tubularbells Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Flipping through a few records today I noticed an unusually large gap in one of the racks. Turns out the shrink wrap on one had recently gone bad and as a consequence had severely bowed the outer sleeve. Thankfully as I store my records outside the jacket it was not warped but who knows what would have happened if I had stored it inside (another reason why I do this) so beware as I know it is the fashionable thing to keep the shrink wrap intact especially these days as they usually also have a hype sticker or two on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satanica Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 A very good band and album. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockpig Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Shrink wrap sucks and instead new records should be packed in loose baggies. I always remove shrink wrap, but if there is a hype sticker or even a barcode sticker on the shrink wrap I save it and stick it inside the jacket for future reference. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full Range Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Devils advocate If you left the record inside it would be stiffer as a complete package and weaker just as thin cardboard However shrink wrap and other non stable plastics do suck in that they can emit vapour and etch the record surface over a protracted time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubularbells Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Full Range said: Devils advocate If you left the record inside it would be stiffer as a complete package and weaker just as thin cardboard However shrink wrap and other non stable plastics do suck in that they can emit vapour and etch the record surface over a protracted time True however there would still be under unnecessary pressure caused by the shrink so why take the risk? I admit that in the past 6 months or so ive been keeping the shrink on but will revert back to my old habits which is to remove the plastic and cut out any hype stickers placing them in the sleeve @rockpig style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Misterioso Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Tubularbells said: and cut out any hype stickers placing them in the sleeve @rockpig style. Just curious, what for? Resale value? Information provided on these stickers? I always throw away the shrink wrap including all stickers (but I do use outer sleeves). I also throw away all advertisement material coming with the record. Am I doing something wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eggcup The Daft Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Full Range said: Devils advocate If you left the record inside it would be stiffer as a complete package and weaker just as thin cardboard However shrink wrap and other non stable plastics do suck in that they can emit vapour and etch the record surface over a protracted time In my vinyl years I bought from two stores that sold old stock records, some of which had been shrink wrapped for up to ten years without this problem, or at most just bent the corners because it could move the card but not the disc. If that's not a poly lined inner sleeve, I'd be more worried about the label being in direct contact with the shrink wrap. I had a label stick to shrink wrap with resulting damage once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiofeline Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 11 minutes ago, Plattenspieler said: Just curious, what for [saving hype stickers on album shrinkwrap]? Resale value? Information provided on these stickers? I always throw away the shrink wrap including all stickers (but I do use outer sleeves). I also throw away all advertisement material coming with the record. Am I doing something wrong? i have always saved these, as it's part of the album packaging. Can be interesting to look at years later. As far as I'm aware, in general I don't think they affect resale value. However, we are talking record collecting/valuing so I'm sure that there would have to be a sticker that makes a particular record very valuable. In comparison, Obi strips on Japanese pressings do affect resale value, so always keep these if you are intending to resell later. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full Range Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Eggcup The Daft said: If that's not a poly lined inner sleeve, I'd be more worried about the label being in direct contact with the shrink wrap. I had a label stick to shrink wrap with resulting damage once. I have had records etch from older plastic outer cover sleeve and the record was safe inside the freezer bag type inner sleeve So I’m at a loss to explain it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eggcup The Daft Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Not all plastic inner sleeves are safe either, though the ones I saw problems with dated from the early 70s and were thicker than for example the MFSL or Nagaoka bag type ones. In some cases I understand that simply pressure, rather than the type of plastic, on a rippled sleeve can cause the etching. Some wet record cleaning processes can remove it, depending on the cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrosound Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Not sure it is shrinkwrap. Shrinkwrap is much thinner (packing material). But it certainly is some kind of plastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citroen Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 5 hours ago, Tubularbells said: Flipping through a few records today I noticed an unusually large gap in one of the racks. Turns out the shrink wrap on one had recently gone bad and as a consequence had severely bowed the outer sleeve. Thankfully as I store my records outside the jacket it was not warped but who knows what would have happened if I had stored it inside (another reason why I do this) so beware as I know it is the fashionable thing to keep the shrink wrap intact especially these days as they usually also have a hype sticker or two on it. Wow!!!! I've not seen a case of extreme warpage/shrinkage like this, EVER on my LPs. I can imagine this happening on LPs stored in rooms with extremely variable temp control, or packed loosely. Not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundfan Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 I always remove it, the outer sleeve I put my records in after it gets home protects the album just fine. And on the rare occasion I buy 2 sealed copies (one for back up), I always remove shrink wrap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaynin Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 11 hours ago, Tubularbells said: Flipping through a few records today I noticed an unusually large gap in one of the racks. Turns out the shrink wrap on one had recently gone bad and as a consequence had severely bowed the outer sleeve. Thankfully as I store my records outside the jacket it was not warped but who knows what would have happened if I had stored it inside (another reason why I do this) so beware as I know it is the fashionable thing to keep the shrink wrap intact especially these days as they usually also have a hype sticker or two on it. That needs an exorcism... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubularbells Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 (edited) Ive checked a handful of other albums that are still in shrink and all seem ok. I was especially concerned with some of the rarer stuff like the clear vinyl of David Bodie's Blackstar and Kate Bush Aerial (both perfect) as we know records are more valuable sealed and as I already have playable versions of these an reluctant to crack the seal just for the sake of it. Could the storage method also have something to do with it as all my other sealed records are stored vertically in the rack where as the bowed one was in one of my flick racks (sitting behind the Coroner album) Edited June 25, 2018 by Tubularbells Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal beat Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 13 hours ago, soundfan said: I always remove it, the outer sleeve I put my records in after it gets home protects the album just fine. And on the rare occasion I buy 2 sealed copies (one for back up), I always remove shrink wrap. +1000 it just makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussievintage Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 19 hours ago, Plattenspieler said: Just curious, what for? Resale value? Information provided on these stickers? I always throw away the shrink wrap including all stickers (but I do use outer sleeves). I also throw away all advertisement material coming with the record. Am I doing something wrong? Collectors can be picky. I know Japanese albums can be worth more with the Obi (paper belt) wrapper still intact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal beat Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 hour ago, aussievintage said: Collectors can be picky. I know Japanese albums can be worth more with the Obi (paper belt) wrapper still intact. Paper OBI strip is very different to shitty shrink wrap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Misterioso Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 minute ago, metal beat said: Paper OBI strip is very different to shitty shrink wrap. He never claimed the opposite. Your quote is an answer to my question regarding stickers. Pretty obvious, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_mike Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Vertical and reasonably tightly packed is the way to go. As long as the spines face put, it's easy to select. Flick racks can cause edge warp if left in place too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eggcup The Daft Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 20 hours ago, Citroen said: Wow!!!! I've not seen a case of extreme warpage/shrinkage like this, EVER on my LPs. I can imagine this happening on LPs stored in rooms with extremely variable temp control, or packed loosely. Not good. Fortunately, only the sleeve (see original post). I have seen a record that bad, and have bought some in a box set that were so badly dished they could have been used as flowerpots! OK, slight exaggeration there but you all know what I mean. Dishing is the worst... never seems to flatten no matter what you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevoz Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 On 25/06/2018 at 11:26 AM, Satanica said: A very good band and album. Not that particular copy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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