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6 minutes ago, :) al said:

if dont do firmware upgrades I have to then ask is the JVC updated ? :D otherwise HDR will be a waste of time... though can understand at your screen size HDR would be a struggle :)

Yep JVC has latest firmware and BT2020 Colour profile imported.

 

I imagine HDR on small screens will be acceptable, but on the 143"  Scope Screen  its honestly a waste of time.

Striping the HDR and still running the BT2020 colour space is a far better option.  I am very happy with the Oppo and the colour rendition, BUT on some disc,s the supposed advantage of the Oppo and the 4k Native just isnt as good as the LX88 and plain old Bluray Upscaled.!

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Just now, wooferocau said:

Yep JVC has latest firmware and BT2020 Colour profile imported.

 

I imagine HDR on small screens will be acceptable, but on the 143"  Scope Screen  its honestly a waste of time.

Striping the HDR and still running the BT2020 colour space is a far better option.  I am very happy with the Oppo and the colour rendition, BUT on some disc,s the supposed advantage of the Oppo and the 4k Native just isnt as good as the LX88 and plain old Bluray Upscaled.!

 

theres been some comment on HDR stripping that jury is still out. good your finding of benefit. as we had with blu-ry when replaced DVD the blu-ray certainly didnt bring much to the table...good example is the original Django blu-ray...dont buy it ...  buy the DVD hehe. similarly with some titles where the blu-ray is really so good can imagine the uhd not necesarly bringing that much more :)

 

have no doubt the lx88 is a very good player too, have a lot of respect for pioneer in what they can do with players.

 

havent done much in way of comparisons myself with the oppo, just been working more on getting it working seamlessly. now lot better with that will explore more :)

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2 hours ago, :) al said:

 

yes kazz under its setup menu, find Color Space. will find its on Auto setting change that to YCbCr 4:2:0 thats it only thing to change and will find can then leave on the Auto setting for Resolution and find can play all disc types through to the jvc without flipping through the resolution settings. the kuro I only briefly checked as was getting late. and really just to check if the oppo menu came up without any fiddling around which it did. havent check tried any dual displays or flicking on the fly between displays or anything since will leave that for another time. was happy enough got the menu up and working on auto res and being able to play all disc types without fiddles in between :)  ps by the looks jury still out on HDR stripping which is fine am happy to keep running with it here and not in a mad rush to give a go :)

That setting worked a treat, thanks Al.  :D

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Just now, Kazz said:

That setting worked a treat, thanks Al.  :D

 

great to hear kazz ! if getting bored do try out the whole two display thing.... would love to know what you find :)

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Just now, :) al said:

 

great to hear kazz ! if getting bored do try out the whole two display thing.... would love to know what you find :)

 

2 display thing???  :unsure:

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Just now, Kazz said:

 

2 display thing???  :unsure:

 

oh you know trying to send signal off uhd blu-ray to your plasma and what happens when you switch from that to the projector on the fly. I'm hoping since using the auto res setting the oppo will actually handle it :)

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Just now, :) al said:

 

oh you know trying to send signal off uhd blu-ray to your plasma and what happens when you switch from that to the projector on the fly. I'm hoping since using the auto res setting the oppo will actually handle it :)

 

Ah ok yep I'll try that, probably be tomorrow though, early night here, haven't quite recovered from the almost all nighter on Wed night with seeing Rogue One.  :emot-bang:  :wacko:  :P

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52 minutes ago, MLXXX said:

Forgive my ignorance Peter, but my impression was that Oppo Blu-ray players carried a premium price tag, right from their first Blu-ray player the BDP-83. I have never before seen it suggested "Oppo has been at the forefront of players which provide exceptional value for money,".  Have I got this all wrong?   Edit: I've seen reference to some competetively priced DVD Oppo players, as distinct from Blu-ray Oppo players. And I've seen some very expensive Oppo Blu-ray players that include Darby processing.

Maybe it depends on the value you put on different aspects of the design MLXXX. Agree if its core bd playback for most but then oppo's have better compatibility with different bit depths ; colour spaces in this HDR mishmash we sort through . Better disc playback with sacd/dvd audio compatibility ; network file playback that works ; future dolby vision and now a hdmi 2.0a input that suits streaming sticks etc

I look at it from a perspective of what other brands lack [ even the Panasonic for certain features required ] and know that oppo is unique in adding extra features that were never even promised ; sacd file playback ; gapless playback come to mind :) Intangibles like bd java and disc compatibility over the long term is something others pay only lip service to unfortunately.. until they wheel out next years model..

