PeppaPig Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Seeking experienced audiophiles who have intensive experience with the Devialet 1000 Pro and other similar priced amp can tell me your opinion about them? How Does Devialet sounds to you and does it worth the money? Pretty expensive price tag... thank you for your input! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janjuggler Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Hi, If in Melbourne why not have a listen at Carlton Audio Vision, the best way to find out is to listen yourself .... JJ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeppaPig Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) I want to hear experienced people’s opinion. Edited April 27, 2018 by PeppaPig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer sir sanders zingmore Posted April 27, 2018 Volunteer Share Posted April 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, PeppaPig said: But I have been there, listening room isn’t quite dedicated. Not sure what you mean by "isn't quite dedicated" I'm sure if you are seriously considering dropping ~40k on a bit of kit, they would set up the room any way you'd like it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynnyfalcon Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 While not a 1000, I recently picked up an Expert 200, and have been blown away. The clarity is properly astonishing. I haven't hooked it up to my main speakers yet, but I have with some KEF LS50's and I couldn't be more impressed. The one thing do have reservations about is the power. Some extra watts may be helpful, which the 1000 wouldn't have any issues with. Take a listen, I guarantee you'll be impressed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKay Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 21 hours ago, Flynnyfalcon said: While not a 1000, I recently picked up an Expert 200, and have been blown away. The clarity is properly astonishing. I haven't hooked it up to my main speakers yet, but I have with some KEF LS50's and I couldn't be more impressed. The one thing do have reservations about is the power. Some extra watts may be helpful, which the 1000 wouldn't have any issues with. Take a listen, I guarantee you'll be impressed. I have the 200 as well and was wondering about pairing it with some LS50s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKay Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 I auditioned the 400 as well and it had heaps of drive so the 1000 should be impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeppaPig Posted April 29, 2018 Author Share Posted April 29, 2018 Thanks for the input guys. I heard the Devialet few times from oversea as well as one of my friend have it here. What I found out is when the speaker's resolution isn't super super high, the Devialet seems really good driving them, I think the LS50 is one of the speaker like that. Don't get me wrong, I don't mean LS50 is not good, but its not a very high end product. But when Devialet connected to a super high end speaker, my listening experience is it sounds too bright, sharp, thin.... for example, those TAD, MBL, Burmester... Look I am not trying to make any conclusion here, it just what I found out in few of my personal experience, that's why I want to hear someone else's opinion... It could be the system I heard isn't matched properly, or Devialet isn't targeting for those speakers' market? I like the Devialet's simplicity, having two smaller boxes rather few big boxes and a lot of interconnect cables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops110 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Heard them in this system and was blown away. No harshness at all, the best sound I have heard. Non fatiguing, very very nice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer sir sanders zingmore Posted April 30, 2018 Volunteer Share Posted April 30, 2018 9 minutes ago, PeppaPig said: What I found out is when the speaker's resolution isn't super super high, the Devialet seems really good driving them, At the opposite end of the Devialet spectrum I’ve heard my 120 into my Avantgarde horns and a friend’s Wilson Benesch speakers. Both very revealing. It sounded superb - I imagine the top-end devialet would be amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frednork Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 20 minutes ago, PeppaPig said: Thanks for the input guys. I heard the Devialet few times from oversea as well as one of my friend have it here. What I found out is when the speaker's resolution isn't super super high, the Devialet seems really good driving them, I think the LS50 is one of the speaker like that. Don't get me wrong, I don't mean LS50 is not good, but its not a very high end product. But when Devialet connected to a super high end speaker, my listening experience is it sounds too bright, sharp, thin.... for example, those TAD, MBL, Burmester... Look I am not trying to make any conclusion here, it just what I found out in few of my personal experience, that's why I want to hear someone else's opinion... It could be the system I heard isn't matched properly, or Devialet isn't targeting for those speakers' market? I like the Devialet's simplicity, having two smaller boxes rather few big boxes and a lot of interconnect cables. Were you listening to the internal dac or other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer sir sanders zingmore Posted April 30, 2018 Volunteer Share Posted April 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, frednork said: Were you listening to the internal dac or other? Everything goes through the internal dac anyway as far as I’m aware Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynnyfalcon Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 My previous audition with the LS50’s were disappointing. Harsh top end and quite fatiguing. I bought a set of LS50’s on a whim based upon their universal praise and thinking that possibly the demo room was poorly setup. And I’m incredibly glad I did, the Devialet has smoothed out all the harshness and fatigue. To my ears, they are a great combo. And I’ve always considered the LS50’s as a highly resolving speaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wikeeboy Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Looooooooove my D1000 Its not bright or fatiguing. If anything i have found the sound out of it to be 'smooth'. It's a hamburger with the lot, does everything. I have TAD speakers which are ultra revealing, the 1000 drives them to crazy levels with no strain. Mind you, there are things you need to be aware of and do right with the Dev to get it humming. There are settings you need to select in the configurator. Cables make a difference for sure, and most importantly you need to feed it the best signal you can. Feed it a signal