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Hi guys.  I am looking for a high quality power board with USA outlets but with a Australian plug into the wall. Any ideas on where I can get this? I definitely do not want any filtering in the power board. Just a plain one.

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Consonance make a filtered and unfiltered that accepts all plugs

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I don't know why you would want to do such a thing.

 

* US plugs and sockets are designed for 117VAC, NOT 230VAC.

* US power plugs are not safe for Australian conditions (you could be sued).

* Change your power cables for Australian approved ones, or have your tradie swap the plugs for the (far superior) Australian ones.

* Use a high quality 230VAC rated Elsafe power board and you're good to go. 

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Thanks [mention=141213]Bunno77[/mention] . Consonance looks like the answer despite the hefty price tag.
 
[mention=106387]Zaphod Beeblebrox[/mention] who do you think would sue me?
No worries though as Zaph said I wouldn't be using US cables/plugs as they aren't rated/certified to our voltage.
The consonance will let you use other regions 240v 'audiophile' power cables though

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1 minute ago, Bunno77 said:

No worries though as Zaph said I wouldn't be using US cables/plugs as they aren't rated/certified to our voltage.
The consonance will let you use other regions 240v 'audiophile' power cables though
 

Thanks. What's the risk here. We have lower current coming out of our walls than the USA. Their power cords must be more robust than ours.

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Safer but still not legal. 

 

Voltage and fire which won't be covered by your insurance. 

 

They may use different materials but if they aren't rated to our voltage it could burn your house down. 

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1 hour ago, amdan said:

Thanks @Bunno77 . Consonance looks like the answer despite the hefty price tag.

 

@Zaphod Beeblebrox who do you think would sue me?

 

57 minutes ago, Bunno77 said:

Safer but still not legal. 

 

Voltage and fire which won't be covered by your insurance. 

 

They may use different materials but if they aren't rated to our voltage it could burn your house down. 

 

@amdan ... Bunno has it right.  Your insurance co. will be able to wipe their hands of you, if you happened to have a fire - even tho the fire wasn't caused by your US power cords/power board.

 

So one has to ask ... why would you bother to risk this?

 

Andy

 

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5 minutes ago, andyr said:

 

 

@amdan ... Bunno has it right.  Your insurance co. will be able to wipe their hands of you, if you happened to have a fire - even tho the fire wasn't caused by your US power cords/power board.

 

So one has to ask ... why would you bother to risk this?

 

Andy

 

Audio connection in Leichhardt burnt out due to a faulty Loewe tv. The place was full of US style plugs and power boards. They had the first cheque for $800000 that afternoon. I have never known an insurance claim rejected for using US style plugs, I don't know where you get your beliefs from but keep on believing it.

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8 hours ago, guru said:

Audio connection in Leichhardt burnt out due to a faulty Loewe tv. The place was full of US style plugs and power boards. They had the first cheque for $800000 that afternoon. I have never known an insurance claim rejected for using US style plugs, I don't know where you get your beliefs from but keep on believing it.

 

Glad to hear that, g.  (That a payment was made promptly, not that the shop was burnt down.)

 

From previous experience, dealing with an insurance co. after a bushfire, I understand that an insurance co. will work very hard not to have to pay out.  That's why I assumed they would take the opportunity of refusing a claim on the grounds of there being illegal power cords in the house.  Then again, the particular insurance co. that I had to deal with ... is no longer with us - maybe it was just them that had this attitude?

 

Andy

 

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11 hours ago, amdan said:

Thanks @Bunno77 . Consonance looks like the answer despite the hefty price tag.

 

@Zaphod Beeblebrox who do you think would sue me?

Perhaps a visitor, who had a child that stuck their finger in between the pins of the US power plug. Those things are not allowed in Australia. For good reason. They're junk. Australia builds the best, safest mains power stuff on the planet.

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10 hours ago, amdan said:

Thanks. What's the risk here. We have lower current coming out of our walls than the USA. Their power cords must be more robust than ours.

Australian mains power is vastly superior to US mains power (for the most part). A typical Australian power point and plug is rated at 10 Amps. That's 2,300 Watts. That, however, only tells part of the story. Usually, that power point is connected to a 20 Amp breaker at the fuse box and is connected via 2.5mm CSA wire. You can ask your sparky to install 15 Amp sockets and plugs. These are far superior to anything available anywhere. Make certain you specify HPM or Elsafe ones. Then you can use a 32 Amp breaker. In the US, a mains power point is rated to deliver a meagre 1,500 Watts. And that is the ABSOLUTE maximum. 

 

Lastly: There is no difference between mains power cables (size-wise), once you are using 1.5mm CSA or more, when using ANY reasonable domestic appliance. You've been sucked in by advertising. Good ole' Aussie plugs and sockets are fine. They work and they work very well. They're safe and there has never been any credible, double blind test, performed at any time to prove that any differences can be detected.

 

Not once. Not ever. 

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9 hours ago, guru said:

Audio connection in Leichhardt burnt out due to a faulty Loewe tv. The place was full of US style plugs and power boards. They had the first cheque for $800000 that afternoon. I have never known an insurance claim rejected for using US style plugs, I don't know where you get your beliefs from but keep on believing it.

I dunno where you get your beliefs from, but I've had the (unfortunate) opportunity to deal with insurance companies on a few occasions. They will use ANY method they can to not pay out on a claim. Perhaps, if I had (like the owner of TAC) several properties, a bunch of vehicles and other assorted things, insured with the same company, then I might have been able to apply pressure. However, like most people, I don't. 

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28 minutes ago, Zaphod Beeblebrox said:

Perhaps, if I had (like the owner of TAC) several properties, a bunch of vehicles and other assorted things, insured with the same company, then I might have been able to apply pressure.

 

I would suspect something like this.  In working with insurance companies for 20 years, plus claims on a personal level, I've never known an insurance company to pay out that afternoon, especially $800,000.

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8 minutes ago, Kaynin said:

 

I would suspect something like this.  In working with insurance companies for 20 years, plus claims on a personal level, I've never known an insurance company to pay out that afternoon, especially $800,000.

I could tell you why they paid the first of numerous amounts so quickly and it had nothing to do with pressure exerted as Trevor alluded too. Leased premises, no ownership, some scrappy old Toyota hi ace vehicles, etc but best you keep on suspecting what you want.

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