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Am I using the right speaker cables? Just not hearing enough bass

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I am seeking some advice.

My system just does not sound like it has enough bass.

I am using:

Speakers Kef 207/2 

Pre amp: Gat Conrad Johnson

Amplifier: Conrad Johnson 350SA

Phono: Conrad Johnson TEA2 MAXHG

Turntable: Kuzma with EMT JSD P6 cartridge, turntable arm Kuzma point 4, 9'

Interconnects: Harmonic Technology Magic Link III

Power cables: Nordost red dawn on phono amp
                        Analysis Plus Pro power oval on Gat CJ
                        Analysis plus pro power oval on turntable power ac source (kumza)
                        CJ amp original cable 20 amp

Speaker cables: Nordost Frey 2 - 4 meters.


How do I get my system to sound a bit more bassier

Thanks

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A sub or two......

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 This is what the kefs look like. image.jpeg.8a79ae8ae3873880a4ff89e8ce901a34.jpeg So should have enough speak to create heeps of bass.  I don't think a sub would be the answer.

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Sorry for the dumb question, but what resistive loading to you have your phono stage set to?

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14 minutes ago, Jake123 said:

How do I get my system to sound a bit more bassier

Chose one or more of these:

 

Move the speaker

Move the listener

Apply EQ to the signal

Add a subwoofer

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Just now, Sir Sanders Zingmore said:

Check that you haven’t wired the speakers out of phase (I’ve done that :) ) 

Oh yeah!   ^^^^

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To follow-up on what Dave has suggested, I will offer a couple more:

 

* Double, DOUBLE check your speaker wiring. Ensure that positive to positive and negative to negative conventions are followed, CAREFULLY.

* Try a digital source, with a known bass performance.

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1 minute ago, Jake123 said:

200 

That sounds about right for your cart. Must be something else.

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Just now, Jake123 said:

So + to - and - to +

To begin with, just make sure that each speaker is wired the same as the other speaker.

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I did this because from my reading of the CJ lit, it suggests that you swop them around because of the phase inversion

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1 minute ago, Zaphod Beeblebrox said:

* Try a digital source, with a known bass performance.

Oh yeah!  ^^^^   :D 

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Okay will re wire, + to + and - to - and see how that goes

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Thanks guys, will see how that works and will report back. 

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Just now, Jake123 said:

Yep both wired the same way

Cool, then need to (first, I would) check that your turntable isn't eating all the bass  (just try some cheap and easy source, like your phone or whatever) .... and if that's not it, then trial my suggestions.

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1 minute ago, Jake123 said:

Okay will re wire, + to + and - to - and see how that goes

Yep, do that .... but the issue they thought it would be is to do with one speaker being different to the other.

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Just now, Jake123 said:

Yep both wired the same way

Are you absolutely certain?

 

Here's something else you can try to confirm.

 

Find a good DIGITAL recording of a single vocalist. Sit in the centre of the two speakers and listen. Close your eyes. The voice should appear from a single point, roughly in the centre. If the sound is diffuse and the voice appears to come from a wide area, then your speakers are wired incorrectly. 

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