Jump to content

Jurassic World.............


Recommended Posts

  • 2 months later...
  • Replies 113
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

It's a shame this movie lacked any real story or substance.

It's also a shame Hollywood continues to focus on non-realistic CGI instead of making movies properly.

JSmith :ninja:

Link to post
Share on other sites


It's a shame this movie lacked any real story or substance.

It's also a shame Hollywood continues to focus on non-realistic CGI instead of making movies properly.

JSmith :ninja:

Very so-so for me. I'll buy it for the young fella as he loves his dinosaurs.

Link to post
Share on other sites


It's a shame this movie lacked any real story or substance.

It's also a shame Hollywood continues to focus on non-realistic CGI instead of making movies properly.

JSmith :ninja:

CGI is leaps and bounds ahead of what it used to be. For example, in Life of Pi it is impossible to tell which scenes are of actual footage of the tiger and which are CGI versions of the tiger.

Of course if the subject matter of the movie includes animals that do not exist in today's world, there is little alternative to CGI. Constructing animated models of animals is expensive, and the results will tend not to look realistic.

Link to post
Share on other sites

CGI is leaps and bounds ahead of what it used to be.

True... but they still need to much work on gravity and convincing the viewer that the CGI object is actually there with the actor.

You'll find many comments online about this film in particular in relation to CGI usage and realism...

JSmith :ninja:

Link to post
Share on other sites


True... but they still need to much work on gravity

Forgive the pun but I thought the CGI in Gravity (2013) grossly exaggerated the tumbling of Sandra Bullock in space. I suspect though that the director may have encouraged or at least approved that exaggeration "for dramatic effect".

As matters stand, CGI animation/effects cost many millions of dollars and many hundreds of hours in computer time. It will be more demanding when 4k becomes the norm for the digital intermediate.

It is not econonomically feasible to achieve perfection in all CGI in 2015. Going back a decade, I found the CGI in Peter Jackson's King Kong (2005) poor during scenes involving the beast moving quickly. Presumably the computer processing grunt was insufficient at the time. And there are quibbles with Jackson's much more recently released Hobbit trilogy though much of the CGI was first rate, e.g. the depiction of the dragon, Smaug.

If you go back several decades in movie making, the depiction of monsters (and certain other special effect scenes) was far from realistic and viewers had to suspend disbelief, despite obvious imperfections.

In my opinion, we currently can see the most ambitious, and nearest to realistic CGI, that has ever been produced in feature movies. (I would note that Terminator 2 (1991) was ahead of its time for CGI and very convincing, though not as ambitious as some of today's CGI offerings.)

Link to post
Share on other sites

What elements of the 3D didn't work for you?

The way it seemed to blur things in the background to make the foreground appear to be in 3D in certain scenes.

I noticed blurring and mentioned it earlier in this thread. It's interesting you report the 2D version was indeed less blurred.

I saw this on the weekend. Shot in 2D. Converted to 3D. Conversion very competent. No apparent glitches I noticed.

...

Resolution

I see that the digital intermediate was pretty standard at 2K (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0369610/technical?ref_=tt_dt_spec ) but the 3D theatrical version looked to me more like 720p than 1080p at the suburban cinema I attended. There really was not a lot of sharpness. There appeared to be a great deal of use of blur for parts of the frame not intended to be "focussed" on. This blur appeared to me to have been added. I don't know whether the 2D theatrical version would exhibit as much blur in the backround part of the frame when the action of interest is occurring in the foreground. Perhaps this movie will be remastered (and the CGI reworked?) at some time in the future to 4k. It certainly had a very ordinary apparent resolution in the theatrical version I saw.

Personally, I'd still prefer to watch the 3D version, but I'd certainly agree there was a lot of blurring in it – more than is commonly used in a 3D movie to guide viewers' eyes to the part of the scene considered to be of interest.

Edited by MLXXX
Link to post
Share on other sites

$29 is a good price AFAIC. I had a quick peek at my JB copy today and the 3D looks very nice to me. Quite bright and no cross-talk apparent at the point I viewed :)

Link to post
Share on other sites


JB have the 3D version for $29 does any others B & M shops beat that ?

I haven't been buying movies lately because of streaming, but no 3D streams yet.

BigW has Jurassic World 3D for sale for $28.

Link to post
Share on other sites

This may be so but in store at Big W Burleigh Heads the price is $28. Their online store should get on the same page!!

Online versions of B & M stores are often quite different in operation and stock... it's nothing to do with any affront towards rural customers or the like.

Quite often it is reversed and the online price is cheaper than instore...

Rural customers that get the same postage charges as city dwellers are actually getting a better deal and are basically subsidised by city customers.

JSmith :ninja:

Link to post
Share on other sites

Online versions of B & M stores are often quite different in operation and stock... it's nothing to do with any affront towards rural customers or the like.

Quite often it is reversed and the online price is cheaper than instore...

Rural customers that get the same postage charges as city dwellers are actually getting a better deal and are basically subsidised by city customers.

JSmith :ninja:

The cost of operation is far less for online retailers, the online price should always be parity or less.

