Brad24 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Has anyone compared the Pioneer UDP-LX500 v Panasonic DP-UB9000 I priced these today & the Pioneer is $500 dearer My CA 751 BD is dead & I need a replacement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betty boop Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 i haven't seen anyone with both ? but then you'd probably get one or other ? what are you chasing in the player ? analog performance ? universal player ? just a universal transport ? cambridge has the cxuhd if just looking for a transport ? and its a true uhd/universal I have the pana that I am using as a transport really and I use a 205 player as a universal. ps can't the 751 BD be resurrected ? possibly just a simple fix ? or just want to move on ? could then continue to use as a universal and add uhd player of choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad24 Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, betty boop said: i haven't seen anyone with both ? but then you'd probably get one or other ? what are you chasing in the player ? analog performance ? universal player ? just a universal transport ? cambridge has the cxuhd if just looking for a transport ? and its a true uhd/universal I have the pana that I am using as a transport really and I use a 205 player as a universal. ps can't the 751 BD be resurrected ? possibly just a simple fix ? or just want to move on ? could then continue to use as a universal and add uhd player of choice The 751 BD's main board is faulty & is $721 to fix, it does what I want it to do but knowing my luck something else will break 2 weeks after I get it back. I cant justify the spend 2 channel sound is a priority, as well a quality BD player 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betty boop Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, Brad24 said: The 751 BD's main board is faulty & is $721 to fix, it does what I want it to do but knowing my luck something else will break 2 weeks after I get it back. I cant justify the spend 2 channel sound is a priority, as well a quality BD player I think I sold my 751 and then 752 at $650 or there about 2nd hand years ago... so no not worth it at that sort of money .... if 2ch and BD player, does that mean dont need uhd ? otherwise you'd want to explore both choice over analog id suggest. not sure many have compared both.... or which makes better 2ch player... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad24 Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, betty boop said: I think I sold my 751 and then 752 at $650 or there about 2nd hand years ago... so no not worth it at that sort of money .... if 2ch and BD player, does that mean dont need uhd ? otherwise you'd want to explore both choice over analog id suggest. not sure many have compared both.... or which makes better 2ch player... Uhd = ultra high def? sorry I struggle a little with some of what I read on this forum Ive read on some of the English reviews that the Pioneer is a little better for Audio so I’m leaning that way at the moment My AV amp is a Pioneer SC-LX83 which has been good to me I have another pre/power set up for the fronts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betty boop Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 15 minutes ago, Brad24 said: Uhd = ultra high def? sorry I struggle a little with some of what I read on this forum Ive read on some of the English reviews that the Pioneer is a little better for Audio so I’m leaning that way at the moment My AV amp is a Pioneer SC-LX83 which has been good to me I have another pre/power set up for the fronts yes ultra high definition uhd... you'd only look at these if needing that. if dont need that then can grab a legacy player. ie just blu-ray just keep in mind the lx83 wont pass uhd so unless planning to bypass it. if dont need uhd might be better off with a non uhd player pick up 2nd hand off the classifieds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad24 Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 12 minutes ago, betty boop said: yes ultra high definition uhd... you'd only look at these if needing that. if dont need that then can grab a legacy player. ie just blu-ray just keep in mind the lx83 wont pass uhd so unless planning to bypass it. if dont need uhd might be better off with a non uhd player pick up 2nd hand off the classifieds Yeah ok thanks Will a non UHD player have the musical capability of the Pioneer I spoke of above? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betty boop Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 19 minutes ago, Brad24 said: Yeah ok thanks Will a non UHD player have the musical capability of the Pioneer I spoke of above? There’s probably a ton of non uhd players with musical capability lot cheaper than the pioneer. if wanting it to be a blu-Ray player as well then limiting to Cambridge 751/752 or oppo 95/105 players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad24 Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 minute ago, betty boop said: There’s probably a ton of non uhd players with musical capability lot cheaper than the pioneer. if wanting it to be a blu-Ray player as well then limiting to Cambridge 751/752 or oppo 95/105 players Are any of these available new still? