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2 hours ago, Quark said:

Perhaps it's intended that the region free mods move to external USB type as some did for the previous models.

 

The rest looks like very much incremental changes on the analog side.

 

yes be interesting what region freeing options pop up, now being released. and yeah doesn't look like anything bar incremental changes on the analog side. 

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This isn't a scientific calibrated measurement test but I figured since I had both the Panasonic 900 and the Oppo 203, I'd swap them over to see how they fared.

I had just watched Star Trek 2009 UHD and Deadpool UHD on my JVC X9500 and the Oppo 203 combo and using Kris Deering's recommended settings on the X9500, it looked superb. 

So I decided to put in some key scenes on the Panasonic for comparison. 

The Panasonic also had a Dynamic HDR slider which a lot of guys in AVS recommended setting at +4 on the JVC Z1/RS4500. I know it is not a like for like comparison but I figured I'd give it a try. 

My first impression with Dynamic HDR at default was that the image looked softer overall on the Panasonic. In the opening logos down to the detail on the actors faces - lots of close ups in the opening scene of Star Trek. 

Then I switched the Dynamic HDR to +4 - which appears to raise the black level - so there was more detail in the shadow details - my go to scene is Scotty's black jacket when he is running through the darker parts of the engineering deck just before he and Kirk are cornered by security. I think there may be a bit more detail in the jacket but in the preceding scene, Bones and Spock are having a private conversation and I noticed how smooth Spock's face was. Switching down the Dynamic HDR to 0 restored the pores in his skin so I am not sure if I want to use the Dynamic HDR slider all that much. But even then I felt the Oppo looked marginally sharper. 

My plan was to eventually use the Panasonic with the JVC and the Oppo with the Sony ZD9 - because the latter combo are supposed to get a Dolby Vision update later on but I may eventually get an Oppo 205. 

 

 

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good stuff doggie to explore for yourself. re the jvc, rather than using others settings, and dont know what kris deering setting using, but have you got the RM files ?

http://rmadvancedcaldisc.com/rm-uhdhdr-10.html

essential for basic setup I'd suggest :)  if nothing else will make sure dialled in :)

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3 hours ago, :) al said:

first under hood shot I've seen of the 205,

 

UDP-205-internal-hr.jpg

 

 

can compare with the previous 105D's innards,

 

Oppo-BDP-105D-interior.jpg

 

some changes apparent, one curious thing the new toroidal in the 205 no longer comes metal encased ? and bare instead ? 

 

also no apparent connector for region free on the 205, so likely as with the 105 have to be pulled apart for an internal install.

 

There are benefits..

You cant see it there but on the website the USB is now better supported for DSD and PCM is up to 786khz.  They also advertised they have circuit to reduced jitter in audio for  HDMI.

From those pic the PSU has been significantly changed to the 2 channel audio pcb not just the transformer.   Where there's WIMA caps for what looks like PSU rail decoupling they have been changed to SMD around the opamps.   There are advantages of doing this, all beneficial technically as well as cost savings.    Where there's individual diodes for a bridge rectifier there are now 3 individual full wave bridge rectifiers, SMDs of course.

Funny how the ESS 9038 is white in that pic!   

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4 minutes ago, Addicted to music said:

 

There are benefits..

You cant see it there but on the website the USB is now better supported for DSD and PCM is up to 786khz.  They also advertised they have circuit to reduced jitter in audio for  HDMI.

From those pic the PSU has been significantly changed to the 2 channel audio pcb not just the transformer.   Where there's WIMA caps for what looks like PSU rail decoupling they have been changed to SMD around the opamps.   There are advantages of doing this, all beneficial technically as well as cost savings.    Where there's individual diodes for a bridge rectifier there are now 3 individual full wave bridge rectifiers, SMDs of course.

Funny how the ESS 9038 is white in that pic!   

