Volunteer sir sanders zingmore Posted September 13, 2017 Volunteer Share Posted September 13, 2017 Am I the only one who thinks that allowing listening devices into my home is an invasion of privacy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantan Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, Sir Sanders Zingmore said: Am I the only one who thinks that allowing listening devices into my home is an invasion of privacy? Certainly not. I could not agree more and why people willingly let the likes of Google and Amazon monitor everything that is said in a household is beyond my ken. I know this won't be popular but I think this is the final nail in the coffin of privacy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolster Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Spoilsports. Think of the fun the monitoring people at Google, Apple and Amazon are having. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantan Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 13 minutes ago, wolster said: Spoilsports. Think of the fun the monitoring people at Google, Apple and Amazon are having. Yep. They can scarcely believe they are making tens of billions because people are apparently unable to turn on a light via a switch 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Sherriff Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Yep. They can scarcely believe they are making tens of billions because people are apparently unable to turn on a light via a switch[emoji4] That switch is a long way from my bed though you know...Sent from my SM-T705 using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer sir sanders zingmore Posted September 23, 2017 Author Volunteer Share Posted September 23, 2017 This is what happens when we allow this tech into our lives https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/mg9vvn/how-our-likes-helped-trump-win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer sir sanders zingmore Posted May 24, 2018 Author Volunteer Share Posted May 24, 2018 still comfortable letting these "bugs" into your home? ..... asked the company to investigate after an Alexa device recorded a private conversation between her and her husband and sent it to a random number in their address book without their permission. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/may/24/amazon-alexa-recorded-conversation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hergest Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, Sir Sanders Zingmore said: still comfortable letting these "bugs" into your home? ..... asked the company to investigate after an Alexa device recorded a private conversation between her and her husband and sent it to a random number in their address book without their permission. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/may/24/amazon-alexa-recorded-conversation Ha! I've just posted the exact same link in the Alexa thread 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolster Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 I’m convinced. That is diabolical. Glad I haven’t bought one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxon Hall Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 I reckon all these huge Multi National Corporations who vacuum up our private info are run by "Gordon Gecko" types whose mantra is "Privacy is Overrated" It is ironic that Australians were horrified at the thought of a National I.D. card system years ago and it got rejected on Privacy Grounds. And now we willingly give up our privacy to the Mark Zuckerberg's of this world. Go Figure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer sir sanders zingmore Posted May 24, 2018 Author Volunteer Share Posted May 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, Saxon Hall said: I reckon all these huge Multi National Corporations who vacuum up our private info are run by "Gordon Gecko" types whose mantra is "Privacy is Overrated" It is ironic that Australians were horrified at the thought of a National I.D. card system years ago and it got rejected on Privacy Grounds. And now we willingly give up our privacy to the Mark Zuckerberg's of this world. Go Figure. yes, they sold the ID card the wrong way. This article sums it up https://politics.theonion.com/congress-demands-to-know-how-facebook-got-people-to-giv-1825180873 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieface Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 I have had enough targeted advertising turn up out of the blue to make me believe our mobile devices listen to us already. I don't think Alexa or home or whatever would be any different. The implications are concerning but I have discovered I am too lazy to turn off my devices as a general rule. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stump Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 I use Amazon Echo and have nothing to hide! Stump 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Marc Posted May 27, 2018 Administrator Share Posted May 27, 2018 On 25/05/2018 at 5:46 PM, Stump said: I use Amazon Echo and have nothing to hide! Stump This is my approach. If someone wants to listen in on me whining about running out of coffee beans, or telling my kids to get ready for school then best of luck to them. We have nothing to hide and I dare say, no conversations of any interest to anyone. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hergest Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 4 hours ago, Marc said: This is my approach. If someone wants to listen in on me whining about running out of coffee beans, or telling my kids to get ready for school then best of luck to them. We have nothing to hide and I dare say, no conversations of any interest to anyone. I have nothing to hide either but if i had Alexa i don't think I'd be too keen if when my wife and I were in the throes of passion it contacted some friends of ours and let them listen in. Privacy to me is a bit more than having something to hide or having something of interest to say. The linked to article was a private conversation being sent to friends of theirs, I find that a gross invasion of privacy and Amazon's response borders on the ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer sir sanders zingmore Posted April 11, 2019 Author Volunteer Share Posted April 11, 2019 Amazon staff are listening to you https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/apr/11/amazon-staff-listen-to-customers-alexa-recordings-report-says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emesbee Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 On 13/09/2017 at 4:28 PM, rantan said: Certainly not. I could not agree more and why people willingly let the likes of Google and Amazon monitor everything that is said in a household is beyond my ken. I know this won't be popular but I think this is the final nail in the coffin of privacy Final nail in the coffin of privacy? That seems to be a popular view these days, but it sounds like defeatism to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emesbee Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 On 27/05/2018 at 10:17 AM, Marc said: This is my approach. If someone wants to listen in on me whining about running out of coffee beans, or telling my kids to get ready for school then best of luck to them. We have nothing to hide and I dare say, no conversations of any interest to anyone. Nothing to hide so it doesn't matter? Call me old fashioned if you like, but I grew up believing that everyone has a right to privacy. Despite the relentless pressure from government and commercial organisations and meekly compliant individuals, I still believe in that principle. It has nothing to do with me not having things to hide. Privacy of the individual is still an important principle, and is a right that we should not be so ready to trash. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer sir sanders zingmore Posted April 11, 2019 Author Volunteer Share Posted April 11, 2019 If you want a deep dive into exactly what is happening to your data and how Facebook, Amazon, google et al. have simply asserted their rights to it, have a listen to this Sam Harris podcast. Its long but worth it https://samharris.org/podcasts/152-trouble-facebook/ did you know, for example, that when google asks you to prove you are not a robot, they already know you are not a robot (because they track the way your mouse moves). So why do they do it... well you’ll have to listen to the podcast.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren69 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 On 27/05/2018 at 10:47 AM, Marc said: This is my approach. If someone wants to listen in on me whining about running out of coffee beans, or telling my kids to get ready for school then best of luck to them. We have nothing to hide and I dare say, no conversations of any interest to anyone. Yeah I don't give a rats, they would be bored to tears 'spying' on me. It's like at work, when I go on leave, I give my password etc to the team to log in on my computer, they can access my stuff, it's all work stuff, who cares? Someone might need the info to move ahead with a 1.5m project. Half the team/ICT dep etc gasp. What if someone access norty things from your computer??? Well I was on leave you idiots, it wasn't me. They just bloody well better debug it before I return or they can take it up with HR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer sir sanders zingmore Posted April 11, 2019 Author Volunteer Share Posted April 11, 2019 9 minutes ago, Darren69 said: Yeah I don't give a rats, they would be bored to tears 'spying' on me. It's like at work, when I go on leave, I give my password etc to the team to log in on my computer, they can access my stuff, it's all work stuff, who cares? Someone might need the info to move ahead with a 1.5m project. Half the team/ICT dep etc gasp. What if someone access norty things from your computer??? Well I was on leave you idiots, it wasn't me. They just bloody well better debug it before I return or they can take it up with HR. Do you want them selling your health information to your insurer ? have a listen to the podcast I linked and tell me that you are still comfortable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren69 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sir Sanders Zingmore said: Do you want them selling your health information to your insurer ? have a listen to the podcast I linked and tell me that you are still comfortable I haven't listened to the podcast but will do, thanks for sharing. Not poo-pooing the articles, they are interesting for sure, in a conspire-by-candlelight sorta way and have heard similar before. But are they a big deal in the average persons life? Not sure. I also don't care about the Gov keeping my medical records and didn't care about the Aust Card way back when either. Really, one could argue the proposed initiative was replaced by photo licences and a Medicare card anyhow, linked through to (then) Centrelink. But we digress from the main thread, sorry. To answer your question re- health info and insurers, your insurance mob can access the info anyhow, usually just after you hit the morgue. With my depression fouregg zample, have been advised by more than one person to ensure it is declared as if I have a genuine accident at any stage and move on from this mortal coil and my insurance mob doesn't know about historical medical records regarding depression treatment, they have the option to try and wiggle out of bequeathing malto dollars to my offspring. Hmm, maybe it was suicide? Tell you what, we'll be good fellas and give you half anyhow... It's declared and my life ins et al are configured respectively. Best making sure those ducks are well aligned whilst you are still drawing breath, IMO. I think (and correct me if wrong) underlying question is 'are we considering everything?' and I think I am, I cant imagine there's anything about my existence that needs to be kept hidden, or indeed can be kept hidden anyhow, in the current digital age. I appreciate that everyone isn't in the same boat as me but I also assume that if you are in a 'classified place' in life, (Secret Services, military etc) you would have those bases covered. Edited April 12, 2019 by Darren69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Marc Posted April 11, 2019 Administrator Share Posted April 11, 2019 Nothing to hide so it doesn't matter? Call me old fashioned if you like, but I grew up believing that everyone has a right to privacy. Despite the relentless pressure from government and commercial organisations and meekly compliant individuals, I still believe in that principle. It has nothing to do with me not having things to hide. Privacy of the individual is still an important principle, and is a right that we should not be so ready to trash. No. As clearly stated I have nothing to hide therefore no concerns about this at this point in time. I’m entitled to my opinion and stance as much as you’re entitled to your opinion, right to privacy and the extent you wish to fight to uphold that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hergest Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 I would bet London to a brick that in the coming years it turns out that Amazon employees have recordings of people having sex and that they are all having a laugh playing them during lunch time in the Amazon canteen. Actual fact, just re-reading that it seems very unlikely. Amazon allowing their employees to have lunch breaks that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joz Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 So long as we don’t get surveillance cameras in public places, I’d hate them getting a vid of me sctaching or pickin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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