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betty boop Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 6 hours ago, Brad24 said: Are any of these available new still? https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Oppo-BDP-105D-Universal-Blu-ray-Player-Excellent-Condition/292998864832?epid=129001001&hash=item443817dfc0:g:42MAAOSwA05cgy5i just one example, check eBay and classifieds here, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad24 Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 3 hours ago, betty boop said: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Oppo-BDP-105D-Universal-Blu-ray-Player-Excellent-Condition/292998864832?epid=129001001&hash=item443817dfc0:g:42MAAOSwA05cgy5i just one example, check eBay and classifieds here, Thanks for the link Im going to struggle to spend $1000 for a used player. I think I’d rather buy new That said I bought my Monitor Audio fronts second hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Fi Whipped Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 What are you playing when you use the analogue outs of the player? CD, sacd? may even lay to get a cheap bd player for movies and a dedicated CD player for 2ch?? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad24 Posted March 13, 2019 Author Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Hi-Fi Whipped said: What are you playing when you use the analogue outs of the player? CD, sacd? may even lay to get a cheap bd player for movies and a dedicated CD player for 2ch?? Just CD's mate I thought of doing as you suggested but I do like listening to live blu-ray music concerts I liked the way my CA 751 BD performed & what I used it for Im leaning towards the pioneer UDP-LX500 If I have to update my A/V amp, so be it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betty boop Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 15 minutes ago, Brad24 said: Im leaning towards the pioneer UDP-LX500 If I have to update my A/V amp, so be it It’s not like it won’t play with the amp, it’s just that you are basically paying for uhd which if not using is a wasted expense. as suggested above a basic CD player even if new is worth considering I compared a 20 year old musical fidelity CD player with Cambridge 752 and oppo 105 and the old CD player actually did very well !!! Nothing wrong with old ! that said unless comparing on your avr for analog it’s all bit academic ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy8 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I agree with the others that your best value and best sound is have a good second hand CD player and buy a cheap new BD player. You are paying a premium for UHD for the Pioneer and Pana. By the way, have you listened to either of them? They may have different sound signatures and you may prefer one over another. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Fi Whipped Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Brad24 said: Just CD's mate I thought of doing as you suggested but I do like listening to live blu-ray music concerts I liked the way my CA 751 BD performed & what I used it for Im leaning towards the pioneer UDP-LX500 If I have to update my A/V amp, so be it Pretty sure the pioneer has two hdmi outs so you can send Audio through the av receiver you have and video straight to the display if needed on uhd discs. the pioneer also has a built in dac you could use an audio streamer with if desired pqls jitter free audio between the pioneer player and receiver you have is a nice to have also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad24 Posted March 13, 2019 Author Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Hi-Fi Whipped said: Pretty sure the pioneer has two hdmi outs so you can send Audio through the av receiver you have and video straight to the display if needed on uhd discs. the pioneer also has a built in dac you could use an audio streamer with if desired pqls jitter free audio between the pioneer player and receiver you have is a nice to have also. That's good news, thanks Im pretty sure that's how I had my CA 751 connected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobe1969 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Universal powersupply too. Nice. I have seen a number of posts on avsforum on layer change delays on 100GB UHDs. Anyone else gotten that? There is a new firmware that may fix it, but early days I don't have one of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betty boop Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 5 hours ago, Brad24 said: That's good news, thanks Im pretty sure that's how I had my CA 751 connected Unfortunate thing with using dual hdmi is it also opens up to chance of lip synch as audio and video processed differently in different devices at different rates. With large volumes of data with uhd this is even more issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad24 Posted March 14, 2019 Author Share Posted March 14, 2019 Thanks for the replies fellas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad24 Posted March 14, 2019 Author Share Posted March 14, 2019 well what do ya know 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwt Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 You know what this means don't you ?? ; compulsory upgrading of your display for UHD And buying a few sacd's and dvd-a's Congrats ; pioneer have some nice proprietary engineering and they always avoid oem parts if they can 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad24 Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share Posted March 16, 2019 So far pretty impressed with my new purchase 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobe1969 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 On 16/03/2019 at 2:19 PM, Brad24 said: So far pretty impressed with my new purchase Does anyone with the unit know what subtitle options there are? The Panasonic allows position and luminance adjustment, although not mentioned in the manual. What options are available on the Pioneer? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabz10 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Have the solved the issue with freezing on UHD titles? might be related to the 100GB layer change issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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