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1 hour ago, Kazz said:

Did you also set the remote code in the Oppo setup menu? 

 

I did follow the "book" Kazz, as it says holding down the enter key for 5 secs does the trick after moving Switch inside remote's cover and I did for code 2 ( didn't work) then code 3 and it did, so I assume I did all that was necessary, but it still operates both Oppo's.  Happy to be told otherwise.

Played Deep Water Horizon, intense film good story telling and it nearly got to the end before a short chatter issue right as the mast began to fall off, it picked itself up and completed OK, but going by the FW update report that film had been "fixed" not so? Played the same scene on the supplied Blu Ray disc version and it goes through OK. Love the extra details one gets too.

Also noted that Slow play Fwd is available in UHD now too but not Slow Play Rev, just thows up a red circle with line through it.

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A bit O T but do you get 'the making of Deepwater' with the 4K release. Great movie that I can relate to having spent 30 years on rigs, on land though. A good excuse to go 4K ,  when they get the players sorted.

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The extras video gives the lead personalities a chance to each talk about their parts in the film for about 15 mins each during their commentary one sees different filming being done at a distance so one sees the action behind the scenes as well as the props used etc.

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Well have spent the afternoon at @muriwai's place and think we may have cracked the issue of the audio and picture skipping with the Oppo......

Isolation is the key.

With the subs turned up is where the problems start.

With two layers of soft rubber blocks (one layer was not enough) the Oppo will play through happily without skipping. :thumb:

 

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Marty... I wish that was the issue and solves, and something oppo suggested to me a long while back but no gremlins would appear even regardless of audio. Goodfellas the movie on uhd was classic example, have posted further back. Even volume turned down to nothing it was doing its mischief !!! And much of its mischief was non repeatable completely random. Which was all the more frustrating about it.

 

very unfortunately for oppo too many firsts with this player. A home cooked transport home cooked error correction. A complete home cooked basis and chipset unlike others Panasonic /Samsung that use the same as they have used in their uhd TVs.

 

as a note when had the oppo I first had the cheap as chips box mover tin can casing sammy sitting ON my subwoofer and then followed with the pana uhd that also resided on my subwoofer. Neither skipped picture or sound giving the oppo the big finger and if anything I'd expect them to be doing all that and they never did.

 

infact to this day neither the less substantially built pana or even less substantially built sammy prior ever skipped a beat and no matter how much I try to bring the house down with my two 15" long throw subs and some 4kw at peak behind them.

 

at end I hope they can sort things. Their 205 was due in march obviously delayed with still issues with the 203. Hope oppo get there and hope they can have the 205 faultless. Because I did like the oppo and I'll have one again if it can just play discs as it should !

 

 

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@:) al

It is pretty clear that the 203 was rushed to the market way too quickly.

With the history that the 203 has had in its short life I don't blame anyone for having taken the unit back and gotten their money back.

 

With 3 firmware fixes so far and today's fix do I think the 203 is fully sorted.... ??

Well..... I guess time will tell though it wouldn't surprise me if it still has some bugs that need rectifying.

 

Todays thorough experimentation definitely showed that the drive mechanism isolation was lacking in the unit and was definitely the issue at play today. (Sorry to @muriwai's neighbours testing to reference level......:sorry:

 

Anyone who still has one of these units and are suffering skipping audio and video should should try isolating the 203.

 

Note: It needed pretty substantial isolation too though that may be partly due to Muriwai's very serious subs......

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7 minutes ago, Martykt said:

Todays thorough experimentation definitely showed that the drive mechanism isolation was lacking in the unit and was definitely the issue at play today. (Sorry to @muriwai's neighbours testing to reference level......:sorry:

 

unfortunately marty, I was many at times thinking oh gee its right... as would sail through a movie...false comfort... will be watching something else and you'd get micro stutters and drop outs and even freezes and lock ups and what not (non repeatable in 99% of the cases. its a very frustrating machine and reduced my movie watching experience to one of just sitting there and rather than enjoying the movie wondering just when it was going to trip up again...which is no enjoyment at all. As a note I have watched stuff on the oppo at volume with no trip up and also had it trip at a completely randomly at same time with a movie with no rhyme or reason be it volume or bass or anything. 

 

I do wish its fixed, and as much as want to believe it ... I have my severe doubts as I mentioned because I did much testing on oppo (USAs) request. with no volume at all. unplugging subs, switching off subs etc. to no avail. perhaps it needs some isolation from its own self ? who knows...

 

but what can say is two players many times less substantial in build. heck I dont even know if sammy or pana have had ANY consideration of mechanism isolation in their designs...they are that cheap a player. I've had number of other players over the years in my system (including previous oppos and never had the kind of stuttering and drop outs and freezing and what not the 203 was doing. and this is NOT at reference level I generally in my listening am running at a about -24 maybe -21db below reference at most so long way from cranking things to the max either. 

 

I hope indeed is the case, definitely others should explore and I would suggest to advise oppo usa with the picture for what its worth. and same with interdyn let them know too though might as well write it on a post it note and stick to the back of the house for the wind to blow away :D because thats about much use it seems telling them anything ! 

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@:) al

Today we were able to reliably control whether the 203 would skip or run smoothly.

I'm pretty confident we've stumbled on one issue with the unit though I couldn't say in what exactly is being effected inside the unit by vibration where cheaper players aren't efffected.

 

I'm also curious to know what issues the 3 firmware updates fixed.

It's quite possible that there are or were multiple issues at play causing problems which would also explain why some of your issues may not have been vibration related and also make it more difficult for the engineers fault find and sort the 203. (Again put out too early into the market)

 

Having only spent an afternoon with the 203 I don't know what other issues might show up later and what other bugs the unit may have.