 

there is one odd quirk with the hdmi in that both hdmi audio and video have to be used if wanting the jitter reduction :) not really sure how that is implemented in practice :)

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16 minutes ago, :) al said:

 

there is one odd quirk with the hdmi in that both hdmi audio and video have to be used if wanting the jitter reduction :) not really sure how that is implemented in practice :)

 

https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-205/blu-ray-udp-205-Features.aspx

 

it explains it in the specs.

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I wonder if InterDyn in Melbourne has stock to go, since it is likely that Oppo Digital was waiting till intercontinental distributors to have stock, that seems how they have done it in that past. The parent company in the US have "Buy Now" showing, but the Aussie not yet. Maybe tomorrow?

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16 minutes ago, Addicted to music said:

it explains it in the specs.

 

yeah the only way i can see that setup is being used for music only as they suggest there, i.e. for pcm and dsd source and then id have hooked up for std dmi for movies i.e. audio and video.  it interests me the hdmi audio only and jitter reduction aspect as what benefit that might bring :)

 

6 minutes ago, Joe Rasmussen said:

I wonder if InterDyn in Melbourne has stock to go, since it is likely that Oppo Digital was waiting till intercontinental distributors to have stock, that seems how they have done it in that past. The parent company in the US have "Buy Now" showing, but the Aussie not yet. Maybe tomorrow?

 

probably worth checking with them, the lifestyle offer which I received via email said arriving may. people in the us are receiving or received already :)

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There's a 1GB RAM in the 105 that helps to buffer the data of the HDD via USB that's not there on the 205.  Perhaps because the 205 uses the USB 3.0 and they believe it's not necessary to include it....Im just guessing!  Better to send an email to query that.

Not sure whether we see this as a bonus but they talk about interference etc etc etc and then there's the 802.11AC built in!   The 105 had a dongle but wasn't up to 803.11ac standards, well the 802.11ac wasn't standard back when the 105 was released.

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13 minutes ago, Joe Rasmussen said:

I wonder if InterDyn in Melbourne has stock to go, since it is likely that Oppo Digital was waiting till intercontinental distributors to have stock, that seems how they have done it in that past. The parent company in the US have "Buy Now" showing, but the Aussie not yet. Maybe tomorrow?

 

Do you see a lot of takers especially with all the issues the 203 has had, then there the $2200 rrp, possibly discounted to $1999 for early adopters?

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9 minutes ago, Addicted to music said:

Not sure whether we see this as a bonus but they talk about interference etc etc etc

 

yeah am still wondering why they have taken the power supply casing off it !  many makers with sensitive low signal level circuits tend to put casings on !  but anyways perhaps they worked out there wasnt an adverse effect in removing ?

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4 minutes ago, :) al said:

 

yeah am still wondering why they have taken the power supply casing off it !  many makers with sensitive low signal level circuits tend to put casings on !  but anyways perhaps they worked out there wasnt an adverse effect in removing ?

 

I ws referring to the built in 802.1ac.....

i wonder what that effect will have on the audio...being internal.

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1 minute ago, Addicted to music said:

I ws referring to the built in 802.1ac.....

i wonder what that effect will have on the audio...being internal.

 

not unusual to have wifi capability in things these days e.g. the marantz processor has it. however they did remove the network switching hub off from the previous model to improve things noise wise.

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1 minute ago, :) al said:

 

not unusual to have wifi capability in things these days e.g. the marantz processor has it. however they did remove the network switching hub off from the previous model to improve things noise wise.

 

At least with the transformer you can take the cover off and do a DIY shielding with say some copper tape!  Or even better still find out whether the 105 transformer is compatible which looks like it is, but don't assume.   

I suppose 5GHZ wifi is beyond the human hearing capabilities. :D

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I am waiting for JVC to fix their Auto Cal software and get a sensor. 

 

I saw that disc and it does appear to work well for a friend's X7000. The nice thing is that the X9500/7500 really looks pretty good out of the box and it is takes very few clicks to get it right which is what Kris had recommended - out of the box, it was just a little dark. I took some screenshots of the menu settings but I don't remember an owners thread here so I didn't post it.

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