buddyev Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, PKay said: Audionote are designed to be up against a wall. Not as dynamic as the Grahams but still a very nice sounding speaker. Not familiar with these but they look interesting for smaller rooms. Their set up recommendations are certainly worth a look http://www.audionote.co.uk/products/speakers/spkr_home_01.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKay Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 15 hours ago, Zaphod Beeblebrox said: You could easily do worse than auditioning a product from the great Brad Serhan: http://serhanswift.com/ I found his speakers were excellent but they need to be placed off the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eggcup The Daft Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 11 hours ago, adamkent said: Thanks for your comment. To add in a few information, the living room is an open living room, with wall on 3 side, one side open to kitchen and dining area. I will do a photoshop draft tomorrow and post it here. No treatment can be done to the place, apart from putting plants. I measure the Harbeth and it will be too close to the wall, or too close to the listening spot (sofa). Therefore I need a smaller size stand-mount speakers. Also you are right, aesthetics is important as my wife keep complaining about the Harbeth. I want something nice to blend in with the furniture. Will add B&W 805 to the list, I think it looks really nice... Thanks. Don't just consider smaller speakers in an open area. I'd look at Martin Logan electrostatics which can look nice, and possibly larger Sonus Faber speakers which some people like and may blend in with stuff. Bookshelf speakers with stands can still stick out like a sore thumb... What furniture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt1482 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 How about those Wilson Benesch bookshelves with down firing ports? They look awesome with the original stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddyev Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 (edited) I'd take these over Harbeth 30s — excellent speakers. Save yourself some money. Edited November 21, 2018 by buddyev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juicester Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 1 hour ago, buddyev said: Save yourself some money. begone satan. save money?! I echo thoughts from others about SGR offerings. I bought the CX3B mk2 recently within the OP's budget. Factor in that you can sell your amp too... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eggcup The Daft Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 On 21/11/2018 at 8:56 AM, buddyev said: If the Harbeth won’t fit in your new room, then the B&w 805 certainly won’t either - theyre deeper than the Harbeth and need to be in space. Same with the Dynaudio C1. I have the B&Ws and love them. They are front ported but still need a minimum of 500mm from back and side walls. I know aesthetics are important and these are, in my opinion, very nice looking speakers but I suspect they will be an expensive mistake in your circumstances. id have a close look at those Grahams Pkay mentions - they’re designed for small rooms, and they’re front ported. The Harbeth 30s are also very nice - maybe the pick of the Harbeths in smaller rooms. The only time I've heard 805 (D2 not D3) they were working fine closer to the wall than that - less than 30cm space behind! - but well away from the corners. I wouldn't write them off but thanks for info from an owner. I don't know the Grahams but I have heard the Rogers original. Very BBC, not very "modern living room". The Graham may suit a Harbeth owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddyev Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 28 minutes ago, Eggcup The Daft said: The only time I've heard 805 (D2 not D3) they were working fine closer to the wall than that - less than 30cm space behind! - but well away from the corners. I wouldn't write them off but thanks for info from an owner. I don't know the Grahams but I have heard the Rogers original. Very BBC, not very "modern living room". The Graham may suit a Harbeth owner. Yes, you're probably right - they aren't overly fussy and you can get away with being closer to the wall. Its just that they are great speakers and its a shame to compromise them too much. 1 think it's better to get something more suited to the situation. Mine are around 600 from rear and side - I find that to be about right for my room. But rooms are different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juicester Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 2 hours ago, buddyev said: Yes, you're probably right - they aren't overly fussy and you can get away with being closer to the wall. Its just that they are great speakers and its a shame to compromise them too much. 1 think it's better to get something more suited to the situation. Mine are around 600 from rear and side - I find that to be about right for my room. But rooms are different. one of the benefits of active... I can apply roll off filters or room EQ to help the speaker adapt to the room better. Possibly not important for some people; but my speakers will be in a different room every two or so years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy g Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 I agree with ihearmusic.Osborne eos elite was phenomenal at recent hi fi show. The look on peoples faces when he switched from large speakers to this tiny thing...priceless.Definetly worth an audition.Nothing of similar size ( and sadly some floorstanders) didnt compare to the beautiful sound this speaker produced on resoanbly priced gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim D Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 I see Carlton AV over on the Black Friday thread have a price list up with a few of the PMC speakers on it. Maybe a few other bookshelves you might be looking at too? