Volunteer sir sanders zingmore Posted October 21, 2018 Volunteer Share Posted October 21, 2018 Are those stacore things active somehow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pass the bass Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 7 hours ago, Willco said: I'd be interested in anyones report on the Aries Cerat room Willco The upper-bass sounded boxy, like someone playing a cajon by slapping against a box. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yamaha_man Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 3 hours ago, Tony M said: I guess anyone that knows me will understand I loved the sound in this room. Yes, it would've been nicer with better speaker stands and some valves, but it was dynamic, alive and thoroughly enjoyable anyway, especially since all the equipment was about 40 years old: Seems like they have the left hand speaker on the right hand side. I’ve had several sets of these and always had the left and right speaker where they should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pass the bass Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 10 minutes ago, Sir Sanders Zingmore said: Are those stacore things active somehow? There are multiple compressed gas cylinders underneath, and control switches on the front - which I presume would make them 'active'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willco Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 5 hours ago, carl888 said: It was the first thing I listened to when I arrived and I thank the gentleman demonstrating it for not playing it at 110db with some gut wrenching bass. Amazing dynamics, front to back depth and scaling of instruments within the soundstage. I found it very forward in the midrange and coloured with female voice so it was not to my taste (I'm using stacked Quads) but I can really get the appeal. Hifi is largely subjective, you might love it. Thanks for the comments Carl--interesting to hear/read the varying observations-- I have friends overseas with the full house AC's and they rave /etc/etc Incidentally you mentioned stacked Quads-- They aren't my old ones by any chance ?-- one curved panel designed with two speakers ea' --Oh the plate on the back stating "The Radio People Hkg". Great speakers Willco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer sir sanders zingmore Posted October 21, 2018 Volunteer Share Posted October 21, 2018 13 minutes ago, pass the bass said: There are multiple compressed gas cylinders underneath, and control switches on the front - which I presume would make them 'active'. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonsynchro Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 On 16/10/2018 at 7:50 AM, Kaynin said: hi-show'd hi-showed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonsynchro Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 8 hours ago, Rocketfrogs said: of have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonsynchro Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 8 hours ago, Sir Sanders Zingmore said: really real Damnyouautocorrect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonsynchro Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 You too @Luc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer sir sanders zingmore Posted October 21, 2018 Volunteer Share Posted October 21, 2018 Having fun @nonsynchro? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl888 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 56 minutes ago, Willco said: Thanks for the comments Carl--interesting to hear/read the varying observations-- I have friends overseas with the full house AC's and they rave /etc/etc Incidentally you mentioned stacked Quads-- They aren't my old ones by any chance ?-- one curved panel designed with two speakers ea' --Oh the plate on the back stating "The Radio People Hkg". Great speakers Willco Interesting. I've never heard any owner claim their 6 figure audio system was rubbish Re: Quads, no, I made the frames myself many years back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pass the bass Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Notable systems at the 2018 Como show (in no particular order): Audio Note & Takatsuki The music, as usual, is eclectic, relaxed and played at a reasonable volume. Why do many exhibitors play it too loud? Interesting sight seeing aged males lose self-control around glass tubes. Synergy Audio Visual Audio Research CD9 source/Ref 6 pre/Reference 160M monos, Sonus Faber Amati speakers. Tube sound, with heft. Interesting discussion about the sound of earlier CD releases and digital recordings, and the merits of 16-bit redbook recordings/mastering done right. Reference Audio Visual Esoteric Grandiso K1 source, Esoteric Grandiso F1 (30wpc class A integrated amp), EgglestonWorks Viginti speakers. Good example of class A solid-state sound. The modest power output belying its big, deep, well-damped sound - and without the usual transistor "grit". The speakers were not wife-friendly, but they had a synergy with the amplifier. Magenta Audio & Halcro PS Audio disc/dac, Halcro (Eclipse?) amp, Davone speakers Good selection of mainly jazz tracks, varied in styles and well recorded. I felt the amplifier may have been held back by the speakers. Groove Works AMG turntable, Ayon disc, Tidal Audio dac/pre, Einstein pwr, Tidal Audio Contriva G2 speakers The speakers were positioned nearly half-way into the middle of the room, which probably accounted for unusually deep staging. Very effective A-B-A demonstration of enhancements by using Telos Audio active grounding box and Telos Audio resonator conditioners (solid metal pieces lifting speaker cables off the ground). I heard the most convincing sound of Muddy Waters - Folk Singer played on vinyl. Carlton Audio Visual Yamaha C-5000 pre/M-5000 pwr/NS-5000 speakers Powerful sound. The speakers' dark piano-gloss sitting atop architectural stands are irresistible eye-candy. The treble, like those of the B&W 800 D3, could be too revealing. Which is the best system? Who is the most beautiful woman? I like them all. Thanks to the above exhibitors for giving me the opportunity to hear my music through their system. