gbb Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Item: Van Den Hul D102 Mk III, Hybrid Halogen Free RCA interconnects, 1 x 1 meter and 2 x 0.5 meters.Location: HobartPrice: 1 meter $100, 0.5 meter $50Item Condition: UsedReason for selling: SurplusPayment Method: Pickup - Cash, Paypal, COD OnlyExtra Info: Pictures: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimboz Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 hmmmm - I didn't know they looked like this - thought they were bright yellow with Gold RCAs with writing? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbb Posted October 5, 2017 Author Share Posted October 5, 2017 I bought them second hand about 17 years ago and have not modified them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimboz Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Probably how they used to be! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterr Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 (edited) 12 hours ago, gbb said: Item: Van Den Hul D102 Mk III, Hybrid Halogen Free RCA interconnects, 1 x 1 meter and 2 x 0.5 meters.Location: HobartPrice: 1 meter $100, 0.5 meter $50Item Condition: UsedReason for selling: SurplusPayment Method: Pickup - Cash, Paypal, COD OnlyExtra Info: Pictures: 8 hours ago, Jimboz said: hmmmm - I didn't know they looked like this - thought they were bright yellow with Gold RCAs with writing? Correct. These cables are clearly not *contemporary* D102 Mk III's. One fuzzy photo, wrong colour, not VDH connectors Edited October 5, 2017 by peterr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbb Posted October 5, 2017 Author Share Posted October 5, 2017 (edited) Is it possible that over time the color and writing fades? Could you pm me a pic of your interconnects, Pete? Edited October 5, 2017 by gbb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayaya1221 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 omg do they look like this like a chicken sausage without any printing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterr Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, gbb said: Is it possible that over time the color and writing fades? Could you pm me a pic of your interconnects, Pete? Pictures from 1997 are on the VDH website. Copyright prevents posting Edited October 5, 2017 by peterr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spider Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 (edited) Correct. Bright yellow, goldRCA, writing and directional bands too Edited October 5, 2017 by spider™ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbb Posted October 6, 2017 Author Share Posted October 6, 2017 I can just make out the writing on a couple of mine, I see what you mean by the rca's. If I'd had any doubts about mine, I wouldn't have put them up for sale. Thanks for the pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbb Posted October 6, 2017 Author Share Posted October 6, 2017 How long have you had yours, Spider? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaine The Audioaddict Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 I used to own a pair of this model, I know them well, and the color and RCAs don't look right at all to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbb Posted October 6, 2017 Author Share Posted October 6, 2017 Thanks for that, audioaddict. It wasn't my intention to mislead. I thought I had the genuine article when I bought them second hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimboz Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 no misleading - all good. I got a pair that look like the real thing just like spider (writing, connectors, direction label) but I reckon they are one of the many fakers that floated around - came in a black bag from the Bay, without any packaging. They seem stiff compared to another model of VDH interconnects I got from here (with the packaging) and when you undo the gold connector they seem slightly different..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbb Posted October 6, 2017 Author Share Posted October 6, 2017 I appreciate you explaining that, Jim. Makes me want to grab the genuine article to compare. If something positive has come from this, it's been enlightening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upfront Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Greg I believe these are genuine but with the RCA plugs replaced. Maybe the previous owner had a long pair and cut them down to make some shorter pairs and wanted matching RCA plugs? 17 years old (and second owner) is a bit early for ebay "fakes". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterr Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 56 minutes ago, Upfront said: Greg I believe these are genuine but with the RCA plugs replaced. Maybe the previous owner had a long pair and cut them down to make some shorter pairs and wanted matching RCA plugs? 17 years old (and second owner) is a bit early for ebay "fakes". Based on the info from the VDH website, and my personal ownership, these are not genuine. The circa 1997-2000 version had a yellow/gold jacket and black connectors. Latter versions had gold connectors. This is not a name and shame exercise. If in doubt, a simple email of the pics to VDH or the Oz distributor would clear this up in a jiffy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimboz Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 I was pointing out that even if they look the part, they could be NQR. Like here are mine (that I think are probably fake?? - they are about 10 yrs old) next to "the Wave" (green) which I know is the real thing - see how the RCA are different? Anyone got the real thing - do the RCAs look like the green one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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peterr Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 13 hours ago, gbb said: I appreciate you explaining that, Jim. Makes me want to grab the genuine article to compare. If something positive has come from this, it's been enlightening. To clarify, there was no suggestion you were misleading. I would just hate to think you haven't been getting full VDH value for your money. I was scammed by some fake VDH cable over 10 years ago so I have a sensitivity. BTW, the real-deal D102 III hybrids are a great cable and were my 'go to' cable for many years, until I bought the Jubilee hybrids (at 5 times the price!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spider Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, Jimboz said: I was pointing out that even if they look the part, they could be NQR. Like here are mine (that I think are probably fake?? - they are about 10 yrs old) next to "the Wave" (green) which I know is the real thing - see how the RCA are different? Anyone got the real thing - do the RCAs look like the green one? Mine are definitely the real thing, bought from a great local store here in Melbourne. can confirm mine are identical to your green one. funny thing is, I was going to sell mine as i’ve Changed over to Chord shawline....that why I clicked on the thread! Edited October 6, 2017 by spider™ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimboz Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 (edited) Thanks Spider - that makes sense as these lookalikes sound **it! but they definitely smooth a sharp system by removing all the details Edited October 6, 2017 by Jimboz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbb Posted October 6, 2017 Author Share Posted October 6, 2017 Thanks Pete, Spider, and Jim. I bought mine second hand in 2001 locally but given some other items I purchased at the time, it doesn't totally surprise me that I've been done by this but still a bit disappointing. I also went to other brands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spider Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 5 hours ago, Jimboz said: Thanks Spider - that makes sense as these lookalikes sound **it! but they definitely smooth a sharp system by removing all the details Brilliant! But at least you can say you can hear the difference between interconnects! All those people that say they make no difference- they obviously haven’t bought dodgy stuff off eBay! drop me a line if you’d like to buy the real deal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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