rodders3 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Need some help guys. Spent three wonderful days at the hifi show enjoying the great speakers on display. Made me aware of just how important setup is and gave me cause to realise that my speakers sitting on the carpet are not the optimal solution and I should use the spikes that came with the speakers. Only problem is that I have had the speakers for over ten years and I have no idea where the spikes and set up case is. I have looked on the net for a replacement but no good. I am now looking at aftermarket spikes however the size i cannot work out. Seems to refer to M6 or M8. Anybody have an idea how I could work out size other than costly mistakes? Cheers, Rod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakabatou Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Go to Bunnings and buy a single M6 and M8 bolt and see what fits. You could return them after, if so inclined 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders3 Posted October 17, 2018 Author Share Posted October 17, 2018 Thanks @sakabatou. Very good idea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thathifiguy Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 No spikes available from either M&G Hoskins or Interdyn as spares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blybo Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, rodders3 said: Thanks @sakabatou. Very good idea. Did you visit the isoaucoustic demo? Enlightening, but may not be worth the expense depending on speaker type/value. Spikes are a cheap and easy option but they will not isolate speakers, they couple them to the floor. Is your floor under the carpet slab or floorboards? Spikes will be an improvement regardless but will work better on a slab which doesn't vibrate much anyway. Edited October 17, 2018 by blybo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders3 Posted October 17, 2018 Author Share Posted October 17, 2018 43 minutes ago, thathifiguy said: No spikes available from either M&G Hoskins or Interdyn as spares? Actually spoke to them before (the sydney mob), as I lost one of the metal jumpers and they sent me another. Was good service but thought the speakers so old they probably wont carry them. 45 minutes ago, blybo said: Did you visit the isoaucoustic demo? Enlightening, but may not be worth the expense depending on speaker type/value. Spikes are a cheap and easy option but they will not isolate speakers, they couple them to the floor. Is your floor under the carpet slab or floorboards? Spikes will be an improvement regardless but will work better on a slab which doesn't vibrate much anyway. I am very happy with my speakers and they seem to hold up well against modern speakers IMO. I remember they were the flagship model and cost around $5-6K in 2007. I would definitely invest in some isolation and did see the isoaucoustic demo. I researched that already but the cost to do it properly really gets up there. It is floorboards under and I am happy to go the cheap route to see if it helps. Thanks for the suggestions though guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blybo Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) 37 minutes ago, rodders3 said: Actually spoke to them before (the sydney mob), as I lost one of the metal jumpers and they sent me another. Was good service but thought the speakers so old they probably wont carry them. I am very happy with my speakers and they seem to hold up well against modern speakers IMO. I remember they were the flagship model and cost around $5-6K in 2007. I would definitely invest in some isolation and did see the isoaucoustic demo. I researched that already but the cost to do it properly really gets up there. It is floorboards under and I am happy to go the cheap route to see if it helps. Thanks for the suggestions though guys. Cheaper option than isoacoustics is Herbies https://herbiesaudiolab.com/collections/loudspeaker-rack-decoupling-and-isolation/products/superior-decoupling-spike I'm actually going to get 3 of these to go under my TT's spikes https://herbiesaudiolab.com/collections/component-isolation/products/herbies-hush-puckies?variant=12645106122807 Edited October 17, 2018 by blybo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders3 Posted October 17, 2018 Author Share Posted October 17, 2018 Looks interesting @blybo. Will have a good look tonight. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whites Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 @rodders3 I have just replaced my herbies cone/spike decoupling glider with the Isoacoustic Gaia 2 under my speakers. In my situation there is no comparison, the Gaia were a massive improvement. The herbies cone/spike decoupling glider are awesome for sliding speakers around on wood floors to fine tune their position. I haven't tried the herbies hush puckies, they look interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders3 Posted October 17, 2018 Author Share Posted October 17, 2018 3 hours ago, Whites said: @rodders3 I have just replaced my herbies cone/spike decoupling glider with the Isoacoustic Gaia 2 under my speakers. In my situation there is no comparison, the Gaia were