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylevuong19 Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 34 minutes ago, Tim D said: I see Carlton AV over on the Black Friday thread have a price list up with a few of the PMC speakers on it. Maybe a few other bookshelves you might be looking at too? Thanks, I'll arrange some time to come down there to have a look, some has fairly good price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas_Legit Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Love the 805D3 with enough power behind them. Krix Esoterix Altum are worth auditioning, found them not as tight in the bottom end but have excellent staging 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blakey72 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 (edited) I'd say these: https://pmc-speakers.com/products/consumer/twenty5/twenty522 https://audiosolutions.net.au/product/pmc-twenty5-22-bookshelf-speakers/ Get them for $5k at: http://classaaudio.com.au/index.php?id_manufacturer=91&controller=manufacturer Or these: https://www.lenehanaudio.com.au/ml2.html I use a Plinius with my PMC's and they love it! Edited November 23, 2018 by blakey72 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mushroom01 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) Serenade, is one speaker that comes to mind, especially when room boundaries are an issue. It seems to have been designed with this in mind. On paper, seems to have good bass response. May or may not require a Subwoofer. http://www.hulgichaudio.com.au/serenade.html https://www.stereo.net.au/reviews/review-hulgich-audio-serenade-loudspeakers Edited December 3, 2018 by Mushroom01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittaku Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Have a look at this nice list: http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/2019-high-end-audio-buyers-guide-stand-mounted-loudspeakers-under-10000/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximus Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Dynaudio Special 40's, and under 5k as well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Katz Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 The Marten Duke ll’s is a great speaker. It will do everything your trying to accomplish. Especially the WAF! Here’s a photo to help with your decision! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juicester Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 20 hours ago, Analysis said: The Marten Duke ll’s is a great speaker. It will do everything your trying to accomplish. Especially the WAF! Here’s a photo to help with your decision! agreed; great speaker. but then save up big $$ to put Vitus on the end of it.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_mike Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 A little difficult to find, look for a pair of old Duntech Barons. They are floorstanders, but with a small footprint. Back them up to a wall and they still don't mind. The sock cover makes them look like a soft furnishing, a curtain hung behind your gear and between the speakers will all but make them disappear. You should be able to pick up a pair under $2500, and you would have to spend $10K new to outdo them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juicester Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 4 hours ago, t_mike said: A little difficult to find, look for a pair of old Duntech Barons. They are floorstanders, but with a small footprint. Back them up to a wall and they still don't mind. The sock cover makes them look like a soft furnishing, a curtain hung behind your gear and between the speakers will all but make them disappear. You should be able to pick up a pair under $2500, and you would have to spend $10K new to outdo them. including floorstanders opens a can of worms. I sold some Marten Miles 3 for a touch under $6k recently and think you couldn't really beat that in terms of price/perf. Stop breaking the rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylevuong19 Posted December 3, 2018 Author Share Posted December 3, 2018 On 02/12/2018 at 12:42 PM, Analysis said: The Marten Duke ll’s is a great speaker. It will do everything your trying to accomplish. Especially the WAF! Here’s a photo to help with your decision! Very nice indeed... if you ever want to change your speakers, please let me know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Katz Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 agreed; great speaker. but then save up big $$ to put Vitus on the end of it.... [emoji14]I did just that! [emoji106] 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juicester Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Analysis said: I did just that! Next step; get those speakers on stands. Not doing them justice like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steam Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Raidho X series. Hard to find but that tweeter is amazing. Could be great for your requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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