Blackman1503561291 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 My local JB has never even heard of UHDBR. They have also not heard of Atmos 7.2.4 One salesman said to me "But you only need 2 speakers on the ceiling and no rear surrounds" for Atmos" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mello yello Posted January 28, 2016 Author Share Posted January 28, 2016 just a heads up for anyone who already owns a 4K panel, however cheap or expensive, you have a jump on most of us with online 4K content from Netflix and other sources http://4k.com/movies/ http://www.cnet.com/news/4k-content-guide-what-to-watch-in-4k-today/ 4K TVs are hurtling towards HDTV-level prices at incredible speed but 4K content, at least for now, is only marching forward slowly and very cautiously. While streaming sources of ultra HD are doing this a bit more confidently than many others, the broadcast TV side of the UHD spectrum is really making a slow go of it. Thus, for the most part, what you’re going to get the most bang for your buck from will either be streaming online content from sources like Netflix and others we mention below or from media set-top box content sources that are specific to certain TV models made by the same companies that create the set-top boxes. and A good example of this latter content source is Sony and its 4K media player. It gives your UHD TV (also from Sony) access to the largest single library of UHD movies and entertainment in existence today but the media player itself does cost a pretty load of $500 USD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mello yello Posted January 28, 2016 Author Share Posted January 28, 2016 SONY have an upscaling 4K player http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00X6AGWRQ/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B00X6AGWRQ&linkCode=as2&tag=4k0e-20&linkId=OQEODRVSODTQMXKM coming soon to Australia hopefully in time for a Star Wars 4K release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davmel Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 but the media player itself does cost a pretty load of $500 USD. Why would anyone buy a standalone player at such great expense when any decent HTPC, even an Intel NUC with an attached USB bluray player with BD-XL support will be able to play the discs and/or rip them and be far more versatile in what you can do with it (and not be crippled with restrictions etc)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mello yello Posted January 28, 2016 Author Share Posted January 28, 2016 (and not be crippled with restrictions etc)? there is no region coding with 4K discs a 4K HTPC ? build one and i will include it in this thread if you like, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSmith Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 ... not be crippled with restrictions etc.? Do you mean restrictions within the player, i.e. HDCP 2.2 or region coding? If the latter AFAIK 4K UHD blu's will be regionless... HDCP is a b!tch as usual... JSmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mello yello Posted January 28, 2016 Author Share Posted January 28, 2016 oh, snap make a wish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSmith Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) oh, snap make a wish Done. JSmith Edited January 28, 2016 by jsmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davmel Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I am referring to HDCP and all the stupid menus/copyright warnings etc that you are forced to wade through to get to the movie. All that is avoided if you rip the disc to hard drive and store on a NAS etc to access from any networked device at any time rather than having to mess around with discs. I personally can't see the point of standalone DVD/bluray players these days as they are as useful as a standalone VCR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mello yello Posted January 28, 2016 Author Share Posted January 28, 2016 ok i see your point now, i thought you meant region coding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betty boop Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I am referring to HDCP and all the stupid menus/copyright warnings etc that you are forced to wade through to get to the movie. All that is avoided if you rip the disc to hard drive and store on a NAS etc to access from any networked device at any time rather than having to mess around with discs. I personally can't see the point of standalone DVD/bluray players these days as they are as useful as a standalone VCR. yeah but then you buy a disc and cant watch it as forced to wait till its ripped etc ? am actually other way around and sold off my perfectly good media player as find I much rather buy a disc pop in the player and start watching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davmel Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 yeah but then you buy a disc and cant watch it as forced to wait till its ripped etc ? It's not much of a wait ~10mins or so. Driving back from the shops takes longer than that and much less time than the week or more it takes for a mail order to arrive. Once ripped and copied to NAS it is instantly available to any networked device or can be copied to a portable device for viewing offsite. For me blurays aren't a playback medium, they are just a convenient way to transfer a huge amount of data to my local network faster than the internet will allow (due to bandwidth/quota reasons). