cwt Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 7 minutes ago, powerav said: What! that is more than a 10 year old product, I wouldn't touch it either. Yes everyone knows about the HDMI board issue but gee whiz that was along time ago. Doesn't bother me while the fanboi's stay away from them I'll get a $4000 AVR for $1400 with 12 month warranty, if it stuffs up after that I'll get another one. Oh the board issue ; found it fascinating seeing all the complaints at avs forum about it before onkyo finally fessed up to the situation Did them no good for the bottom line $ Yeah good for you ; just add a sub with a good auto eq and its a bargain ; all too rare in this hobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 12 minutes ago, MLXXX said: Yes, it's not unusual for the audio of the performance to have been captured as PCM (perhaps 96kHz 24 bit) and then converted to DSD for the SACD. One reason SACD did not take off as a format is that it is impossible or next to impossible to distinguish SACD stereo from CD stereo at usual recording and playback levels. There was no tangible benefit from the format, for stereo material. (The fact that SACDs could also provide surround sound, unlike normal CDs, for some reason did not capture the public's imagination.) I’m in agreement but the DSD crowd wouldn’t 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerav Posted October 10, 2017 Author Share Posted October 10, 2017 29 minutes ago, cwt said: just add a sub Actually I added 2 29 minutes ago, Happy said: I’m in agreement but the DSD crowd wouldn’t Yeah probably the same here, no real rush for it. May get a Sony UHD or Oppo player later on and DSD will be a good side benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, powerav said: Actually I added 2 Yeah probably the same here, no real rush for it. May get a Sony UHD or Oppo player later on and DSD will be a good side benefit. But it is worthwhile checking it out yourself. My advice is to keep an eye on some old flagship or semi flagship SACD players for cheap. I did that and sold it off no regrets lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerav Posted October 10, 2017 Author Share Posted October 10, 2017 Just now, Happy said: My advice is to keep an eye on some old flagship or semi flagship SACD players for cheap. The issue there is that they do not have HDMI and my AVR and most other modern ones don't have 5.1 inputs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Ay that’s a shame indeed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerav Posted October 10, 2017 Author Share Posted October 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, Happy said: Ay that’s a shame indeed Yes this is the dilemma one faces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwt Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 1 hour ago, powerav said: Actually I added 2 With auto eq I hope ? Or do you have a mini dsp unit or similar sub eq box to sum them together ok ? The accu-eq is a good reason to invest in one Ignore this if its sorted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerav Posted October 10, 2017 Author Share Posted October 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, cwt said: With auto eq I hope ? No all good, prefer to rely on my ears rather than a bit of software, I had Audyssey sub eq before and I believe I have it pretty close to that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwt Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 7 hours ago, powerav said: No all good, prefer to rely on my ears rather than a bit of software, I had Audyssey sub eq before and I believe I have it pretty close to that. I envy your room and can see the logic of a clean signal [ at least above the sub frequencies where the peaks and nulls tend to be ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerav Posted October 10, 2017 Author Share Posted October 10, 2017 (edited) . Edited October 10, 2017 by powerav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Fi Whipped Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 What about pioneer models? i have a ev lx50 that's hdmi 1.2 and I think does dsd over hdmi even the later bdp lx55 can be had for around $150 second hand, built like tanks the pioneer players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerav Posted October 10, 2017 Author Share Posted October 10, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Hi-Fi Whipped said: What about pioneer models? i have a ev lx50 that's hdmi 1.2 and I think does dsd over hdmi Yeah, they are on the radar but hard to get, I think I'll probably wait a bit now and get a Sony uhd player when funds permit but I thank you for sticking to the topic and not trying to tell me my room or system is no good. Edited October 10, 2017 by powerav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Fi Whipped Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 2 hours ago, powerav said: Yeah, they are on the radar but hard to get, I think I'll probably wait a bit now and get a Sony uhd player when funds permit but I thank you for sticking to the topic and not trying to tell me my room or system is no good. Does someone need a hug? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSmith Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 On 08/10/2017 at 8:55 AM, Happy said: DSD signal, rather than DSD converted to PCM signal. Whilst multiple conversions should be avoided... all things equal, really should be about the same. But yeah, DSD can have advantages; http://www.mojo-audio.com/blog/dsd-vs-pcm-myth-vs-truth/ JSmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSmith Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 19 hours ago, powerav said: Oppo player I thought you just purchased one 2nd hand... I guess you missed out on that one? JSmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, JSmith said: Whilst multiple conversions should be avoided... all things equal, really should be about the same. But yeah, DSD can have advantages; http://www.mojo-audio.com/blog/dsd-vs-pcm-myth-vs-truth/ JSmith no need for a sermon....i dont really care for DSD anyway. but others might. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSmith Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 9 minutes ago, Happy said: sermon Ok... JSmith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerav Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 1 hour ago, JSmith said: I thought you just purchased one 2nd hand... I guess you missed out on that one? JSmith Got a Klein 2 dac instead, too hard to resist when it came up for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSmith Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 1 hour ago, powerav said: Got a Klein 2 dac instead, too hard to resist when it came up for sale. Yeah, saw that... just assumed you got both. You seem to be getting some nice kit together. JSmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerav Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 12 minutes ago, JSmith said: Yeah, saw that... just assumed you got both. You seem to be getting some nice kit together. JSmith Unfortunately not both, funds have dried up now.. I don't really need a disc spinner as this is why I was after a cheap one just to try really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeyboi Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 On 9/10/2017 at 9:16 AM, Snoopy8 said: A few years ago, JB did carry a number of SACDs, but they are all but extinct now... Hahahaha. In one JB Hi-Fi store a number of years back I saw a small stand containing DVD-Audio and SACDs. The ticket writer had scribbled something on the lines "... for those with super hearing....." on it. I guess it doesn't take too much imagination to assume the staff and management thought the formats were a joke in their eyes. Having said that, I ventured into my local JB the other week and they had Quad gear on offer. Go figure..... Cheers, Alan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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