Jump to content

Sign in to follow this  
Sime

Chord Electronics Owners & Discussion Thread

Recommended Posts

Just thought I’d start a thread about the Chord Hugo M Scaler, I’m going to the big smoke tomorrow morning to pick one up to pair with my Chord Qutest, so it’ll be interesting to see how it goes. I’ve already heard the difference an up Scaler can make, but this ones on steroids. 

So if you have heard one or own one, what are your opinions?

Im looking forward to seeing how it plays out. 

I am also going to have to look into a nice pair of BNC cables, so if anyone has any suggestions on those, it would be appreciated 👍

I simply loves DAC’s for some reason 🤪

 

6ECE7BB5-7E7D-4B86-A76B-5AEED86AE92B.jpeg

Edited by Sime V2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Melbourne or Sydney Simon? Interested to see how close it gets or even exceeds the Hugo 2 or TT. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Sydney mate @maximus

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites


@custom_made cheers mate 👍

 

I just messaged Rob Watts asking him if the M Scaler can pass through MQA data to solve my current 3 dac connectivity issue. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Looking forward to your impressions Sime, I'm getting a TT2 & M-Scaler for my second system (via a relative who's coming down from England in a few weeks). Feedback on Headfi on the M-Scaler has been interesting, with some users not hearing a difference and others claiming it's night and day, when not used with the TT2.

 

As a Chord DAVE + Blu Mk2 owner I can confirm that the old adage of garbage in garbage out applies. A BluMk2 or M-Scaler isn't going to make your YouTube or SoundCloud stream sound like a 24bit high-resolution file,  but feed it high-quality source material and prepare to have the combo take your breath away. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

@Galactic Soap yes, I’m prepared actually to not be hugely blown away, I’m keeping my expectations limited. It’s one of those devices that I like the novelty of, even at its price (I got a surprisingly good deal) and it might take some time to hear its benefits. But if it’s as good as one may hope, awesome, if not (system incapability) I’ll simply sell it at a good price to someone else. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

@Sime V2 - Good plan mate, particularly if you picked it up for a good price. It's at a price-point where moving it on shouldn't be hard. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites


@Sime V2  no probs with your system, the D3's will be revealing enough to hear any changes implemented. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

@maximus I hear cable changes, especially with the newer 8805, but we’ll see. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I also haven’t seen any info on how the Qutest reacts to a dual BNC input. Do you simply select one of the two inputs and it automatically uses both?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Got a Node 2i while I was there. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites


We expect detailed pics and updates please :) 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Installed

 

 

image.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 minutes ago, Sime V2 said:

Installed

 

 

image.jpg

Awesome gear there. What amp is Qutest feeding?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have the Dave & Mscaler , the Dave I have had for 2 years now and Mscaler for 6 weeks .

The scaler needed 85 hours before it sounded good , dull , flat and very little bass all that has changed now , its very hard to describe how much it has improved .

Not a night & day difference for me but a very clean natural sound still changing for the better . Went back to using just the Dave to remind my self of how the dave sounded but could not

bring myself to stay very long with that set up , it just sounded not right . Putting the scaler back in made all the difference , others have had a more dynamic change this all system dependant .

Cables , I use dual connection and this was a big head ache for me the supplied cables kept on dropping the signal about every 45 seconds , on the Head HiFi forums they have more details on 

others having the same problems , I did what Rob suggested and used the Toslink input and that was good until I got some cables to try .

I was lucky that I did not have to buy all the cables I tried because some of the more expensive cables also had that problem , so be aware that price alone does not mean it will work , I ended up using 

Beldon BNC cables for now I will stay with this cable until I am more accustom to sound of my HiFi before changing to another NBC cable .

looks like the scaler will need carefull choice of cables just like I did with the Dave .

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites


Well the only thing that I don’t like so far is that is cuts out and clicks here and there during frequency changes, say from red book to 96kh for example. 

 

But, boy is it smooth. The music seems more relaxed……………

 

@shihan171 can you enlighten me on what those 3 buttons on the right actually do, nothing in the instructions about them. 

 

 

Edited by Sime V2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The Two on the right do nothing for now they are there for future up-grade when the Divina Project gets finished .

As for the clicks you are hearing I never had that problem , I know that has been talked about on the Head - Fi forums others have had that click sound .