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwt Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 http://www.avsforum.com/forum/24-digital-hi-end-projectors-3-000-usd-msrp/1490218-blu-ray-4k-uhd-coming-2015-a-135.html#post41027450 Whatever your poison I wouldnt want to tick Hollywood off or your player might be checking your discs via the web Note the iniquitous regime on bd rom drives ; fantastic . I wonder how long it will take to crack the DRM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 SONY have an upscaling 4K player http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00X6AGWRQ/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B00X6AGWRQ&linkCode=as2&tag=4k0e-20&linkId=OQEODRVSODTQMXKM coming soon to Australia hopefully in time for a Star Wars 4K release But it won't play a 4k UHD disc, only upscale a standard blu-ray. So many people are going to buy these thinking they're getting a UHD player only to find they've been conned... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mello yello Posted January 28, 2016 Author Share Posted January 28, 2016 But it won't play a 4k UHD disc, only upscale a standard blu-ray. So many people are going to buy these thinking they're getting a UHD player only to find they've been conned... well spotted, i noticed that after i looked closer after i linked it i included the link thinking it was the UHD player the article mentioned this is the actual player here http://4k.com/devices/a-review-of-the-sony-fmpx10-4k-ultra-hd-media-player/ Sony FMPX10 4K Ultra HD Media Playerthe point was current access to online 4K content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mello yello Posted January 28, 2016 Author Share Posted January 28, 2016 so Samsung is still the only UHD disc player ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betty boop Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 It's not much of a wait ~10mins or so. Driving back from the shops takes longer than that and much less time than the week or more it takes for a mail order to arrive. Once ripped and copied to NAS it is instantly available to any networked device or can be copied to a portable device for viewing offsite. For me blurays aren't a playback medium, they are just a convenient way to transfer a huge amount of data to my local network faster than the internet will allow (due to bandwidth/quota reasons). very strange line of argument. because to rip the disc you still need to wait for it to come from where ever you might be getting it from ! the difference is while once I have the disc I will pop in my player and have it up and running in few minutes...while you will be popping in disc drive and waiting 10 minutes for it to rip and then start viewing. so you cant be bothered going through what couple of minutes of previews or whatever junk at the start of a movie. and I cant be bothered having to wait 10 minutes to wait for something to rip before can watch it ? choose your poison s cwt says ? I cant be bothered ripping anymore. buy stick in player hit play job done enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) well spotted, i noticed that after i looked closer after i linked it i included the link thinking it was the UHD player the article mentioned this is the actual player here http://4k.com/devices/a-review-of-the-sony-fmpx10-4k-ultra-hd-media-player/Sony FMPX10 4K Ultra HD Media Playerthe point was current access to online 4K content Looks like it's only a downloading/streaming device with no disc playback. That's consistent with Sony's push for a move away from discs to a pay per view model - they can shove that. Edited January 28, 2016 by Quark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betty boop Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 yep they can shove that…. ironically sony is having a bet each way... their studio arm sony pictures is releasing ultra hd blu-rays…. http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/6/10723086/sony-pictures-ultra-hd-blu-ray-dolby-atmos their company just won't have anything to play them on. a bit silly. also dissaointing as a company they have always been leaders, but looks like this time they will be followers. their media player from all accounts overseas is garbage. very un user friendly and frustrating in use. and this is from quite technically minded people so yeah I for one rather have no bar of it. prefer an open platform that allows playback from all studios rather than what they only have access to and needing an internet connection to feed it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satanica Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I cant be bothered ripping anymore. buy stick in player hit play job done enjoy Be honest, how many times do you bring a disc home and play it straight away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jutta Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Be honest, how many times do you bring a disc home and play it straight away? How many times do you bring a disc home and rip it straight away....same argument. Horses for courses, give me the physical media any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSmith Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I cant be bothered ripping anymore. buy stick in player hit play job done enjoy I agree. Whilst I may keep 'em for a while before I actually open and play it... when I do it's just a matter of putting the disc in. JSmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Robot Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 How many times do you bring a disc home and rip it straight away....same argument. Horses for courses, give me the physical media any day. The big problem with ripping is the amount of hdd space needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixo Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 i'd love to know how big the rip of a ultra blu ray will be... mixo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSmith Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 i'd love to know how big the rip of a ultra blu ray will be... mixo Complete or compressed? JSmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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