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Two subs too much for my room? (Velodyne SPL-1000 + SPL-1200 Ultras)

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So I'm thinking about possibly getting a second sub in the future, but not sure if it'll be too much for my room? At the moment i have a Velodyne SPL-1000, but I'm thinking of also getting a SPL-1200 too. The room is about 6.7m x 3.6m x 2.5m high (I'll get new measurements tonight), there's a door that's always open smack bang in the middle of the front wall to the dining/kitchen/lounge room (large open area basically).

 

I'm also wondering if it's a bad idea at all to have different sized subwoofers? I'm guessing it'd be fine though.

 

I just got my HTS setup the other day, and my god it sounds so much better than my old one (like a $600 or something HTiB). It certainly makes for a more enjoyable and cinematic experience! 

 

Also does anyone know where I could get a remote for these Velodyne SPL-1xxx Ultras? I've contacted Velodyne about it about 2 weeks ago but haven't had any response at all. 

 

EDIT - Forgot to say it's a bedroom as well as the entertainment room I guess. It's basically divided in half, left side is bedroom, right side is where the TV, lounge, etc is if that makes a difference.

Edited by The One Demon
Added that I currently have the SPL-1000.

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just get in touch with velodyne local agent (who ever that is at the present) or work through the retailer purchased from originally. this is best. large organisations are not often setup to deal directly wiht end user/customer, usually expect that through local agent/retailer who are more setup for direct customer contact.

 

as to subs, no problem with two and no dont have to be the same. do be careful in setup as one can literally kill and neutralise the other ! also one can compound the others faults. so be very with placement. you will need also an AVR that can handle dual setups for measurement, setup and eq. however placement is key. some suggestions 

 

the harman white paper below is a good one on what tends to work in most rooms,

https://www.harman.com/sites/default/files/multsubs_0.pdf

 

so something like front back, with the large one up front and smaller up back is probably best point to start. if have an odd shaped non stereotypical room then either trial and error or measurement are best ways forward. the model up velodynes in the DD series come inbuilt with a RTA (real time analyser ) which can use to optimise one sub, two subs for placement. 

 

note this is all before EQ which then like spak filler can be used to add final touches and integrate :)

 

I dont know how this room is going to be setup, but if split in half setup (physical) of speakers and subs is going to be crucial. 

 

 

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18 minutes ago, betty boop said:

just get in touch with velodyne local agent (who ever that is at the present) or work through the retailer purchased from originally. this is best. large organisations are not often setup to deal directly wiht end user/customer, usually expect that through local agent/retailer who are more setup for direct customer contact.

 

as to subs, no problem with two and no dont have to be the same. do be careful in setup as one can literally kill and neutralise the other ! also one can compound the others faults. so be very with placement. you will need also an AVR that can handle dual setups for measurement, setup and eq. however placement is key. some suggestions 

 

the harman white paper below is a good one on what tends to work in most rooms,

https://www.harman.com/sites/default/files/multsubs_0.pdf

 

so something like front back, with the large one up front and smaller up back is probably best point to start. if have an odd shaped non stereotypical room then either trial and error or measurement are best ways forward. the model up velodynes in the DD series come inbuilt with a RTA (real time analyser ) which can use to optimise one sub, two subs for placement. 

 

note this is all before EQ which then like spak filler can be used to add final touches and integrate :)

 

I dont know how this room is going to be setup, but if split in half setup (physical) of speakers and subs is going to be crucial. 

 

 

Thanks for the info! Will check that paper tonight after work. It's a rectangular room, skinny and long. Just that because it's also a bedroom the other half is taken up lol. Should be able to put the smaller sub back left or right though most like left I think, because the right is a corner where a surround will be on a stand and there's a skinny bookshelf there too.

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the other thing to consider is how much you are looking to pay for the 12" version. the last one on stereonet i think was $900?

 

yes i would have 2 subs and yes one would be a 12", fine with the 10. but watch your spend as adelaide things can easily be overpaid for. recent sales of svs pb2000's were around the $800 mark and a pb13 ultra went for $1500. just saying do your research.

 

as for the remotes they sometimes come up on ebay for silly prices. maybe a universal remote and you can down load the settings to that.

Edited by hopefullguy

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3 hours ago, hopefullguy said:

the other thing to consider is how much you are looking to pay for the 12" version. the last one on stereonet i think was $900?

 

yes i would have 2 subs and yes one would be a 12", fine with the 10. but watch your spend as adelaide things can easily be overpaid for. recent sales of svs pb2000's were around the $800 mark and a pb13 ultra went for $1500. just saying do your research.

 

as for the remotes they sometimes come up on ebay for silly prices. maybe a universal remote and you can down load the settings to that.

Yeah I missed out on that $900 one, ended up paying $1,100 plus postage. I was more going to go for another SPL-1000 or the SPL-1200 because they should be very similar to each other and keeping it the same is just easier lol (Do these noticeably sound different like different speakers?). What would you consider a decent price for a used SPL-1200? Also what if I got a PB2000 or PB13 Ultra? would it still be fine even if you're mixing sealed and ported subs?

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You are pretty on the money that subwoofers are like speakers, so I wouldn't mix and match too much unless you want them doing completely independent loads. But that can create other issues and does require an AVR or processor that has a lot or control with dual sub output.

I'd recommend keep your eyes peeled for another SPL 1000 or 1200 second hand.

It's the easier integration method for the most balanced response

Yeah I missed out on that $900 one, ended up paying $1,100 plus postage. I was more going to go for another SPL-1000 or the SPL-1200 because they should be very similar to each other and keeping it the same is just easier lol (Do these noticeably sound different like different speakers?). What would you consider a decent price for a used SPL-1200? Also what if I got a PB2000 or PB13 Ultra? would it still be fine even if you're mixing sealed and ported subs?

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