Perth.hifi Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Currently have Paradigm Designer / Signature Series Ceiling Speakers that will be converted for Atmos use. Now needing Surround Wall Speakers. Promising the following for use as 4 wall surrounds. Thoughts please? 1- Paradigm Millennia 20 LCR2- Paradigm Monitor Surround 3's3- Paradigm Premier 100B or 200B Power amplifiers used will be Parasound A23's, 125w RMS at 8ohmns, and 200w RMS at 4ohmns. 1- These are slim profile, types for front LCR, i don't see any reason why they couldn't be used for surrounds?2- Theses are surrounds are with directional drivers, which isn't ideal for ATMOS, but my room seating is not perfect, thinking the bi directional drivers might still work?3- These Are bookshelf units, alittle deep in size, so perhaps not the best option. Would greatly appreciate thoughts, or other suggestions. Trying to keep the rears and atmos at paradigm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AudioGeek Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 The studio range of the paradigm surrounds was better, the adp series had a 5th 7 inch bass/mid-bass driver. I still see them come up for sale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perth.hifi Posted January 12, 2019 Author Share Posted January 12, 2019 The studio range of the paradigm surrounds was better, the adp series had a 5th 7 inch bass/mid-bass driver. I still see them come up for saleI'm getting told to avoid multi directional types, for atmos. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AudioGeek Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Ah, I see. Sorry, dont know the answer to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WasM Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 On 12/01/2019 at 11:47 PM, Perth.hifi said: I'm getting told to avoid multi directional types, for atmos. Thoughts? Direct point source surrounds would be my preference, though room layout/speaker placement would be a big determining factor. Would you consider getting another set of paradigm ceiling speakers and wall mounting them? You could build a back box for them and wall hang, or maybe inset into the wall if construction suits? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perth.hifi Posted January 14, 2019 Author Share Posted January 14, 2019 Direct point source surrounds would be my preference, though room layout/speaker placement would be a big determining factor. Would you consider getting another set of paradigm ceiling speakers and wall mounting them? You could build a back box for them and wall hang, or maybe inset into the wall if construction suits? To much work, already a big job to get wiring to the speakers, gonna be exposed until i figure out way to conceal, feeling not accessible... was thinking the paradigm surround 3, or 1s, as I've not got a great positioning option due to raise ed rear floor... but these are bi directional...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WasM Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 whats your layout? I've got riser for back row seating. The side and back surrounds need separation to work well. TBH they sounded much better when I added some padded room treatment between them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perth.hifi Posted January 14, 2019 Author Share Posted January 14, 2019 Current celing speakers marked in red, and need to install rear and side wall surrounds, so basically the rear seats are the sweet spot.. front row of seating also shown...the new surrounds will be close to rear seats, so the bi directional might suit better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WasM Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 hard to know the scale - got some approx room dims? also room height and where you are going/able to mount the ceiling atmos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perth.hifi Posted January 14, 2019 Author Share Posted January 14, 2019 hard to know the scale - got some approx room dims? also room height and where you are going/able to mount the ceiling atmos?The current ceiling speakers will be the atmos speakers.... using them, so i don't have to install in ceiling again. Can't get cables thru due to being under suspended slab... insulation, double layer plaster, sound mounts ..etc. the room is 5740 x 4500, feeling at the rear is 2314 under bulkhead and 2572 in middle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WasM Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Can you move the side surrounds further forward? generally inline with the front row ear level? If you draw a line from the Front Left and Front Right speakers to the rear, I'd align the back surrounds to that. But if the FL and FR are straddling your screen/tv (so are placed much wider) and are closer to the side walls, then locate the rear surrounds no further than 30% in from the sides. Try to keep the mounting height the same between all the surrounds, so that will probably be dictated by the rear surrounds. I put mine about 40cm above rear seat height but I measured my speaker directivity angle and used that as reference to finalise the height position. If you are set on getting paradigms (which as another strong suggestion would you look at alternative speakers?), have a play with them in the room to see where they sound best, then consider adding room treatment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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