bmwheath Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Hey guys, just after a used Marantz AV8801 pre/pro, let me know what you have, thanks 0404 120820. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battler009 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 What are you offering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmwheath Posted September 1, 2014 Author Share Posted September 1, 2014 Im still after 1 if it comes along at the right price, cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmwheath Posted September 2, 2014 Author Share Posted September 2, 2014 As asked? Will negotiate price when a used one comes along Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sero Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 (edited) already chops? what you upgrading too? my father in law is after a marantz after he heard mine.. what did you want for it? Pm me. Edited September 3, 2014 by HTPC-Guru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brodricj Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Waiting for the 80.3 to be fixed, then I'll decide which one I'm keeping. Forget both, get the Krell pre-pro, you won't regret it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brodricj Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I just want a pre/pro that does what it is supposed to without special treatment. Having owned both the 80.3 and the Krell, to me it's a no-brainer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddhamus Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Having owned both the 80.3 and the Krell, to me it's a no-brainer...How much is the krell beejay? Who sells it around here in aus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sero Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Think the Krell was around the 9k mark last time i looked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minty Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Think the Krell was around the 9k mark last time i looked 3 times the cost of an 80.3, it'd want to be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brodricj Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 The original Krell Foundation is $10k RRP, but they have just upped the build spec to 4K pass-through and DSD and increased the price by $2k I think (existing owners can upgrade for $1k + shipping). http://www.tivolihifi.com/product/av-receivers/krell-foundation-home-theatre-processor Obviously it's not 3 times better than the 80.3, but at that part of the exponential price curve things start to get expensive if you want better than supermarket grade performance. The Krell is an outstanding piece in my system and I think worthy of its price point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sero Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 If you look hard enough you can pick up a dataset for less than the krell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sero Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 from memory there was a hong kong website a few of the guys found that had them for like 7.5K no idea if they ended up going that route though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minty Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) Obviously it's not 3 times better than the 80.3, but at that part of the exponential price curve things start to get expensive if you want better than supermarket grade performance. Obviously Integra probably didn't factor in that some owners can't work out the menu system or set it up correctly to optimise its performance. Supermarket performance - lol Edited September 4, 2014 by minty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brodricj Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 That's another thing in favor of the Krell, in comparison to the 80.3 it is a far simpler box to contend with...just compare the owners manual for each and you'll appreciate the completely different level in installation complexity and options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jutta Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 yeah a laugh at that one two. Obviously people are entitled to their opinions, but suggesting Integra's are "supermarket" grade is just plain ridiculous. Plenty of people here and elsewhere have said that the Integra punches well about it's price weight (SRP 5k). Sorry for the OT............. Imagine how some of us Denon and Yamaha owners feel........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brodricj Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 The supermarket term was actually used by my dealer in relation to the 80.3 (and other things) when discussing my upgrade options a few months back. It might seem harsh, but in the context of that discussion I understand what he was getting at. The 80.3 is a good piece at its price point, but it was just nowhere near as good sonically as what it replaced (Halcro), nor what replaced it (Krell). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sero Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I rate Yamaha higher than denon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasadena Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I think the 8801 is excellent value for money and not having heard the 8802 is probably one of the best pre-pro's to get in it's class. IHMO, having to spend double that amount on small gains for a HT side of things is not justifyable. If you're going 2CH, there's plenty out there in the couple thousands that will do a better job and do a bypass and integrate a HT receiver into your system to get the best of both worlds. I'm the only one in the houshould that listens to 2CH so I've got what I need for 2CH but for HT, my wife and kids and not going to analyze a movie for the last few percentile, they're there to watch and enjoy a movie and I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brodricj Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 @pasadena that's why I think the Krell is worth spending double+ the money on, because it is so good at doing both HT and 2ch. It is way more than a few percentile above the 80.3 level, it swings in a completely different league. I'm happy to recommend the 80.3 at its price point, however if the Krell fits the budget it is the no-brainer choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minty Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Went to Coles this morning, then Woolworths, no sign of any Integra's..........phew!!!! The $2 Shop have a few left mate, first isle on the left, just past the Yamaha gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassmaniac69 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Went to Coles this morning, then Woolworths, no sign of any Integra's..........phew!!!! Try Aldi mate! But you might have to line up to get one, they might only have one or two coming in..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sero Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Haters! I enjoy hearing about the higher priced gear. And value the opinion if he has owned an integra and now the krell, he would know what sounds better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brodricj Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Of the pre-pro's I've owned I rate them: 1. Halcro SSP + Audyssey Pro (but without Audyssey the Krell wins). 2. Krell Foundation 7.1 then quite a gap to 3. Parasound Halo C2 + Audyssey Pro (no HDMI, if not an issue) then closely followed by 4. Integra DHC 80.3 with Audyssey Pro then quite a bit behind, but never-the-less a good piece in it's day 5. Yamaha DSP-A1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brodricj Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 We were sort of drifting, and the 80.3 was mentioned, and I threw Krell in there as well which made us drift some more. But with purpose. The OP is looking for an AV8801, which on my reading of it is widely held as being a slightly better piece than the 80.3...but for the cash he might drop on an AV8801 you can get a used Krell out of the US for about that price, if you're content on using a step-down transformer. I know people here in Australia who have done that (not including me, mine is a 230V one). So we're pitching options at the OP, hopefully useful ones even though we might drift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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