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The Official 4K Ultra H D - Blu Ray Thread

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"NOTE: We apologize for the quality of images below. We are still investigating how to get proper screenshots of 4K content. These images were taking using an iPhone 6 pointed at a Sharp LC70UE30U tv in low light conditions. We assure you the picture is substantially prettier."

LOL, try using "a camera" maybe ?

http://www.all-things-photography.com/blog/panasonic-gh4-screen-grabs/

or just ask a gamer

:)

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early stages eh?

:rolleyes:

i couldnt help but notice the reviewer of The Martian UHD 4K had to "convince himself" it was an upgrade from BluRay on initial impact

"I’ll be honest, the first few minutes of the film I spent over analyzing everything and trying to convinced myself that this wasn’t that much of an upgrade from the regular blu-ray being upscaled."

to be expected i suppose

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Stacey Spears had this to say about Samsung's UHD Blu-ray player and The Martian UHD Blu-ray:

"Tested out the buggy Samsung UHD player, JS9500 and Martian this week. Martian has some visible banding. It is from compression."

"Comparing the include Martian Blu-ray to the UHD BD, on a 1080p display, resulted in about the same amount of detail. No banding on the BD though."

"All in all, I would avoid the Samsung player and wait for something better."

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=11862897&postcount=700

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Interesting to hear that some banding was visible with the UHD disc - thought we'd got past this with recent compression algorithms. Wonder if it's a display issue.

The JS9500 appears to be a 65" TV - not surprising similar levels of detail with that size screen - not really big enough to show off 4K at its best. Some scenes from the Martian BD looked a little soft on my 130" scope screen (especially some of the special effects) - thought they may have softened the 1080 image so the the 4K would be a step up, notwithstanding the special effects were only mastered at 1080.

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yeah you'd think he'd appreciate the detail vs distance required for 4K .... need to watch a 65 inch TV from 810mm-1m away to appreciate if any additional detail. with tv that size 4k is going to be a hard call no matter what !

yes martian is no oblivion or lucy. but myself particularly interest for that reason whether uhd brings anything to it :)

wonder if they will double dip on a movie like this though...I can just see like fifth element ... the umpteenth editions and releases hehe

wonder what the bugginess is he talks about ...youtube ...or related to running it without the necessary firmware update which caught some out

I couldnt care less wiht youtube....and someone like zombie saying it works fine wiht uhd discs is encouraging enough :)

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wonder if they will double dip on a movie like this though...I can just see like fifth element ... the umpteenth editions and releases hehe

Word over on blu-ray.com is that there's a special edition on the way... Expect Atmos and possibly some extra scenes.

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Is it 100% confirmed that 4K discs are Region/Zone free? Or has no-one actually tested them to find out?

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they have been said to be region/zone free since day one. as far as testing ....we wont know till someone here gets and tries.

please keep in mind the std blu-ray included is likely region A locked or region free...depending on studio involved.

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Now thats more like it :phone:

' ​Interesting to hear that some banding was visible with the UHD disc' - noticed one poster mention the dearer panasonic player has pro quality colour space/ hdr downscaling circuitry that may help with any 8bit output . If it isnt just poorly authored grading on the disc that is :question:

Word over on blu-ray.com is that there's a special edition on the way... Expect Atmos and possibly some extra scenes.

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Sadly, there is one notable snag when it comes to 4K and some specific film-based/digital movies. Over the past decade or so, digital intermediates have become the standard for post production work on all major releases. In several cases, only 2K scans of the original film elements have been used to complete many movies. Likewise, some digitally shot movies are only captured in 2K resolution to begin with. In these instances, the finished products are all limited to 2K. This means that any potential 4K releases of such titles will simply be upconverts. Thankfully, some contemporary films are now using 4K digital intermediates and several digital

movies are now being shot natively in 4K (or even 5K), which will make their future transition to Ultra HD very smooth.

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/24-digital-hi-end-projectors-3-000-usd-msrp/1490218-blu-ray-4k-uhd-coming-2015-a-148.html#post41495897

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=270798

This was posted awhile ago now Pete ; with the comments made about 'The martian' being mastered in 4k Ide say they have done a very good job with the upscaling remastering - as Zombie attests above :queen: 4k dci's listed below

So which of the new discs are true 4K?

Edited by cwt

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Ok, the only movie I might consider paying USD 30 for is the Martian..

I will grab HD versions for the rest... and reserve my money for true 4k movies.

Anyway, I don't have a 4k screen yet, so I will not miss much.

I will consider a 220v version of the Samsung when it comes over, that will be a nice BR and 4k player. OR get the Gen 2 version since there's no real hurry :)

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Ok, the only movie I might consider paying USD 30 for is the Martian..

I will grab HD versions for the rest... and reserve my money for true 4k movies.

Anyway, I don't have a 4k screen yet, so I will not miss much.

I will consider a 220v version of the Samsung when it comes over, that will be a nice BR and 4k player. OR get the Gen 2 version since there's no real hurry :)

always handy to have a look at the IMDb technical specs for each movie and it should give you a rough guide as to how it will be translated in HD/UHD discs

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3659388/technical?ref_=tt_dt_spec

The Martian

GoPro HERO4

Red Epic Dragon, Fujinon Premier Cabrio, Angenieux Optimo and Optimo DP Lenses

Red Scarlet Dragon, Fujinon Premier Cabrio, Angenieux Optimo and Optimo DP Lenses

Negative Format

H.264

Redcode RAW (6K)

Cinematographic Process

Digital Intermediate (2K) (master format)

H.264 (4K) (source format)

Redcode RAW (6K) (also dual-strip 3-D) (source format)

Printed Film Format

D-Cinema (also 3-D version)

Edited by mello yello

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yeah you'd think he'd appreciate the detail vs distance required for 4K .... need to watch a 65 inch TV from 810mm-1m away to appreciate if any additional detail. with tv that size 4k is going to be a hard call no matter what !

There is also the benefit of HDR which can be seen from any seating distance... otherwise, I agree, 4K is fairly useless for most homes.

JSmith :ninja:

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Thanks mate

Did I see a 2k source somewhere in the chain?

It's a little confusing..

yep, 2K digital intermediate, which as i understand it, is the base copy, the master copy, the finished product, so even though 4K is mentioned there, i think, it gets finalised in 2K

yes, very confusing

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