joz Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 8 hours ago, jakeyb77 said: Yeah you need to stop giving that out for free @joz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synodontis Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 I could be tempted to pay someone for in home room correction, component placement & general improvement advice that could be made with existing gear. I wouldn't pay someone for advice on physical component selection. I prefer to research myself & find what sounds best to me. Wouldn't it just be easier to host a Stereonet GTG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylevuong19 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 After a few times changing gears I realise I could have saved some money if I took some advice earlier. So yeah I'm happy to pay for an advice on hifi before buying something, but it has to be from someone that I trust. Someone is familiar with my gears, my taste of music, my lifestyle...etc... Another case is I'm happy to pay for a acoustic specialist to help with room treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthpete Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 I could be tempted to pay someone for in home room correction, component placement & general improvement advice that could be made with existing gear. I wouldn't pay someone for advice on physical component selection. I prefer to research myself & find what sounds best to me. Wouldn't it just be easier to host a Stereonet GTG?Yeah, I think some GTGs would work well. Absolutely true what is said too about listening experience being very personal. Particular challenge in some places (lets say Perth to name ‘my place’ [emoji16]) is that there are not very many places to go and have a listen to various different hifi level speakers for example. While west coast hifi is doing (i think only somewhat recently) is having various high level (aka expensive) speakers available for listening, however each shop has the one brand. So quite tough to go out and listen to different brands given having to drive to different shops all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eltech Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 On 18/11/2018 at 6:13 PM, blakey72 said: would you be willing to pay for it? This concept shouldn't seem foreign. There are plenty of audio consultants and system designers who mostly work in the professional audio industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blakey72 Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, eltech said: This concept shouldn't seem foreign. There are plenty of audio consultants and system designers who mostly work in the professional audio industry. True. However under that there's nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eltech Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Just now, blakey72 said: True. However under that there's nothing. Not exactly true. I know a few of those companies do home designs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blakey72 Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 1 minute ago, eltech said: Not exactly true. I know a few of those companies do home designs. Do they sell the equipment though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eltech Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, blakey72 said: Do they sell the equipment though? Integration companies have accounts with many suppliers which means they sell and install the equipment. They don't keep it in stock. They buy it as required Edited November 23, 2018 by eltech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blakey72 Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 Yeah. A bit different to what we've in mind. Good to know though. I'll have to do some more research. Thanks mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eltech Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 (edited) I don't think too much advice is required when just buying an amp and speakers and source. It only gets more complex when you want remote control of everything and multi room audio, or you want something installed into the walls, or you want something custom made, or something truely amazeballs. And custom design takes thought, and time and expense. And the client is definitely expecting top shelf professional results, that deliver and exceed expectations. Edited November 23, 2018 by eltech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzr Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 On 19/11/2018 at 1:40 PM, davewantsmoore said: No.... but I would pay for the work to implement me a system which had a specific performance benchmark. Noting that audio reproduction has parallels to golf. You can buy a set of $50,000 golf clubs, and it doesn't necessarily get you good golf performance ....... the basics, ie. how you hold and swing the club, and where you choose to aim the ball - matter so much more than what the club is made from, or what specific shape it is (within reason), or what dimple pattern is on your golf ball. Tiger Woods is going to beat me handily around the golf course if he were using half a set of random old tired clubs from the op-shop. Had a scotch with Tiger once.... As for the the OP,....You are asking about something from a bygone era that few here still have. That is a brick & mortar store where the owner is an avid audiophile himself, thats why he got into this mess in the first place. He then starts to gather a clientèle over the years & then starts to upgrade his available products to a few tiers higher in the killing chain... "but", along the way he does develop a relationship & knowledge about his clients/customers & he has an informed guess/opinion about their expectations/likes/tastes & will proceed to deliver to them what they want,... "unless", here's the part you're really asking about but no-ones coming up with the one for all answer here.... "he" knows you won't like it!! I have had this many times happen to me when I have been told don't do it, you'll be disappointed, guess what? 9 out of 10, they were right because they know my preferences, they have experienced first hand my ability & experience in audio & have an educated guess on what I expect. In the audio industry I know of 2 people that I deal with & when it comes to selling me gear, I trust them. Sometimes they actually have advised me to not go for the top model.... go figure huh, but then again I have laid some serious homage to their shrine/bank account. Seriously, I wouldn't go near something like this & quite frankly I think it is bull sharks attacking bathers mentality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