to its AES input from the output of something like a mutec MC3+ and a lot of digital glare is removed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wikeeboy Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Oh, regarding the LS50's... I've previously owned a Devialet 200 running LS50 passives, and now have the active version of the LS50's. Hands down i'd keep the active LS50's. No need for the extra expense, boxes and cables of the dev/ls50. The active LS50's for the money are great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wikeeboy Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Peppa, how are you feeding your O'da Devialet? I think the key to your troubles is the signal you're feeding it. If you get the front end right and still don't like the sound, the Devialet is just not for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer sir sanders zingmore Posted April 30, 2018 Volunteer Share Posted April 30, 2018 Turning off the Dynamic Power Management was hands-down, the best improvement I’ve heard. The unit sounds broken by comparison when it’s on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djb Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 @Pops110 is that room treatment along the wall behind the rack? Is it timber or ply? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops110 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Yeah it was room treatment. I think it was a combination but we didn’t really go into details about the treatment. It was at the best shop I have ever been in. In Porto in Portugal of all places. https://www.google.com.au/search?q=imacoustica porto&tbm= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeppaPig Posted April 30, 2018 Author Share Posted April 30, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, frednork said: Were you listening to the internal dac or other? Internal DAC, i don't think we can bypass it? @wikeeboy I have listened to Mutec MC-3+USB and compare it to Devialet AIR, it seems the AIR is very similar to MC-3 output. I have also listened to other D1000 setups, some are good, some are too bright. When you mention settings in configuration, can you share more details?? @Others Don't get me wrong, I am not making a conclusion here, I definitely love the EXPERT range products, and I think it is one of the BEST amplifier in the world. I just trying to figure out why some system I heard is better than the others, especially when Devialet connect to a higher end speaker I would expect much better result. Edited April 30, 2018 by PeppaPig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frednork Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 2 hours ago, PeppaPig said: Internal DAC, i don't think we can bypass it? @wikeeboy Yes sorry, not very well put. What I meant was whether another dac was used prior to the Dev and inputted through the analogue inputs. Yes I know it still goes through the Dev dac but IMO it can sound different. I recently heard a Dev 200 with Chord qutest and compared between using the Dev dac only via usb and usb regen vs the qutest w same before it through the analogue inputs. The Dev was much brighter in a negative way. There are lots of things this can mean but I guess I would be looking as others have suggested at how the digital is delivered when you are picking up a difference. So in that case I think it is more than likely what you are hearing is really happening. If you read through the various references to the Dev on this site there are multiple posts on how different inputs and treatments of those inputs made a difference. Then there is cables and power etc if you subscribe to that line of thought, not to mention system synergy. No idea exactly how it would affect the 1000 however. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wikeeboy Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 3 hours ago, PeppaPig said: Internal DAC, i don't think we can bypass it? @wikeeboy I have listened to Mutec MC-3+USB and compare it to Devialet AIR, it seems the AIR is very similar to MC-3 output. I have also listened to other D1000 setups, some are good, some are too bright. When you mention settings in configuration, can you share more details?? @Others Don't get me wrong, I am not making a conclusion here, I definitely love the EXPERT range products, and I think it is one of the BEST amplifier in the world. I just trying to figure out why some system I heard is better than the others, especially when Devialet connect to a higher end speaker I would expect much better result. What are the details of the D1000 systems you liked, and the ones that were too bright? Interested in what the differences may have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeppaPig Posted April 30, 2018 Author Share Posted April 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, wikeeboy said: What are the details of the D1000 systems you liked, and the ones that were too bright? Interested in what the differences may have been. Hi @wikeeboy, I know another guy who uses a Devialet with TAD speaker (Like you?) but he is using a D400, it sound bright... there are some report on web as well, you can search it. And my personal experience for Devialet, choose the right speaker is extremely important, a very revealing speaker usually sound brighter on Devialet. Some poeple may think LS50 is very revealing, but I think its in relative to some other speaker... well. but this doesn't means its Devialet's fault, it can be the speaker. or half half, because I do hear many system with Devialet sounds quite balanced and nice too. Anyway @wikeeboy could you please tell me the details of configuration you mentioned previously? so I can test them out? @frednork, Yes you are right. I do hear few people using external DAC analog into Devialet and they say its significant better! But I haven't heard one personally, so I am not sure. Technically if Devialet is 99.9999% transparent, then its very possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wikeeboy Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 IMO If you need to use the analogue inputs of the Dev for you to enjoy its sound, i don't think devialet is the right component for you. The beauty of Devialet is the ultra short signal path. Peppa, re Devialet and TAD. Very dependant on the speakers. The Ref 1's are a relatively easy load. My CR1's are a tough load, and my E1's easier. I've had the 400 and i wouldn't use it with my CR1's. Re LS50's. I love my active LS50's, but its in the context of what they cost. I wouldn't even compare to my Dev/TAD. I'll PM you with the config details. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeppaPig Posted April 30, 2018 Author Share Posted April 30, 2018 @wikeeboy , please PM me, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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