Grumpy Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Does any one have this 2017 vinyl release and if so can you tell us a bit about the SQ etc please Thinking of buying it , but I know some 'live' recordings can sound like crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EV Cali Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 There appears to be a few different Santana full Woodstock concert LP's. I have not heard them but I do have woodstock volumes one and two. Playing the Santana track off volume one ,Soul Sacrifice, now and it has great sq. Thanks for the prompt to play it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Posted October 18, 2017 Author Share Posted October 18, 2017 That drum solo on Soul Sacrifice should sound amazing on vinyl @EV Cali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eman Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 I have the Woodstock OST vinyl and Santana Woodstock Experience of 2009 https://www.allmusic.com/album/the-woodstock-experience-mw0000820334 It is 2CD with the S/T album. The woodstock cd runs for 45 min so would be about right for an LP. It includes the distortion in the opening track and then they managed to calm it in the next track. It returns at the end also. AFAIK this is genuine to the original Santana Woodstock live set. @Grumpy can you be more accurate about the " this 2017 vinyl release " you're referring to please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Posted October 18, 2017 Author Share Posted October 18, 2017 This one @eman https://www.discogs.com/Santana-Woodstock-Saturday-August-16-1969/release/10168661 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eman Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 It looks like the 2009 Santana Woodstock Experience on vinyl. The CD is OK but it's impossible to tell whether the listed mastering of the vinyl is right or not, given the CD details are now so often just transferred across to the LP covers. Interesting release even if the vinyl source is unknown. I like the idea of early Santana but actually don't get around to listen to it much. Think I've got about 5 LPs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Posted October 20, 2017 Author Share Posted October 20, 2017 Bought the album today - ill give it a spin tomorrow while having a few amber refreshments 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YCC Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 33 minutes ago, Grumpy said: Bought the album today - ill give it a spin tomorrow while having a few amber refreshments hey @Grumpy where did you get it from? Looking fwd to your report on SQ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Posted October 20, 2017 Author Share Posted October 20, 2017 57 minutes ago, YCC said: hey @Grumpy where did you get it from? Looking fwd to your report on SQ! JB's West Lakes. l think it was the last one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YCC Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 15 hours ago, Grumpy said: JB's West Lakes. l think it was the last one. Is it a double-lp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share Posted October 21, 2017 No, just a single LP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YCC Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 aaaahhhh.... need a Santana fix now.... spinning this el-cheapo CD picked up in a Melbourne thrift shop years ago.... early studio recordings, very raw sounding....the way I like it ! https://www.allmusic.com/album/nuclei-mw0000111709 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share Posted October 21, 2017 Ah! looks like I've put the wrong link in the above post - that is for the US and mine is the EU one. here is the proper link which is almost identical. https://www.discogs.com/Santana-Woodstock-Saturday-August-16-1969/release/10170029 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YCC Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 So what's your verdict? I noticed the US version LP & CD still available from overseas online sellers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eman Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 3 hours ago, Grumpy said: Ah! looks like I've put the wrong link in the above post - that is for the US and mine is the EU one. here is the proper link which is almost identical. https://www.discogs.com/Santana-Woodstock-Saturday-August-16-1969/release/10170029 They look about the same from the info there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share Posted October 21, 2017 Well ! gotta say im not happy. The record looked unclean and scuffed straight out of its paper sleave and it is very noisy . SQ was alright for a recorded outdoor gig but it lacked bass impact and never really drew me into the event like the enormous sounds off the DVD do. As l said the vinyl is very noisy, so much so, that l might take it back to JBs tomorrow. PS. also bought George Ezra's, Wanted On Voyage picture disc vinyl at the same time and played it straight after the Santana LP which really showed up the poorer sound of the Santana LP . You wouln't believe it that the very last trak on side B on th Ezra album kept popping and jumping - a quick look and l find a small 'divet' which l couldn't remove. Holy CRAP I' m not happy .These are suppose to be new records, not bloody worn out used shite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YCC Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Sorry to hear that mate, seems like a common issue with reissues these days, hence I'm kinda wary. BTW is this from the Legacy series, but pressed in EU? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share Posted October 21, 2017 34 minutes ago, YCC said: Sorry to hear that mate, seems like a common issue with reissues these days, hence I'm kinda wary. BTW is this from the Legacy series, but pressed in EU? Yes it is YCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eman Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Grumpy said: Well ! gotta say im not happy. The record looked unclean and scuffed straight out of its paper sleave and it is very noisy . SQ was alright for a recorded outdoor gig but it lacked bass impact and never really drew me into the event like the enormous sounds off the DVD do. As l said the vinyl is very noisy, so much so, that l might take it back to JBs tomorrow. PS. also bought George Ezra's, Wanted On Voyage picture disc vinyl at the same time and played it straight after the Santana LP which really showed up the poorer sound of the Santana LP . You wouln't believe it that the very last trak on side B on th Ezra album kept popping and jumping - a quick look and l find a small 'divet' which l couldn't remove. Holy CRAP I' m not happy .These are suppose to be new records, not bloody worn out used shite. No, it's enough to make you Grumpy, and far too common on new pressings. It might help a bit if they stopped putting them in scratchy paper sleeves ! The Legacy pressings I've got have usually been good but I don't remember seeing any made at MPO (France I think). Discogs has the US and the Euro both as MPO. Give them both back to the shop if you can face it. (or smash them up into bits and send them back to the label with a note). I'm going to take it off my shopping list. Just had a quick review of a low MP3 I have of the 2009 digital release and it sounds like a fair bit of live distortion. Although I'm surprised how often I hear intended fuzziness by Carlos when I imagine his tone as being very sharp it's not just on the guitar. I have read that there is an earlier Santana at Woodstock release but it does not include Evil Ways. I don't know the release or if it's on vinyl either sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Posted October 22, 2017 Author Share Posted October 22, 2017 (edited) Took em back and came home with 2 CDs - Lukas Graham and Rag`n`Bone Man : Rag`n`Bone Man CD- $13 - the vinyl would have cost me over $50 - ?????? Edited October 22, 2017 by Grumpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YCC Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Perhaps one day Mobile Fidelity might do a remaster job on it? That would be less of a gamble as far as the product quality is concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EV Cali Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 On 10/21/2017 at 5:36 PM, Grumpy said: Well ! gotta say im not happy. The record looked unclean and scuffed straight out of its paper sleave and it is very noisy . SQ was alright for a recorded outdoor gig but it lacked bass impact and never really drew me into the event like the enormous sounds off the DVD do. As l said the vinyl is very noisy, so much so, that l might take it back to JBs tomorrow. PS. also bought George Ezra's, Wanted On Voyage picture disc vinyl at the same time and played it straight after the Santana LP which really showed up the poorer sound of the Santana LP . You wouln't believe it that the very last trak on side B on th Ezra album kept popping and jumping - a quick look and l find a small 'divet' which l couldn't remove. Holy CRAP I' m not happy .These are suppose to be new records, not bloody worn out used shite. Interesting . Great sq on the original Woodstock LP. But obviously just cashing in on the vinyl boom with a cheap pressing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eman Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 13 minutes ago, EV Cali said: Interesting . Great sq on the original Woodstock LP. But obviously just cashing in on the vinyl boom with a cheap pressing now. SQ wise That is only the one track. The best one. That's why it's on there. Pressing QC. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundfan Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 This is not on vinyl, but is easily the best live Santana I have heard. A great 2 CD set. https://www.discogs.com/Santana-Live-At-The-Fillmore-68/release/1230405 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eman Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 ^ looks good. (A bit OT but I found another Legacy album pressed at MPO and I didn't like the quality of that either ). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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