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Groß DAC & Pre-Amp?

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Using the Groß digital volume control with the remote and connected into SGR CX3B powered speakers. As you know, audio is wonderful ! :party

 

Am of the old(?) school that the best pre-amp is no pre-amp, but @bhobba in this post suggested that only the best pre-amps like the PS Audio BHK or the AR SP-10 are worth it!   (As an interesting aside,  a BHK review mentioned that PS Audio's CEO was in the "no pre-amp" camp but changed his views and produced the BHK).

 

Just wondering how many of the Groß DAC owners (& those who have demoed it) connect direcly to active speakers or power amps and how many use a pre-amp?  If using a pre-amp, what pre-amp and why?  How does the pre-amp affect the sound (hopefully for the better) ?

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3 hours ago, Snoopy8 said:

Using the Groß digital volume control with the remote and connected into SGR CX3B powered speakers. As you know, audio is wonderful ! :party

  (As an interesting aside,  a BHK review mentioned that PS Audio's CEO was in the "no pre-amp" camp but changed his views and produced the BHK).

It's all marketing!  Talk about loss of credibility!  

 

We dont have a preamp in the product range so no Preamp is best!

Now we  do have a Preamp in the range so have a listen to this; awesome hey? 

 

Why anyone reads and take the BS seriously especially from BHK is beyond me!   I stay away from comments like that that's made by marketeers.

 

Preamps colour the sound drastically, after all the signal passes 100% through it and will definately have a real effect!  Especially via the volume control.

 very important factor is input sensitivity, gain  of the power amp and Impedance matching.  The lest sensitivity of that power amp input, the more likely you are to benefit with a Preamp, as it adds overall gain compared to just the output of a dac with a max of 2.0V 

That's why using a dac with volume control to bypassed a Preamp is not for everyone.  When I did it and posted the comments, you find one or 2 later posting that they had a collapse in sounds stage and weight and it sounds schi tt.

 

 

Edited by Addicted to music

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On 2/10/2018 at 2:26 AM, Addicted to music said:

Preamps colour the sound drastically, after all the signal passes 100% through it and will definately have a real effect! 

That is the key question: how much coloration ?  Although, some people pick a pre-amp because of it!

 

On 2/10/2018 at 2:26 AM, Addicted to music said:

 very important factor is input sensitivity, gain  of the power amp and Impedance matching.

Agree it is a one reason to use a pre-amp.

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No comments from others ?  Or is this too controversial a topic that belongs in the "Great Audio Debate" section of the forum?  Rather than start a debate, I am more curious on what people are using.

 

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