a massive improvement. The herbies cone/spike decoupling glider are awesome for sliding speakers around on wood floors to fine tune their position. I haven't tried the herbies hush puckies, they look interesting. Damn it...... now I'm thinking blow it, get the Iso's. All up it will cost $1050 without negotiating. Very tempting. The Herbies are going to be just under $400 with the insane postage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whites Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 @rodders3 Sorry about that, but I had to let you know. Like @blybo mentioned the Isoacoustic demonstration was impressive. They had two sets of identical speakers, one on normal spikes and one on the Gaia. All they did was swap between them on the same track, there was no gimmicks. The Isoacoustic rep had flown in from Canada and was a down to earth guy, answered a couple of questions without any sales talk beat-up. Prior to the show I had been thinking about buying them as another SNA member had recommended them. I kept procrastinating because of the price, but after the demo I actually bought then on the spot. Best improvement to my system other than an equipment upgrade. Please keep in mind I have an old house with a wood floor that has a bit of spring in it and I suspect prone to vibration, hence I probably get the maximum benefit from the Gaia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irek Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 I am using isoacoustics, they are worth every penny. The type/price depends of the speaker's weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blybo Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, rodders3 said: Damn it...... now I'm thinking blow it, get the Iso's. All up it will cost $1050 without negotiating. Very tempting. The Herbies are going to be just under $400 with the insane postage. Nah, you need Gaia III's, which you can pick up for $600 (2 sets of 4). Your GS60's weigh 27.1kg, the Gaia III's work on speakers up to 32kg's each. Edited October 17, 2018 by blybo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders3 Posted October 18, 2018 Author Share Posted October 18, 2018 Well I did a bit of shopping around an I have ended up with the GAIA II's. My pricing above was based on III's from Selby HIFI. Also thought about carpet spikes and that all came up to $1050. Ditched the carpet spikes as complete rip off for what it is and rang Melbourne HIFI who didn't have III's but did have II's. All up $730. Got day at home so eager as all get out straight to my speakers and undo everything. Disaster - the bloody threads are too big on MA's. AAAGH!!!!. Thinking of ways to shim or buy something so screws from GAIA fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irek Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) Feel free to email isoacoustics directly, they should give you the best solution. Edited October 18, 2018 by Irek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundbyte Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 A set of simple DIY spikes would be a cheap method to make some comparisons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders3 Posted October 18, 2018 Author Share Posted October 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, Irek said: Feel free to email isoacoustics directly, they should give you the best solution. Thanks mate. Did that already. Looks to me I need M10 or M12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Thanks mate. Did that already. Looks to me I need M10 or M12. Measure the hole, you'll be able to tell if its 10 or 12mm. Best bet from there is to see if Melb hifi will exchange for the correct size (provided it's available). Failing that, something like these thread reducers/enlargers will do the job. I don't know of a source but a decent outlet like United Fasteners or similar will be able to help 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders3 Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Grizzly said: Measure the hole, you'll be able to tell if its 10 or 12mm. Best bet from there is to see if Melb hifi will exchange for the correct size (provided it's available). Failing that, something like these thread reducers/enlargers will do the job. I don't know of a source but a decent outlet like United Fasteners or similar will be able to help Cheers Grizzly. Saw those yesterday as well - called heli something. I have managed to find the best, although costly, solution. Found the importer of Isoacoustics is a company called Conroy in Sydney. Sent them an email and then rang them after they replied. Seems the problem is that Monitor Audiio use M10 threads. IsoA supply M8, M6 and 1/4. M12 is supplied with Gaia I. IsoA however do make bespoke threads at M10 for MA. Cost $72 for 8 little threads but without them I have a world of pain. Any other MA users out there be aware you are up for more cost. Maybe the new MA speakers may fit but when I rang the guy said there was a note on his system for MA so may apply across the board. It will cost you more! Edited October 19, 2018 by rodders3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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