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I am still (slowly, slowly) working my way thru auditioning various speakers etc. I just ran into this little video with a (surely one of many) way to empirically work out your best speaker placement (assuming soundstage is what you're going for... https://youtu.be/MOY_SneLtro
Did anyone use this (or similar) method? Was it successful?
Best music for speaker placement and best speaker placement tutorial???
Having acquired a pair of Harbeth P3ESR speakers I'm having fun looking for the ultimate speaker placement.
I have downloaded
The Visual Sound the Sound Liaison DXD Music Sampler
as it was recommended to me as being a great speaker placement tool.
(Using the coupon code “XFI2019” you can download the 352DXD for $16 or the 24/ 96 files for $8.)
Especially the phase coherent One Microphone recordings on the sampler seems excellent for that purpose:
Carmen Gomes inc. One Mic Recording Session
On the net i.e. youtube, there are a great number of tutorials in speaker placement.
Any of these you would especially recommend?
So I am getting two subwoofers
SVS PB-2000 Pro : Ported with dimensions 440mm(W) x 571mm(D) Martin Logan Dynamo 1100: Sealed with Dimensions 380mm(W) x 411mm(D)
Room: 5800mm(L) x 3500mm(W) x 2700mm(H). Screen drop from a bulkhead which is probably going to 5500mm
Reading few guides, it recommends ideally to have the two subs diagonal in the room if possible. I have a L shape couch with the end finishing at approx 3140mm and the wall is 3500mm. So gives me approx 360mm between sofa and wall. Neither will fit.
So I will have to move the couch in-front to accomodate a sub at the back. Which will mean to move the couch at-least 600mm (depending on sub) + 100-200mm due to the curtain for it to close and not over the sub. So assuming 800-1000mm which means the sitting position has already lost a meter in a room which is length of approx 5500mm from the drop screen for 130". So makes the viewing distance roughly 4m or around for that screen size.
So the questions are
Should I put a subwoofer diagonally behind or just keep both in front? Which one should it at the back? Ported or Sealed? Or doesn't matter? If I put it behind the sofa, should there be need for it to have some space to breath right and can't stick the sofa right on the cone? Or just put the sub sideways and thus stick the sofa right to the sub? Should I put the 2nd sub in front (behind the screen as it drops) or in the middle of length of the room where the sofa ends (so a middle room sub and front room sub / back room sub)
Just trying to see what size cable I need to buy depending on the position of the two subs. I can't try it right now due to the house not ready so trying to guesstimate it here. Otherwise I will have to buy maximum lengths cable (approx 15m to go around to back and another 10m for middle room placement) and then just warp up the waste if all in front room. I want to avoid really large cables and then waste on behind the cabinet if possible. Just becomes a mess.
Attached guide from SVS for subwoofer placement
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Hi, these are total beginner questions so if it's been well answered before please point me in the right direction.
OK so I just came from listening on cheap headphones and portable bluetooth speakers to a NAD 3045D + B&W 606's (on stands).
I am listening either to my library ripped over the years from CD's using JRiver, or Deezer HiFi streaming or Tidal HiFi/MQA streaming (trialling because Deezer has some bad problems). Have tried both USB and optical connections from computer to NAD 3045D, and also optical connection to Chromecast Audio. It looks like USB lets me enjoy higher quality options (although I'm not sure I can hear it) and is generally more reliable, so I'm going to use that by preference.
Jitter - is it worth spending a few hundred dollars on the various devices that are available for USB connection? My system sounds so much better than anything I had before that I don't recognise any problem at all. Since it was not a super expensive system I don't want to waste money just to find out. On the other hand I don't mind spending that sort of amount to make it even better.
Speaker placement - how can I learn a little more without having to keep moving speakers and furniture around? Especially these questions - does it really matter whether the speakers are at normal listening height, or do they just need to be angled so they are aimed at the listener? what if there is no normal listening position, because of the way the room is used? When I have the volume up it feels more like listening to the room than listening to the speakers, and it doesn't matter where I am in the room. Am I imagining that?
Thanks for helping me start this journey.