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Hope so?bottle of scotch waiting for someone?
I will ring JVC support on Monday find out where can be done and take it in otherwise
Cheers

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7 minutes ago, cwt said:

I look at it from a perspective of what other brands lack [ even the Panasonic for certain features required ] and know that oppo is unique in adding extra features that were never even promised ; sacd file playback ; gapless playback come to mind :) Intangibles like bd java and disc compatibility over the long term is something others pay only lip service to unfortunately.. until they wheel out next years model..

Well if Oppo Blu-ray players have offered features beyond what mainstream players have offered, and the price premium for those additional features has generally been considered very good value for people wanting those features, that surely is another kettle of fish.  :-)  
 

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1 hour ago, muriwai said:

Hope so?bottle of scotch waiting for someone?
I will ring JVC support on Monday find out where can be done and take it in otherwise
Cheers

Hey Muri,

Not sure exactly where you are, but JVC have told me that these guys can do the firmware updates.

http://www.prohitech.com.au/repairs

Located in Ringwood if that helps.

I've waited all year , but with a UDP-203 sitting under the Xmas tree I've ordered one of these to do this and any future firmware updates on my X7000.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000VYJRY/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

$A42 delivered.

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1 hour ago, MLXXX said:

Well if Oppo Blu-ray players have offered features beyond what mainstream players have offered, and the price premium for those additional features has generally been considered very good value for people wanting those features, that surely is another kettle of fish.  :-)  
 

And relying on oppo already to fix the BT2020 SDR output with the experimental HDR stripping for our JVC HDMI2.0a models - uncharted waters -_- Not keen on getting a fury integral as well :rolleyes:

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13 hours ago, MLXXX said:

Forgive my ignorance Peter, but my impression was that Oppo Blu-ray players carried a premium price tag, right from their first Blu-ray player the BDP-83. I have never before seen it suggested "Oppo has been at the forefront of players which provide exceptional value for money,".  Have I got this all wrong?   Edit: I've seen reference to some competitively priced DVD Oppo players, as distinct from Blu-ray Oppo players. And I've seen some very expensive Oppo Blu-ray players that include Darby processing.

Hi MLXXX, comparing an oppo to a $150 (say) LG BD player will give the impression that the Oppo charges a premium price.  My wife is perfectly happy watching DVDs and BDs and netflix on a garden variety LG networked disc spinner...me on the other hand.

Perhaps it is fair to go the other way and compare Oppo to high end players such as Macintosh or Ayre (gear I don't even dream about).  Actually Ayre might be a bad example...they rebadged an oppo and sold it for a PREMIUM price ;)Ayre BD player  On this basis I see Oppo players as good value for money.

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Hi MLXXX, comparing an oppo to a $150 (say) LG BD player will give the impression that the Oppo charges a premium price.  My wife is perfectly happy watching DVDs and BDs and netflix on a garden variety LG networked disc spinner...me on the other hand.
Perhaps it is fair to go the other way and compare Oppo to high end players such as Macintosh or Ayre (gear I don't even dream about).  Actually Ayre might be a bad example...they rebadged an oppo and sold it for a PREMIUM price Ayre BD player  On this basis I see Oppo players as good value for money.


It's the Lexicon you are thinking about.

The Ayre may be based off an Oppo but it was a revolutionary system. The analog components and DAC section were all new. Including a USB DAC that was ahead of anything Oppo ever did. Oppo only implemented a USB DAC with the 105. And this was a crazy modified 83 from 2 generations before.

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Well I had a bit of a play last night with settings. I can get DVD, bluray and UHD on the 4:2:2 colour space. Bluray and UHD work on source direct resolution but not DVD. Switching to auto resolution worked for DVD.

So now I'm torn. We rarely watch DVDs and I'd prefer my JVC X7000 did the scaling but want the setup to be idiot proof for family and baby sitters


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16 hours ago, wooferocau said:

Yes , menu at 4K no probs.. No i didn't update the firmware.....i usually dont update firmwares unless i have problem and no what's being changed.

 

Been doing alot of comparisons this arvo... Oppo against my Pioneer LX88. I thought the Oppo would be night and day,s difference better than the LX88 , but that most certainly isnt the case!

 

In the case of the film "Oblivion"   The LX88 upscaled to 4k kicks the proverbial out of the Oppo and Native 4K !!  I was shocked just how much better the LX88 and the upscaled Bluray was.

 

Will do some more comparisons with other titles, but i was expecting the Oppo and Native 4K to really stand out.....

 

HDR is a waste of time.....the JVC just has NOT got anywhere near enough brightness to make this viable!.. 

 

 

 

 

Yep, so far my experience has been bluray upscaled to 4K with my HTPC is superior to native 4K on my X7000. 

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