If it does my advice to Muriwai would probably be to take the unit back and buy something else.

It could even be argued that the unit shouldn't be that susceptible to vibration.

 

I might take your advice and email Oppo USA as they might find the information useful and take care of one piece in the puzzle.

Was there anyone that you were corresponding with at Oppo Al?

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26 minutes ago, Martykt said:

Today we were able to reliably control whether the 203 would skip or run smoothly.

I'm pretty confident we've stumbled on one issue with the unit though I couldn't say in what exactly is being effected inside the unit by vibration where cheaper players aren't efffected.

 

maybe you were lucky to identify one issue tripping up. I couldnt. in certainly couldnt say repeatable in fashion. infact id say in the 30+ days of owning it and number of discs put through only one of the trip up issues was repeatable.. .and only on 3 ocassiosn after that wasnt repeatable either. the trip up stutter in audio/video are only one of the issues. there are others.

 

below is firmware history, (us)

https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/blu-ray-UDP-20x-Firmware.aspx

 

below is latest beta released for US just the other day, not sure what muri is running,

https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/UDP203-firmware-41-0317B.aspx

 

below is AU firmware history, which will see was just the official rolled over from the beta I was running,

 

http://support.oppodigital.com.au/support/solutions/folders/4000020612

 

not sure when au is going to get the latest beta from the US

 

I for one hope they get there and soon. they have pushed out the 205 and is now showing as April.

 

IF the 203 needs wads of shock absorption under to run sorry it aint a player for me no matter it sorts its woes

 

I will be more likely to get a 205 as I cannot imagine they'd release one without the issues of the 203 and it is likely more substantially built and we can only hope they have implemented some learnings from the 203 to make for a better player :) 

 

 

re contacting oppo in the us, I just used their email on their website.

 

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@Martykt

 

http://oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/UDP203-firmware-41-0317B.aspx

 

http://oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-203/UDP203-firmware-33-1229B.aspx

 

theres been 2 official releases and the latest one is a Beta version.  The beta version is to allow you to revert back to the previous version.   

It seems to me that it's no different that I was coping it sweet with the 105.   The 105 transport is no different, I don't play any optical discs in it and use it as a music storage player and nothing else.  The Sony s370/470/580 will crap on the OPPO in terms of P/Q in IMHO.  Sony as come along way with the s370/470/580 models and will play any disc without the stutter and stopping, a far cry back in the PS2 days where there optical drives were total rubbish.  

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to be fair I am unaware of any disc replay issues of any prior oppo so for me quite a shock to say the least with what id see as a pretty basic purpose of a disc player...to play a disc faultlessly... oppo au have also been resonably responsive in turning across overseas releases to our local ones. and we rely here on local ones. so atleast they have improved in that regard to their previous track record with the 103 and 105 where au is still waiting for firmware releases from last year ! I understand. and yes official firmware and beta are not to be seen as extra releases the officials are just the public beta releases turned official. and the first official firmware I dont see how counts as it was there bang when you switched on the player . everyone around the world saw the same and would say thats pretty much a factory release if anything !

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These three points in the most recent firmware are curious ??

 

7. Resolved a stuttering playback issue with 3D titles.

8. Resolved an audio dropout issue with UHD title "Deepwater Horizon"

9. Resolved a playback issue with UHD title “Star Trek Into Darkness”

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2 minutes ago, Martykt said:

These three points in the most recent firmware are curious ??

 

7. Resolved a stuttering playback issue with 3D titles.

8. Resolved an audio dropout issue with UHD title "Deepwater Horizon"

9. Resolved a playback issue with UHD title “Star Trek Into Darkness”

 

not that recent marty it came out as a beta a while back :) but yes fixing disc specific issues. ageless I read who had the "latest" recently watched deep water horizon and noted he reported the below,

 

Played Deep Water Horizon, intense film good story telling and it nearly got to the end before a short chatter issue right as the mast began to fall off, it picked itself up and completed OK, but going by the FW update report that film had been "fixed" not so? Played the same scene on the supplied Blu Ray disc version and it goes through OK. Love the extra details one gets too.

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21 minutes ago, :) al said:

 

I will be more likely to get a 205 as I cannot imagine they'd release one without the issues of the 203 and it is likely more substantially built and we can only hope they have implemented some learnings from the 203 to make for a better player :) 

 

 

 

The Sony UBP-X1000ES that's coming out later also looks interesting.

It also plays SACD like the Oppo.

 

Curiously it also talks about anti-vibration technology in it's chassis in the write-ups.

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1 minute ago, Martykt said:

The Sony UBP-X1000ES that's coming out later also looks interesting.

It also plays SACD like the Oppo.

 

Curiously it also talks about anti-vibration technology in it's chassis in the write-ups.

 

doesnt look a patch on the sony 5000es I had in their blu-ray days.. now that thing looked like could run over wiht a tank ! 

 

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they definitely dont make em like they used to ! 

 

all that said as mentioned neither the sammy or pana players I've used extensively look very solid players or talk of anti vibration and what not and work seamlessly so seem to think more to it ! 

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2 minutes ago, :) al said:

 

not that recent marty it came out as a beta a while back :) but yes fixing disc specific issues. ageless I read who had the "latest" recently watched deep water horizon and noted he reported the below,

 

 

Hehe poor Oppo..... It's almost as dirty a word now as "power cable"....... :P 

 

I'm getting the feeling that they may have to release something really great to come back from this one.....

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