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Hi,

I've just signed a contract to level our back yard and put in a pool. To level the yard, will require retaining walls along the 3 boundaries. From the back deck, the yard will be about 15m long (to the back fence) and 10m wide.

I thought I'd take the opportunity to wire up the back fence so I can install a pair of outdoor speakers facing back towards the deck so I can listen to music from the deck or pool area while kids entertain themselves inside. I'm having second thoughts as to whether this is the best way to go so I'm seeking any advice.

Aesthetically, I think this would provide a bit of wow factor rather than placing speakers under the eaves or back wall of the house but I do want to get half decent sound and that might be where my idea falls down. The speakers I've been eyeing off are Yamaha's NSAW992 model which have an 8 inch woofer to provide a richer sound (I've also looked at Polk's Atrium 6, Klipsch's AW-650's and Bose's 251 environmental speakers). I haven't looked at any of the in-ground speakers as kids, dirt and speakers don't tend to mix. My budget will max out at $700 (and I haven't even costed any decent speaker wires yet). They're hard to demo because I'm yet to find anywhere that has an open 15 x 10m audition area.

Now the speakers will be completely exposed to the elements if I go this way and I know along with rain and the summer heat (I'm in Brisbane) I also have the added bonus of them being crapped and wee'd on by possums and bats (and who knows what else). I'm starting to think a limited warranty might not cover that...

I'll be using Zone 2 on my Integra DTR-7.8 and I estimate that the speaker cable will be at least 22m end-to-end (maybe one will be longer if they're run in parallel and then needs to get to the other corner).

Should I just ditch the eye candy and put them under the eaves/back wall? Why I've avoided this to now is I'm thinking when we're entertaining on our deck, kids will be watching the tele and there won't be as much separation from the sounds sources as there would be if I were to install along the back fence. I also won't be able to hide the conduits with this option (unless I start putting holes in walls).

Any advice appreciated.

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is that $700 each or per pair?

QSC AD82H gets my pic for the best outdoor "budget" speaker

http://qsc.com/products/loudspeakers/acousticdesign_surface_mount/AD-S82H/

I actually use them as "rears" my large open plan kitchen/living room (I've got them hidden though)

These guys sell them..........occasionally come up on ebay second hand

http://www.tag.com.au/component/option,com_acat/method,product/id,948/

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Have a mate who purchased these on a whim and they sound bloody great.

I've not heard the big floor standers they used to make but they rate pretty highly - that was the only advise I had for him at the time.

Best sounding $199 speakers I've ever heard.

https://emotiva.com/products/speakers/uom-62

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do you like your neighbours? ;)

Haha. Yeh, I do wanna keep in good with the neighbours. Which is why I thought having them pointing back towards the house will keep the sound more contained rather than pointing out into the yard.

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Have a mate who purchased these on a whim and they sound bloody great.

I've not heard the big floor standers they used to make but they rate pretty highly - that was the only advise I had for him at the time.

Best sounding $199 speakers I've ever heard.

https://emotiva.com/products/speakers/uom-62

Hi Jutta, do you know if these are sold anywhere in Aus or are they are US import?

EDIT: Just saw they import. Will definitely add them to the list.

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lots of headphones? (not much wow factor though !)

Thanks Harold. Let me know how your headphone only dinner parties go...

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Eastwood HiFi have those speakers for $529.

http://www.eastwoodhifi.com.au/specials%20-%20speakers.htm

As for speaker cable, 22 Metres, go to bunnings and buy this stuff... ($38 for 30 metres. JB's sell the same stuff for over $90). You shouldn't need any thicker than 14G on that run.

http://www.bunnings.com.au/studio-acoustic-30m-14ga-speaker-cable_p4360363

Perhaps get yourself some conduit while you're in bunnings too and run the cable through it.

How about making a shade box/cover (with open front) for your speakers so the elements aren't beating down on them so much?

As for placement, from what I've been told - no more than 10 feet high and have the speakers on a slight angle, pointing downwards. Might take a little bit of time figure out how far apart you need em to get the right staging/stereo effect.

Another couple of points, which you may have already thought about, but if not...

Check the additional zone you're using on your receiver can receive whatever signal you want to send to it.

I had to buy one of these for my apple TV to run on my supposed 3rd/Garden zone...

http://www.thecableconnection.com.au/Optical--Coaxial-PCM-Digital-to-Analogue-Stereo-RCA-Converter.html

For Foxtel I connected the RCA cables, matching up to the same HDMI number (AV2 = HDMI 2).

You might have to do the same for you Blu Ray player, if like me you also use it to listen to CD's.

iPod dock works as is for me.

Cheers

Pete

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If you purchase from Eastwood Hifi they are usually pretty good with including speaker wire. The boys there look after you :)

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Run some more conduit for future power and quad shield for the big outdoor TV...... He he

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Eastwood HiFi have those speakers for $529.

http://www.eastwoodhifi.com.au/specials%20-%20speakers.htm

As for speaker cable, 22 Metres, go to bunnings and buy this stuff... ($38 for 30 metres. JB's sell the same stuff for over $90). You shouldn't need any thicker than 14G on that run.

http://www.bunnings.com.au/studio-acoustic-30m-14ga-speaker-cable_p4360363

Perhaps get yourself some conduit while you're in bunnings too and run the cable through it.

How about making a shade box/cover (with open front) for your speakers so the elements aren't beating down on them so much?

As for placement, from what I've been told - no more than 10 feet high and have the speakers on a slight angle, pointing downwards. Might take a little bit of time figure out how far apart you need em to get the right staging/stereo effect.

Another couple of points, which you may have already thought about, but if not...

Check the additional zone you're using on your receiver can receive whatever signal you want to send to it.

I had to buy one of these for my apple TV to run on my supposed 3rd/Garden zone...

http://www.thecableconnection.com.au/Optical--Coaxial-PCM-Digital-to-Analogue-Stereo-RCA-Converter.html

For Foxtel I connected the RCA cables, matching up to the same HDMI number (AV2 = HDMI 2).

You might have to do the same for you Blu Ray player, if like me you also use it to listen to CD's.

iPod dock works as is for me.

Cheers

Pete

Thanks Pete!

Unfortunately, Eastwood Hifi are a bit too far away. The Bunnings cable looks the goods though. It will be run through the walls via conduit but I don't have any plans to hook up a tele in future - music will be enough I think and the main lounge with my big plasma runs off the deck so it isn't too far away.

After some more digging, I think I'll be going with these PSB speakers at about $600 a pair.

http://www.psbspeakers.com/products/outdoor-speakers/CS1000-Universal-In-Outdoor-Speakers

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Unfortunately, Eastwood Hifi are a bit too far away.

Eastwood will ship anywhere Australia wide. The bulk of their business is online so shipping is a big part of their business model.

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