Worth your while looking there its a long thread I remember reading about this starts being mentioned there when they first went on sale in the UK so not

at the start of the thread but later on round about page 100 I think ?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Apart from the SR issues during changing, I’m currently talking to Rob Watts about it, here are my first impressions. 

 

The change isn’t subtle at all, it’s very noticeable, and I’m so glad it is (didn’t waste my money 😂)

All the digital glare that some tracks had has gone. One thing I noticed was that it’s a tad quieter when engaged, and I’m guessing because of how much cleaner the tracks are. It’s extremely more noticeable when I use it on my Mytek Brooklyn. The best thing about that dac is that you can instantly A/B it, but funnily enough, the improvement doesn’t need such a radical test. 

On the Brooklyn using 1 COAX out of the M Scaler, it up samples Redbook to 352Kh and I also have the Node2i connected  directly to the Brooklyn via Toslink. I played a track I knew well firstly through the M Scaler and yeah, it was great, but then I switched over to the Node2i directly and all the harshness that’s plagued my system since the 8805 was introduced came back, switched back and all gone, replaced with a very smooth sound, with more detail ( 8805 is a more brutally honest pre over the 8801) 

It’s fully obvious to me when Rob watts lectured that this device brings digital audio closer to the original source. It’s very relaxing to listen to. Music also “seems” like it’s playing at a slower pace, but that’s because it’s a lot calmer than before. 

Imo, anyone who has a decent dac, especially a dual input Chord DAC, should at least give it a go. I even think that the digital hating, all vinyl listeners might turn an eye, if even slightly 😉

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Um, so when is the "get together"? I really want to sample the M Scaler, although I'll never be able to afford it 😂

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
59 minutes ago, dolphy said:

Um, so when is the "get together"? I really want to sample the M Scaler, although I'll never be able to afford it 😂

Actually, if you want a get together, organize one I’ll bring the M Scaler with the qutest to yours if you like.  

Edited by Sime V2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I don't think my setup is worthy of an M Scaler :(

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

@dolphy you’ll be surprised, I think any system with a digital front end will benefit. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, Sime V2 said:

Apart from the SR issues during changing, I’m currently talking to Rob Watts about it, here are my first impressions. 

 

The change isn’t subtle at all, it’s very noticeable, and I’m so glad it is (didn’t waste my money 😂)

All the digital glare that some tracks had has gone. One thing I noticed was that it’s a tad quieter when engaged, and I’m guessing because of how much cleaner the tracks are. It’s extremely more noticeable when I use it on my Mytek Brooklyn. The best thing about that dac is that you can instantly A/B it, but funnily enough, the improvement doesn’t need such a radical test. 

On the Brooklyn using 1 COAX out of the M Scaler, it up samples Redbook to 352Kh and I also have the Node2i connected  directly to the Brooklyn via Toslink. I played a track I knew well firstly through the M Scaler and yeah, it was great, but then I switched over to the Node2i directly and all the harshness that’s plagued my system since the 8805 was introduced came back, switched back and all gone, replaced with a very smooth sound, with more detail ( 8805 is a more brutally honest pre over the 8801) 

It’s fully obvious to me when Rob watts lectured that this device brings digital audio closer to the original source. It’s very relaxing to listen to. Music also “seems” like it’s playing at a slower pace, but that’s because it’s a lot calmer than before. 

Imo, anyone who has a decent dac, especially a dual input Chord DAC, should at least give it a go. I even think that the digital hating, all vinyl listeners might turn an eye, if even slightly 😉

Hi Sime

 

You raise an interesting point in your ABing of the Qutest vs the Mytek. I had asked Chord a question about the M Scaler which they hadn't got back to me on. That question was, does the M Scaler output from the dual BNCs and S/PDIF at the same time? Not necessarily to play at the same time, but so that you can leave both cables connected and not have to do any switching. Can I assume from your testing that it does have this capability?

 

I was considering getting one to help me use a single output source (Aurender N100H) to drive two dacs, one to be a dual BNC input Chord in my listening system and the other a good headamp/dac at my desk for those times when I am sharing the study.

 

Thanks in advance

Edited by markm1111

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Double post

Edited by markm1111

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Sign in to follow this  

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...