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Hi fellow SNA'ers

 

Last week I was fortunate enough to  get a SP10mk2 from a radio station that's in very lightly used condition. Looks like it came from a production studio and wasn't thrashed as a main studio item. It's the most amazing TT I've heard at my place. There doesn't seem to the a specific thread for these units. So let's get started! Here's pics of mine as I received it last week. (Upgrading is underway). 

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Once you've owned a good DD turntable like an SP10 there's no going back to belt drive.

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Without a doubt the BEST spinner on the planet for the money.  Idlers and belt drives are mere toys and farming machinery by comparison IME.  Unfortunately the SP10 MKII is often the victim of audiophools who poorly implement them and blame the deck.  There is no limit on their potential as they can be mated with arms and carts of the absolute highest calibre.  I've owned well over 250 turntables and still have about 20, but the SP10 MKII is still my reference.  My only 'upgrade' would be to a MKIII. 

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Love the simplicity of the table  AND that tone arm.  What type is it?

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56 minutes ago, mloutfie said:

nice arm

I think it's an Ortofon AS212mk2. I now have put a Quintet Bronze cart on it and it sounds amazing. So much scale, image definition, soundstage and with a good recording you feel like you're with the master tape and can notice all these details and the true timbre of instruments. Haven't heard anything like it. 

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Simple to use but a pain to restore or maintain though

38 minutes ago, aussievintage said:

Love the simplicity of the table  AND that tone arm.  What type is it?

 

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Yep, also settled on a Technics SP10 Mk II after trying many other turntables. Mine is plinthless (sounds v.good this way) and for the reason that I like to try out three arms and 10 cartridges and a plinth would get in the way. There is a long running thread on Audiogon discussing the merits of going plinthless, mainly that no vibrations can be transmitted via a plinth because there isn’t one!

 

Generally speaking, the Technics SP10 sounds fab because it is solidly built and spins the record accurately - what more can you ask for. The sound of them is precise and CD like to me, but with the vinyl virtues that mainly - the cartridge and phono preamp brings.

 

Cheers,

 

Steve.

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SP10mk3 for me.  One of MarkT's rejects :D    Stillpoints replace the stock feet and it sit on a granite slab supported by compression springs.  It has original SL1000mk3D P mount tonearm, with EPC-P100C mk4 cart or Thales Simplicity II tonearm with Lyra Atlas SL cart. Simplicity gets most of the play time, but its fun to swap back every now and then.   

Superb table with power and precision.

 

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Beautiful looking set-up, MB. :thumb:

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Has anyone here compared the SP10mkII or III to the new Technics Ref tables (SP10R / SL1000R / SL1200G )?

 

If money was no object, how do the new decks compare to the mkii/ii?

 

 

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I've tired both plinth less and plinth. I can see merit in both of them.

 

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Here's Johnny, another Mark T sale 😀

 

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I don't own a SP-10 (only a lowly SL-120 ;)  )  but have overhauled one and was very, very impressed by the build quality and stability. Yes, they are complex and I can see how they could be a nightmare to troubleshoot, but they really are a beast of a turntable.

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Lovely looking things ,  with state of the art engineering and built to last a lifetime or two.

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I had the pleasure of hearing the Mk3 recently and it sounded absolutely fantastic!:smile:

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9 hours ago, mtf said:

I had the pleasure of hearing the Mk3 recently and it sounded absolutely fantastic!:smile:

So did I. It really impressed me. Was seriously looking at buying one!

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2 hours ago, hugo_wilco said:

So did I. It really impressed me. Was seriously looking at buying one!

How did it compare sound wise to your Ref2?

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Very different. There is something immediately grabbing when you listen to the SP10iii and that’s the pitch stability. You hear it bandied around but when you hear a familiar record you immediately notice how correct the pitch is. 

I guess y being so correct you lose a bit of the warmth / romanticism that a great belt drive conveys. The Technics is CD like in that way but without losing the things we love about analog replay. 

 

I can understand why it has so many fans and if I had the room I would love one. It’s a bit Ying/Yang. 

 

Having said that that I’ve heard the SP10mkii (and don’t flame me guys) but that isn’t even in the same playing field as the mkiii. 

 

It it would be mk3 for me all the way. 

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With respect to the SP10mk2, the mk3 when released in 1981 was almost twice the price and twice the weight of the mk2.   the mk3 platter weighs as much as the entire mk2 drive unit.

 

The popularity of the SP10mk2 these days does not diminish as they are relatively cheap and certainly cheap for the performance they provide.

 

 The mk3 was the best motor unit Technics could make.  The mk3 did not sell in large numbers, but they go for a pretty penny these days.

 

The great thing about the Technics SP series is their bulletproof build.  Many are still being used 40 years later.  This is not unique to Technics, as Pioneer, Denon, Yamaha all have reliability unheard of in these days of planned obsolesce.

  I have owned a 1979/1980 Pioneer Exclusive P3 for 10 years this year and it's never missed a beat - never even had a cap replaced - touch wood :).

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my old krebs sp10 mk 2, a bit battle scarred outside and inside it has needed a few rebuilds but sounds great.

oracle 345 tonearm, lyra delos cartridge, purist audio design proteus provectus praesto (phew) arm cable on a solid jarah plinth and black diamond racing pyramid cones.

 

 

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I might have to get one of these one day I think, how much are the Mk2s on average?

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8 hours ago, mtf said:

I might have to get one of these one day I think, how much are the Mk2s on average?

It varies alot depending on condition. And fully restored would depend on finish. The cheapest would be used from Japan. You can get one for around $1000 un restored

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nb... look for an export version, that will have a multi-voltage power supply.

strict jdm is 100v only

us version will be 110v

 

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