As for postage, most online retailers charge for delivery and this is usually pegged to geographic location. Those that don't, obviously do so for strategic reasons and/or have negotiated favorable rates with AusPost that enable them to do so.

It is true that Australia Post charge a flat rate for letter post to all Australian destinations (as in most other civilized countries) and there are many reason for this (some of which are mandated by legislation) but this is not true for Parcel Post ... To describe this as city people subsidizing the country is misinformed and quite small minded (really).

Edited by Mr Robot
Link to post
Share on other sites

The cost of operation is far less for online retailers, the online price should always be parity or less.

Hency why I said "Quite often it is reversed and the online price is cheaper than instore..." :rolleyes:

Should? How about you let private businesses run the way they want to... we're not talking about a charity or Govt. service here. :P

To describe this as city people subsidising the country is misinformed.

C'mon... the city subsidises the country all over the place, get real. :lol:

Back OT;

awKePo1_700b.jpg

JSmith :ninja:

Link to post
Share on other sites

Don't bother... it's cr@p and not worth owning @ $28+.

JSmith :ninja:

Thanks, I guess a negative contribution still counts ... Not so sure it's is actually informed by viewing the Blu Ray the thread is about though.

Have you seen it on Blu Ray Smithy? which version did you watch, 2D or 3D?

Link to post
Share on other sites

Perhaps this is because the item is being sold by a marketplace seller Movies and Games Plus, and not Big W directly. We all know that Australian online retail services are pretty lacking in many areas, so I don't know why anyone would bother to bicker over it. We all choose to live where we do, and this will sometimes come with disadvantages. When a title is cheaper in store than it is online by a substantial margin (and you don't have access to the retailer nearby), surely you have a friend or two on here that could pick you up a copy and post it to you for a couple of bucks (on Blu-ray.com members do it for each other all the time, isn't this site friendly enough for members to want to do this for one another?). If you don't have someone on here that would be willing to do this for you when you need it, perhaps being quick to throw around the word troll over something so minor has something to do with it ;):)

Edit: Removed two words from a sentence, to help it flow better.

Edited by Cevolution
Link to post
Share on other sites

Just finished watching this at home in 3D. Fantastic transfer. A way better film than I was expecting.

In terms of 3D PQ, no ghosting or annoying anomalies at all. Super bright picture - although most of the 3D visual was "into" the screen.

Loved it!

Link to post
Share on other sites

I had a mate that apparently stood up and cheered with the rest of the patrons at the cinema at the final scenes........ I on the other hand really disliked the ending.

Lucky to get a 2/5 from me

Edited by Jutta
Link to post
Share on other sites

This may be so but in store at Big W Burleigh Heads the price is $28. Their online store should get on the same page!!

online = rural and regional are are always gouged as second class citizens.

feigned offence

Huh? :huh:

I don't believe Bris007 meant anything of the sort... you carry on about taking the thread off topic when it was you who did so. You can't make such comments without expecting a retort of some kind. To then carry on like some kind of martyr rather than just backing up your original comments with facts simply shows you cannot do so.

Clearly we were all just discussing Jurassic World itself, the merits of CGI and pricing of the bluray release.

Is all this just because Yorac started this thread? If so let us all know and we'll start a new one ok? :unsure:

This video discusses some very interesting points regarding use of CGI in Jurassic World, particularly how we perceive it;

JSmith :ninja:

Link to post
Share on other sites

I still bought it. Just watched it with my son. He enjoyed it.

Bit disappointed with the scenes running over the menu at the start of the bluray. I'd avoid looking at those of you haven't seen the movie before watching as it gives up much of the story and highlights in just a few short cuts. But maybe that's me. I even try to avoid the trailers for movies I want to see. Rather the surprise of watching it.

Anyway looks pretty tidy on bluray. Only watched the 2D. Both 3D glasses have been broken by the kids, snapped wings......very flimsy design.

Link to post
Share on other sites

who gives a ****.........

if you dont like it, dont watch it.

if you dont like the price, dont buy it.

i enjoyed the film, so i will buy it to enjoy again.

Sorry Browny, I thought forums were for actually discussing the topics and having opinions... my apologies. :hmm:

For me the film not only lost it on the CGI and colour grading, but about half way through many of the characters seems to become brainless... clearly a script writing issue right there. As for a quick CGI laded popcorn flick... ok I suppose, but there's better even in that genre. It pales in comparison to the original as had every sequel in the JP franchise.

I might buy it in a few years when it's $8...

JSmith :ninja:

Link to post
Share on other sites

Whatched the 2d version to tonight ... The extended family all thought it was pretty good with some good scares along the way.

No one complained about any CGI or otherwise on the special effects.

Edited by Mr Robot
Link to post
Share on other sites

who gives a ****.........

if you dont like it, dont watch it.

if you dont like the price, dont buy it.

i enjoyed the film, so i will buy it to enjoy again.

says it all

Edited by TCC
Link to post
Share on other sites

Everyone has an opinion..

Depending on what rose coloured classes you are wearing they are correct or not.

mixo

+1

Watched this last night and was impressed ... Just don't get what or why some would bother arguing over it.

Just gotta love those big lizards through a Seaton F2

Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.




×
×
  • Create New...