075Congo Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 If there was such a thing as a High Fi Advisory company or group or whatever I would certainly use it for up-front advice. What could they offer? Advice on priorities for your investment ? When I consider how much money I have wasted along the way to now an early education program/ counselling session would have been great! Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hifigeek Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 I know excactly what you mean regarding wasting money... I have learnt to justify it though as part of the hobby / journey, I mean it would get pretty boring if we got everything right first time! I also agree with a much earlier statement that people generally advise only on what they use / sell and know. It seems to me that getting multible viewpoints in order to draw your own opinion is the best way. The problem I have always found is not being able to get all of the equipment you might wish to audition together in the same room. The only place where lots of brand come together under one roof is during hifi shows, maybe more could be done in this environment? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jakeyb77 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 24 minutes ago, 075Congo said: If there was such a thing as a High Fi Advisory company or group or whatever I would certainly use it for up-front advice. What could they offer? Advice on priorities for your investment ? When I consider how much money I have wasted along the way to now an early education program/ counselling session would have been great! Cheers I find that Hi-Fi is luckily one of the hobbies where there is a great base to rotate gear based on personal preference. Buy something from the classifieds.. try it. If it works for you then keep it. If not list for the same price or contact the other interest parties you beat to the punch.No money wasted and curiosity sated also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloper Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Goodaye all There is someone already available for a lot of advice, a acoustic engineer. Can set up your room and advise on where to put equipment. Next be is tricky, advise on specific gear. So someone who knows the industry and brands, audio output and prices. Hang about sounds like a experienced salesman. So now you have paid you big $$$$ advice from a acoustic engineer and set up your room. Paid big $$$$ for advice for the "right gear". You turn it on and it doesnt sound right to you. But your advised it sounds magnificent. regards Bruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
075Congo Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Going back down memory lane my introduction to the world of HiFi was meeting the owner of an Audio Outlet; a real "blank page"! Immediately my options were limited to the brands carried by the store and the skills of the retailer in directing my purchases. Would a preliminary experience/ education have helped? You bet! Meeting an advisor/ reading material / not being hasty would have enhanced the experience. What type of advisory group? Maybe a group of members of a Hi Fi Club/Association; Fees ? Some going to charity /some for preparation/ printing /admin? My golf club is setting up an advisory panel on top of the Committee to give expert advice on things like club finances. Anyway Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joz Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 But do real audiophiles actually want advice? Many it would seem are very selective about opinions already. It seems the way most turn over gear that nothing would satisfy them long term anyhow. Then the poor uninformed noob may get sold anything that makes the most money. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocky500 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, joz said: But do real audiophiles actually want advice? Many it would seem are very selective about opinions already. It seems the way most turn over gear that nothing would satisfy them long term anyhow. I don't think many know what they really like until they hear it themselves. For me it was a continuous upgrading to realize what works for me in my own place. I would never of known without trying lots & lots of equipment. Also I found I needed to live with something over time to see if my impressions changed at all. Then hone it it with slight changes, tweaks etc. As others have mentioned, these classifieds made it a lot easier. Edited February 13, 2019 by rocky500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warweary Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 No I wouldn't want to employ some one else to pick my hifi, in fact I'd like to be employed to pick other peoples hifi, audio visual and pc. Love that stuff, love reading about it and making it work. Don't reckon anyone ever will though. pm me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Muon N' Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Meh...I likely wouldn't, as personal preferences vary from person to person, we hear different to each other and have different expectations. BTW, everyone here is an Audiophile, regardless whether they think it or not. If you were not you wouldn't be here. But then again, if you don't give a hoot about the quality of the reproduction or mastering, then you are not an Audiophile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barn door Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 BTW, everyone here is an Audiophile, regardless whether they think it or not. If you were not you wouldn't be here. The fact that I’m on here after midnight reading makes me worried I’ve gotten into this hobby just a little too enthusiastically [emoji15] 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Muon N' Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, barn door said: The fact that I’m on here after midnight reading makes me worried I’ve gotten into this hobby just a little too enthusiastically As do a lot of us Around here this is called normal. Edited February 13, 2019 by Muon N' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
075Congo Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Its 5.00 am and I'm getting ready to drive 3 hours to look at a set of speaker stands the price of which is instant divorce material. Would you employ me as a Hi Fi Consultant? Not likely! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cafad Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, 075Congo said: Its 5.00 am and I'm getting ready to drive 3 hours to look at a set of speaker stands the price of which is instant divorce material. Would you employ me as a Hi Fi Consultant? Not likely! Perhaps you could assist in a WAF advisory capacity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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