Guest Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) I really really realized at how incredible this machine is this morning (more so) I put on the album “Praises to the war machine” by Warrel Dane. I’ve been listening to this album for many years on different systems, and it’s one of those albums that can sound so different depending on what you playing it on. Worst case it can sound bloated and not very well defined. Well this morning I’ve never ever heard this album be controlled as effortlessly, bass lines are in perfect control, cymbals have that kind of sssss noise to them as if you were in the room with them and you can hear the space around the singer. This is no real Surprise to most, being this is how a good system operates, but especially that this fat sounding album to be pulled apart and presented in a perfectly ordered fashion. When you read people’s opinions on this machine the first thing they’ll say is that they have never heard their music sound as live as it does now, and that’s really what this thing excels at. On 11/01/2019 at 9:07 PM, agisthos said: There will be a performance loss there. I want a one box DAC that does it all. Considering that my Qutest is playing better than it ever has before, if there is any loss involved, it’s not being missed. If you keep waiting for what you want, you may be missing out. Edited January 12, 2019 by Sime V2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittaku Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 On 11/01/2019 at 9:07 PM, agisthos said: But I cannot imagine running the digital signal out to an external box and back in again is doing it any favours. There will be a performance loss there. I want a one box DAC that does it all. At great risk of being chastised for saying this: bits are bits while the signal is still digital and they won't get lost between multiple boxes. Adding other noise, quality of timing signal etc. are all other issues, but become critical only at the stage when you try to convert them to analogue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 @Ittaku and being Chord and the quality of their products, signal integrity is expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittaku Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) Just wish you were in Melbourne instead and could bring it around for me to try in my setup I'm still curious about the upsampling and ladder DAC combo. Edited January 12, 2019 by Ittaku 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 @Ittaku lol, pay for my flights and I’ll see you in a few? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittaku Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Well since I just bought a $70k DAC, I think I might hold off on any further purchases or pay for someone else's flights for the time being... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 @Ittaku compared to that dac, return flights from Canberra is chump change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittaku Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Just now, Sime V2 said: @Ittaku compared to that dac, return flights from Canberra is chump change Don't remind me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 @Ittaku hell, I’d pay the flights myself, I’d be keen to hear the difference myself actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittaku Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Sime V2 said: @Ittaku hell, I’d pay the flights myself, I’d be keen to hear the difference myself actually. Deal, I'll pick you up from the airport and open some nice wine for your efforts, or whatever your choice poison is... Edited January 12, 2019 by Ittaku Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 @Ittaku hmmm…………… im jus listening to Rush’s Fly by Night album, first time I’ve actually enjoyed the sound of this album. One thing Sir Rob Watts mentioned is that it does wonders to older recordings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximus Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 @Ittaku I've been a long time customer at CAV and quite often have taken equipment home for audition. I'm sure they could provide you with an MScaler if you ask politely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittaku Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Just now, maximus said: @Ittaku I've been a long time customer at CAV and quite often have taken equipment home for audition. I'm sure they could provide you with an MScaler if you ask politely. Good point, but I feel kinda bad since the last few things I borrowed from them I didn't like and returned them... Sime may just want to do this anyway for his own curiosity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 And a catch up/gtg. Could be a fun day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaynin Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Just now, Sime V2 said: And a catch up/gtg. Will be a fun day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 @Kaynin if you insist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 For its up and coming trip to Melbourne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittaku Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Make sure to bring some digital cables. You said there are "issues" with them. The signal going in and out will be RCA coaxial. Not sure what connectors the MScaler has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 @Ittaku I’m not sure where I said there where issues with the cables, never had a problem. Does your dac accept dual inputs simultaneously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittaku Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Just now, Sime V2 said: @Ittaku I’m not sure where I said there where issues with the cables, never had a problem. Does your dac accept dual inputs simultaneously? No it does not. I must be crossing my wires about the cables then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittaku Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) Looks like the mscaler has BNC connectors. I have some adapters but I guess I could buy some cables since I need RCA to BNC and I'm reluctant to just slap on an adapter, then I can make sure they're 75 ohm. Edited January 13, 2019 by Ittaku Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 @Ittaku The Scaler is all BNC but I’ll bring cables and adapters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 @Ittaku Ive got one BNC the RCA Clearer Audio cable I’ll be bringing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittaku Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Sime V2 said: @Ittaku Ive got one BNC the RCA Clearer Audio cable I’ll be bringing. Alright, I'll grab another since I need two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 My two new BNC-BNC digital cables arrived from England this afternoon from Clearer Audio. Will have a good listen to tonight when it cools down a bit here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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