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony M Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 2 hours ago, yamaha_man said: Seems like they have the left hand speaker on the right hand side. I’ve had several sets of these and always had the left and right speaker where they should be. Yeah, you're right - a sharp observation that I totally missed. The tweets/mids are traditionally placed on the outside. However, FWIW, in studios the speakers were more often placed horizontally on stands close to a wall. And I have 3 pairs - the pair in the living room are both right sided so there's no way I can get those right (or wrong) and the ones in the shed are twinned/stacked together on stands - so it doesn't count there either. Crappy pic, but good enough to show what I'm on about: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krebetman Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 The most enjoyable room for me was the Sound Gallery setup with Magico A -series speakers and Solution amplification. Source was (I think) a Brinkmann TT with a DS-Audio optical cartridge. Anyone interested in a slightly used kidney? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musician Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 18 hours ago, carl888 said: A few more. Any comments on the sound of the floating platter turntable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl888 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 8 minutes ago, Musician said: Any comments on the sound of the floating platter turntable? Not sure, I'd need to do a comparison in my own system. The system as a whole sounded fine to me. But I'm a sucker for BBC heritage products (Harbeth). There are just sooooooo many variables in a hotel room (which personally I detest). Unfamiliar equipment, room, lots of ambient noise, people walking around, distractions etc. I know I haven't answered your question however I'm just not qualified to do so. Maybe you could organise a demo, the seller seemed very approachable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Misterioso Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 The Harbeth speakers (SHL5+ 40th anniversary, if I am not wrong) were my personal highlight. They just sound natural (and very similar to the speakers I have). I thought the digital source (don't know which) in that room sounded better than the Maglev turntable. I didn't like the platter wobble and the sound of Kind of Blue was worse than I am used to. Given my preference for active speakers, I was looking forward to the ATC room. I was lucky, active SCM19A were presented. I think some Beethoven piano sonatas were playing when I was in the room. I was not too convinced of the piano sound but can't say if it was the recording or the system. The big Tidal speakers were stunning but I don't want to know their price tag. Some products were announced before the show (Genelec speakers, Prism dacs) but I could not find them anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Misterioso Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 And how could I forget this: there was WAY too much (loud) talking in about any room on Saturday afternoon. Very annoying. And almost all questions can be easily answered from a quick look at the technical specs. No need to impress the exhibitors with your hifi knowledge, just listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittaku Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Though I didn't go to this particular show, my biggest complaint is walking into a room and there not being music on! Even if the exhibitor has something to say, or answer questions, or whatever, there should be almost no down time with playing music, even if it's just at a low volume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian McP Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 top sounding systems? Aries Cerat horn system (www.purasound.com) Audio Note Weiss/Soulution/Magico (www.soundgallery.com.au) Bricasti Design Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass13 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 IMO ...there were many great sounding systems...some better than others, depends on what type of sound you like to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 (edited) That Aries Cerat room was way too loud when I visited unfortunately. I thought the ATC actives were a stand out, went back many times to have a listen. The old model Yamaha NS 1000's were great too. I enjoyed the Magico's the most out of the more high end HiFi speakers. Edited October 22, 2018 by Jonny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gat474 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 25 minutes ago, Jonny said: That Aries Cerat room was way too loud when I visited unfortunately. I thought the ATC actives were a stand out, went back many times to have a listen. The old model Yamaha NS 1000's were great too. I enjoyed the Magico's the most out of the more high end HiFi speakers. @Jonny which atc actives were they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 10 minutes ago, gat474 said: @Jonny which atc actives were they? The SCM19A. They were placed close together in a far from ideal room but still very enjoyable. Has sparked some considerable interest in the brand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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