Jump to content

mello yello

The Official 4K Ultra H D - Blu Ray Thread

Recommended Posts

are ya'll ready for this ?

KINGSMAN - The Secret Service to be the first 4K UHD BluRay title

kingsman_ultrahd_s_2015.jpg

20th Century Fox just confirmed than they plan to release all of their new movies on home video to the 4K UltraHD Blu-ray format at the same time as the regular Blu-ray edition.

http://www.nextgenho...-blu-ray-title/

bla bla bla, yadda yadda yadda ... then we had sex

Edited by mello yello

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

are ya'll ready for this ?

KINGSMAN - The Secret Service to be the first 4K UHD BluRay title

Excellent... good film to start the new format with. :)

It's not made clear though if these new titles are being released with a HDR as well as being in UHD/4K...

JSmith :ninja:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

i have no idea what you just asked, so i had to Google HDR

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=HDR&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=3uRHVqfiKMHXmgXbn4vIAQ

the article (and Fox) dont mention technical details just yet, but it should be fun speculating or making a wish list of what we want

hopefully this thread will be both informative and enlightening for both the technically minded and the relative technical midgets (like me)

:)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

are ya'll ready for this ?

ok, going to need

  • a 4K UHD television (getting cheaper)
  • a 4K UHD player ( becoming available)
  • a 4K UHD receiver i would imagine (already available)
  • and a lot more discs (print them, we will come)

of course there are download options like NutFlakes where all you need is a good high bitrate internet connection and reliable provider and a TV,

and Fox's early adopter involvement with the hardware discs could possibly be an experiment in the market place or just to get BnM shelf exposure as a sequway into Foxtel 4K UHD channels,

its all very interesting, and i wonder if the hardware route is cheaper in the long run than perpetual internet costs

Foxtel could kill the market and NutFlakes with just a few simple high bitrate 4K channels...if they were smart

personally i prefer the real disc real deal

Edited by mello yello

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites


Suppose for those with the UHD TV might as well see what it really can do with some proper material.

I reckon the clincher might just be what pricing is when they hit the streets.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I reckon the clincher might just be what pricing is when they hit the streets.

True... probably $40+ here as it was mentioned $30+ in the US upon release.

Looks like after reading this the Fox titles will be released using HDR too;

"...with high dynamic range..." :)

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=17520

JSmith :ninja:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm nearly there:

I've got a 65" LG TV that shows Netflix 4K already. This looks damn good, and that's bandwidth limited. UHD BD should be very nice.

I bought a new Denon AVR-7200W with HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2 for UHD a couple weeks ago (Atmos with DTS:X upgrade via firmware soon). What surprised me was how good it's 4K upscaling looks! (From 1080 sources).

There's a few 4K media players becoming available or recently released. My Kodi Intel NUC will do HEVC (h.265).

I'm waiting on confirmation of how UHD BD will license its streaming/downloads. I'm hoping we can buy a digital copy more cheaply than on disc (no media shipping/manufacturing and maybe less margin for digital retailers. Will we even need distributors in a streaming/digital file world? Just buy directly from the studios?)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites


Here we go again, the bleeding edge of Sony technology strikes again. :D

It all seems rather fuzzy to me but haven't we been duped by them before into thinking ..... this is the promise of video heaven about to be fulfilled ? :unsure:

Enter the world of firmware updates and disc compatibility problems at your peril, it may be better this time round, one can only hope. :D

C.M

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Here we go again, the bleeding edge of Sony technology strikes again. :D

Yeah... I don't think I'll be upgrading any of my collection this time around.

I'll buy new ones though on the new format once the pricing settles down for both hardware and discs.

HDR seems to be a fairly good development;

"The idea behind HDR is that it can provide a higher level of contrast between light and dark images on the screen to create a much more realistic image. That may not sound like a lot on paper, but in reality, it’s a pretty significant move. In fact, many in the industry believe HDR represents a significantly bigger leap in picture quality than UHD’s higher resolution."

http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/hdr-for-tvs-explained/

JSmith :ninja:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

As discussed in other threads, UHD on a small screen that is typical of a TV is rather pointless, unless of course you use binoculars and move your head a lot.

HDR may be to some advantage but it almost seems, at least to me, that the gamma is being manipulated somewhat by manufacturers to enhance contrast. I just wonder how linear that HDR grey scale really is ?

Owen is into this stuff more than most, maybe he is clued up enough on HDR to give it a thumbs up.

C.M

Edited by Tweet

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Excellent... good film to start the new format with. :)

It's not made clear though if these new titles are being released with a HDR as well as being in UHD/4K...

JSmith :ninja:

It is my understanding that all disks released under the UHD banner must have a form of HDR embedded.

Currently HDR10 and Dolby Vision are the two options, with each being mutually exclusive. I don't know enough at this stage to say which is better, but it looks like most disks will be HDR10, some may have both, and a smaller percentage with Dolby Vision alone.

From the information coming out of Germany( Ekki at cine4home) with the testing of the new JVC X5000/7000/9000 projectors it looks like HDR and the new improved DCI-P3 colour gamut included in the UHD standard are "very worthwhile" improvements over Bluray. Certainly much more than the improvement provided by the increase in resolution to 4k.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites


It is my understanding that all disks released under the UHD banner must have a form of HDR embedded.

Currently HDR10 and Dolby Vision are the two options, with each being mutually exclusive. I don't know enough at this stage to say which is better, but it looks like most disks will be HDR10, some may have both, and a smaller percentage with Dolby Vision alone.

From the information coming out of Germany( Ekki at cine4home) with the testing of the new JVC X5000/7000/9000 projectors it looks like HDR and the new improved DCI-P3 colour gamut included in the UHD standard are "very worthwhile" improvements over Bluray. Certainly much more than the improvement provided by the increase in resolution to 4k.

hi dave, do be sure to post in the jvc thread if come across any juicy bits relating :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It is my understanding that all disks released under the UHD banner must have a form of HDR embedded.

Currently HDR10 and Dolby Vision are the two options, with each being mutually exclusive. I don't know enough at this stage to say which is better, but it looks like most disks will be HDR10, some may have both, and a smaller percentage with Dolby Vision alone.

From the information coming out of Germany( Ekki at cine4home) with the testing of the new JVC X5000/7000/9000 projectors it looks like HDR and the new improved DCI-P3 colour gamut included in the UHD standard are "very worthwhile" improvements over Bluray. Certainly much more than the improvement provided by the increase in resolution to 4k.

ah, a technical giant, welcome IMDave and thank you for that info

what would i get for the family cow and a handful of beans? lol

would i get one of those fancy PJs?

Edited by mello yello

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Suppose for those with the UHD TV might as well see what it really can do with some proper material.

I reckon the clincher might just be what pricing is when they hit the streets.

$45-$50 ? maybe more

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Here we go again, the bleeding edge of Sony technology strikes again. :D

It all seems rather fuzzy to me but haven't we been duped by them before into thinking ..... this is the promise of video heaven about to be fulfilled ? :unsure:

Enter the world of firmware updates and disc compatibility problems at your peril, it may be better this time round, one can only hope. :D

C.M

perhaps Toshiba might develop their own 4K format

is there anything stopping another high resolution format ?

i mean as i understand it, its a blu ray format with a higher resolution, there is nothing stopping another company offering the same resolution in their own format, SONY cant hold a copyright or a patent on resolutions

perhaps if they overpriced and gouged (depending on its take up and popularity) another company might see an opportunity to be competitive and we might be lucky and see another format war on these here hallowed halls once again LOL

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites


Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...