most is digital now anyway cut onto vinyl so no escape there!!) that hasn't been messed around too much by a studio engineer. One day in another life maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electra Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Ilikecrumpets;92061 wrote: What about a $300k speaker, like these, er, Von Schweikert VR11's I heard a few years back. That's li'l old 1.9m me propping one of the 350kg monsters up! Pffft... Those are lightweights.... Similar stature to mine though, those about 7' tall? Fortunately my speakers are quite easy to disassemble - then the biggest single weight are the frames which are in the 100Kg each vicinity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triguy Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Ilikecrumpets;92061 wrote: What about a $300k speaker, like these, er, Von Schweikert VR11's I heard a few years back. That's li'l old 1.9m me propping one of the 350kg monsters up! Did you get a photo of the back? All the adjustments on the back really surprised me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frequentflyer1553552672 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 AudioEnz;92055 wrote: I haven't classed him as a non-hi-fi retailer. Parmenter uses TM as a very cheap advertising venue. Many non-hi-fi retailers use TM as a very cheap advertising venue. Therefore Parmenter, like many non-hi-fi retailers, uses TM as a very cheap advertising venue. Quote Audioenz Parmenter, like many (non-hi-fi) retailers, use TradeMe as a form of very cheap advertising Sorry Michael but from where I sit you called him a non hi-fi retailer or am I missing the plot somewhere. Does this mantle also apply then to Feedback Audio, Antipodes, Reference Audio all of whom to me seem to sell very high end hi-fi and without such people we would not have the level of gear in the country to choose from,audition and sometimes drool over. FF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nixon76 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Hmm, a case of lexical semantics vs conceptual semantics gone wrong? When written words are all we have on this forum, reading in too much or too little can cause problems yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jcooze Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 frequentflyer;92200 wrote: Quote Audioenz Parmenter, like many (non-hi-fi) retailers, use TradeMe as a form of very cheap advertising Sorry Michael but from where I sit you called him a non hi-fi retailer or am I missing the plot somewhere. FF I took it the way Mike ENZ (I believe he's a 1st cousin to his more famous relative Split ENZ) said he meant. If he'd said something along the lines of "like many other non-hifi" that would have been a different story. Then I would have taken it as irony on his part. Which is a slightly rhetorical way of complementing (and complimenting)Nixon's "lexical semantics vs conceptual semantics" point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nixon76 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Oh, and if we're talking big money speakers advertised/selling on TM, I'd get these: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Home-audio/Speakers-and-stands/Floor-speakers/auction-219787280.htm Would suit my amps just perrrrrfect. I don't even mind how they look either (usually for me big money speakers are visually challenging as a rule). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie1553552694 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 nixon76;92206 wrote: Oh, and if we're talking big money speakers advertised/selling on TM, I'd get these: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Home-audio/Speakers-and-stands/Floor-speakers/auction-219787280.htm Would suit my amps just perrrrrfect. I don't even mind how they look either (usually for me big money speakers are visually challenging as a rule). New house too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nixon76 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Ernie;92207 wrote: New house too... Definitely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 frequentflyer;92200 wrote: ... or am I missing the plot somewhere. Yes, you are. I'm not too up on the terminology of grammar, but if you remove the part of the sentence between the commas it still makes perfect sense ie, "Parmenter use TradeMe as a form of very cheap advertising." The part of the sentence between the commas ("...like many (non-hi-fi) retailers..." dos not alter this, but instead supplies additional information. jcooze is correct in that adding the word "other" would give the meaning you think. But nothing in my statement suggested that Parementer was not a hi-fi retailer. I'm sure there will be some grammar geeks along shortly to supply the correct terminology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electra Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 nixon76;92206 wrote: Oh, and if we're talking big money speakers advertised/selling on TM, I'd get these: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Home-audio/Speakers-and-stands/Floor-speakers/auction-219787280.htm Would suit my amps just perrrrrfect. I don't even mind how they look either (usually for me big money speakers are visually challenging as a rule). I am sorry, but those are just plain UGLY!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaspeedy Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 nixon76;92206 wrote: Oh, and if we're talking big money speakers advertised/selling on TM, I'd get these: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Home-audio/Speakers-and-stands/Floor-speakers/auction-219787280.htm Would suit my amps just perrrrrfect. I don't even mind how they look either (usually for me big money speakers are visually challenging as a rule). Definately not worth the asking price! 33K for a 12K speaker? WTF! Those Hornings are another story. Very nice looking and I bet sounding. At a reasonable 10K you would get a lot of good speaker for your buck. Oh and those Ravens look great too. http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Home-audio/Speakers-and-stands/Floor-speakers/auction-219916359.htm http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Home-audio/Speakers-and-stands/Floor-speakers/auction-219914368.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frequentflyer1553552672 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 AudioEnz;92226 wrote: Yes, you are. I'm not too up on the terminology of grammar, but if you remove the part of the sentence between the commas it still makes perfect sense ie, "Parmenter use TradeMe as a form of very cheap advertising." The part of the sentence between the commas ("...like many (non-hi-fi) retailers..." dos not alter this, but instead supplies additional information. jcooze is correct in that adding the word "other" would give the meaning you think. But nothing in my statement suggested that Parementer was not a hi-fi retailer. I'm sure there will be some grammar geeks along shortly to supply the correct terminology. This forum is very educational sometimes. FF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogger Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 Quote Audioenz Parmenter, like many (non-hi-fi) retailers, use TradeMe as a form of very cheap advertising this is really obvious. many retailers use TM as cheap advertising [ not a crime] The above statement quite clearly implies the only HiFi dealer to do so is the above mentioned banned from this forum person. This is not true as anybody can ascertain. Many HiFi dealers do this and we all know it. Wrong statement by he who must be obeyed. Relax Mick. You made an erroneous call. Very biased and inappropriate. tut tut. lets leave it and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 FFS, you guys really need to learn how to read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie1553552694 Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 You know something Mr Jones. I think you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siriosys Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 I think TM is a lot more useful to this forum than first thought http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/SearchResults.aspx?searchType=all&searchString=Learn+to+read&searchregion=100&type=Search Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frequentflyer1553552672 Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 AudioEnz;92303 wrote: FFS, you guys really need to learn how to read. I can clearly read the signs of bias,favouritism and prejudice when I see them even if I have lost the plot. FF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie1553552694 Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 frequentflyer;92320 wrote: I can clearly read the signs of bias,favouritism and prejudice when I see them even if I have lost the plot. FF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 frequentflyer;92320 wrote: I can clearly read the signs of bias,favouritism and prejudice when I see them even if I have lost the plot. FF I'm not sure why you think that one - and one only - hi-fi distributor should be allowed to use these forums as his personal advertising vehicle while other members of the hi-fi industry are barred from doing so. Perhaps you could explain your reasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curiousgeorgenz Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 AudioEnz;92325 wrote: I'm not sure why you think that one - and one only - hi-fi distributor should be allowed to use these forums as his personal advertising vehicle while other members of the hi-fi industry are barred from doing so. Perhaps you could explain your reasoning. I think it's normally referred to as 'guerilla marketing'... Correction... it's viral marketing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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