mtf Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 I had the pleasure of hearing the Mk3 recently and it sounded absolutely fantastic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugo_wilco Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 9 hours ago, mtf said: I had the pleasure of hearing the Mk3 recently and it sounded absolutely fantastic! So did I. It really impressed me. Was seriously looking at buying one! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKay Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 2 hours ago, hugo_wilco said: So did I. It really impressed me. Was seriously looking at buying one! How did it compare sound wise to your Ref2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugo_wilco Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Very different. There is something immediately grabbing when you listen to the SP10iii and that’s the pitch stability. You hear it bandied around but when you hear a familiar record you immediately notice how correct the pitch is. I guess y being so correct you lose a bit of the warmth / romanticism that a great belt drive conveys. The Technics is CD like in that way but without losing the things we love about analog replay. I can understand why it has so many fans and if I had the room I would love one. It’s a bit Ying/Yang. Having said that that I’ve heard the SP10mkii (and don’t flame me guys) but that isn’t even in the same playing field as the mkiii. It it would be mk3 for me all the way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal beat Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) With respect to the SP10mk2, the mk3 when released in 1981 was almost twice the price and twice the weight of the mk2. the mk3 platter weighs as much as the entire mk2 drive unit. The popularity of the SP10mk2 these days does not diminish as they are relatively cheap and certainly cheap for the performance they provide. The mk3 was the best motor unit Technics could make. The mk3 did not sell in large numbers, but they go for a pretty penny these days. The great thing about the Technics SP series is their bulletproof build. Many are still being used 40 years later. This is not unique to Technics, as Pioneer, Denon, Yamaha all have reliability unheard of in these days of planned obsolesce. I have owned a 1979/1980 Pioneer Exclusive P3 for 10 years this year and it's never missed a beat - never even had a cap replaced - touch wood . Edited March 24, 2019 by metal beat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelw Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) my old krebs sp10 mk 2, a bit battle scarred outside and inside it has needed a few rebuilds but sounds great. oracle 345 tonearm, lyra delos cartridge, purist audio design proteus provectus praesto (phew) arm cable on a solid jarah plinth and black diamond racing pyramid cones. Edited April 14, 2019 by michaelw 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtf Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 I might have to get one of these one day I think, how much are the Mk2s on average? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mloutfie Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 8 hours ago, mtf said: I might have to get one of these one day I think, how much are the Mk2s on average? It varies alot depending on condition. And fully restored would depend on finish. The cheapest would be used from Japan. You can get one for around $1000 un restored 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtf Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Thanks @mloutfie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelw Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 nb... look for an export version, that will have a multi-voltage power supply. strict jdm is 100v only us version will be 110v 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mloutfie Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Also monitor ebay uk there are many good ones from there if the seller is willing to ship 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Thorens Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Dear friends I am seeing some very nice plinths in the photos. At the moment mine is what came from the radio station and the TT sounds great however your plinths look nicer. It would be interesting to know how you obtained your plinths. Did you make them or buy them from somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKay Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 This is the Mk3 updated by Artisonfidelity. Their gear looks great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expat Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Bought my SP10 mk2 off a SNAer for ~ $750 (actually on eBay) as the TT unit and PSU only. Serviced, resprayed black and plinth built by the late Duc. Also sports one of his Univector tonearms with a Soundsmith MIMC cart. Since I've had this, the LP12/Lingo1/Ekos/Klyde next door hasn't had a look in. Sounds thick and cloudy compared to the SP10. All through the same phono stage (Goldnote PH10). Probably all up cost 3.5k for TT/Arm and so for the price of a Rega RP8, I think i've probably got a better TT. YMMV 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelw Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 not a fan of the heavy duty, overkill approach to plinths, albeit i like your square plinth a lot more than artisan's mr blobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Thorens Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 (edited) My plinth at the moment is just a heavy box type made of 12mm laminated particle board, I obtained a major improvement in focus and bass control by adding in anti vibration material - just used the Jaycar version of dynamat and works a treat. Added in a new 1877 phono tonearm cable obtained from a SNA member to the Ortofon AS212 tonearm and the deck sounds amazing. Edited April 13, 2019 by Mr Thorens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhel Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 I got 2 SP10 mk2. One originally used in Brisbane radio station with sme 3012R tonearm. And also with build-in MM phono stage. The second unit from japan. With SAEC WE308sx & Fedilty Research FR64s. Planning to re-condition my sme 3012r, anyone here know who can upgrade turntable? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Y Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Progress has been slow, but I have an SP-10 plinth build underway presently..... Cheers, Owen Dark Lantern blog - http://darklanternforowen.wordpress.com/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mloutfie Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Owen Y said: Progress has been slow, but I have an SP-10 plinth build underway presently..... Cheers, Owen Dark Lantern blog - http://darklanternforowen.wordpress.com/ CNC or laser cut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AccuMagi Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) Another follower....., Technics SP10 that is. For me the timing and attack are simply jaw dropping. Edited April 15, 2019 by Chanh 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Thorens Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Owen Y said: Progress has been slow, but I have an SP-10 plinth build underway presently..... Cheers, Owen Dark Lantern blog - http://darklanternforowen.wordpress.com/ Makes fascinating reading especially the concept of additional internal damping and that you are using light not heavy material for top plinth to avoid loss of microdynamic musicality. Edited April 15, 2019 by Mr Thorens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Y Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 5 hours ago, Mr Thorens said: Makes fascinating reading especially the concept of additional internal damping and that you are using light not heavy material for top plinth to avoid loss of microdynamic musicality. Hi @Mr Thorens - mass is useful to 'help anchor' the significant rotational torque of these DD TTs, but IME, we don't want it near the stylus/record interface. As this tends to rob the sound of its low level detail, harmonic info, harmonic decay, etc - things which are not the SP-10's strong suits anyway I hear (IMHO, YMMV of course ). This plinth will employ a 9kg stainless steel bott plate, to provide the requisite mass, but a low C of G & also to house an Albert Porter style 'noise sink' at the main bearing. A mock-up with 12" & 10" tonearms.... Cheers, Owen Dark Lantern blog - http://darklanternforowen.wordpress.com/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Y Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 7 hours ago, mloutfie said: CNC or laser cut? CNC cut - don't want to start any fires . Cheers, Owen Dark Lantern blog - http://darklanternforowen.wordpress.com/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Thorens Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) Thanks @Owen Y that changes the design thoughts I had about improving my plinth. I've actually had that experience before. Once had a Lenco L71 which sounded dynamic and detailed on a box plinth and then I got a Moldova 10kg plinth and bolted it tightly only to find that it deadened the sound and robbed dynamics and air. At the moment my SP10ii is on a box plinth that came from the radio station. Dampening the sides with Dynamat (Jaycar version) made a big difference to reducing resonance and enhancing image but dampening the top flattened the sound. So I will now consider adding mass to the bottom rather than the top. Edited April 15, 2019 by Mr Thorens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Y Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) @Mr Thorens - thanks, that's useful info for me, hearing independent experience - I'm encouraged. There are many structural details of the SP-10 MkII itself too, that can be improved, tweaked, I feel - but you don't want to 'throw baby out with bath water', so to speak. Cheers, Owen Dark Lantern blog - http://darklanternforowen.wordpress.com/ Edited April 15, 2019 by Owen Y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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