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I have just had a very heated discussion with foxtel and managed to get the hidden truth out of the rep.

Yes showtime and movie network are being replaced on 1st Jan with the new foxtel channels. There will be 9 channels +2 time shift.

What they are not making known is that the only movies that will be shown are those that are currently available to foxtel from the showtime channels studios. Foxtel have bought out PMP (showtime) and thus the content agreements with those movie houses continues.

Foxtel no longer has any agreement with movie network or the studio houses that are on it. So from the 1st Jan there will be no movie from Warner bros, MGM, Lionsgate, Roadshow, Starz, Touchstone, Mirimax and a few others.

Foxtel will be filing out the new channels with movies from the current showtime movie studio houses.

What this means for you and me is we will still be paying $32 per month for the movie package but there will be 7 less channels and far far less movies to pick from. All movies currently shown on Movie Network will not be there. The exception to this is Disney who will recommence showing movies on the Disney Channel.

I have arranged for disconnection as this is crap! I will not pay the same money for less, or what it really is, is paying double for showtime movies rebranded.

read it carefully, its foxtel saving money and trying to make out like its a good thing for customers.

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I have just had a very heated discussion with foxtel and managed to get the hidden truth out of the rep.

Yes showtime and movie network are being replaced on 1st Jan with the new foxtel channels. There will be 9 channels +2 time shift.

What they are not making known is that the only movies that will be shown are those that are currently available to foxtel from the showtime channels studios. Foxtel have bought out PMP (showtime) and thus the content agreements with those movie houses continues.

Foxtel no longer has any agreement with movie network or the studio houses that are on it. So from the 1st Jan there will be no movie from Warner bros, MGM, Lionsgate, Roadshow, Starz, Touchstone, Mirimax and a few others.

Foxtel will be filing out the new channels with movies from the current showtime movie studio houses.

What this means for you and me is we will still be paying $32 per month for the movie package but there will be 7 less channels and far far less movies to pick from. All movies currently shown on Movie Network will not be there. The exception to this is Disney who will recommence showing movies on the Disney Channel.

I have arranged for disconnection as this is crap! I will not pay the same money for less, or what it really is, is paying double for showtime movies rebranded.

read it carefully, its foxtel saving money and trying to make out like its a good thing for customers.

This has been well discussed in another thread. Personally I'll be tossing movies all together from Dec 31

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One can only assume Foxtel movies will go the way of Sky NZ which also offers a platinum movie service for $32/month and when I check the TV guide for SKY Movies I notice both Movie Network and Showtime movies.

What irritates me is that Foxtel should have either: 1) negotiated with movie studios the rights for Movie Network movies before the change or, 2) reduced the monthly fee to reflect the reduced service or (better yet) allow free on demand movies (e.g. 2 movies / month) for the first quarter of 2013 while they negotiated. When viewers realise what has happened I am sure subscribers will drop out and make any negotiations more difficult (more subscribers usually mean a better deal can be struck with the movie studios, fewer mean the movie studios can play hard ball).

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"Hidden truth" "Heated argument"

Yes because we all know heated arguments uncover the hidden truth

You really think Foxtel will let slip an entire library and back-catalogue of movies from Warner, Disney, Roadshow et al?

You really think Warner, Disney, Roadshow et al dont want to make money by having a movie channel show their product?

You seriously think that? I weep for some people

How about waiting until you hear the REAL TRUTH from Foxtel before jumping at shadows from information you got off a sales rep who doesnt even know how many channels there are on the service, let alone what movies they will offer...

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Have to agree Dan Foxtel needs Warner,MGM,Roadshow et al as much as they need Foxtel,it must at crossing the Tee's and Dotting the I's before they reappear on our screens

cheers laurie

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Have to agree Dan Foxtel needs Warner,MGM,Roadshow et al as much as they need Foxtel,it must at crossing the Tee's and Dotting the I's before they reappear on our screens

cheers laurie

Thats what Foxtel will be doing, just finalizing the agreements, i mean look at on demand the "Lost Studios" have same day PPV titles its just a matter of time till they sign the deal, if they are still missing by Feb/March then its bad timing to replace the channels.

and its not like anyone gets foxtel for the movies. if so they need to get there head checked.

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and its not like anyone gets foxtel for the movies. if so they need to get there head checked.

Maybe 10 years ago, but not anymore - considering how stupidly easy it is to get movies (internet: streaming and downloads - even on consoles, blurays and DVD - both legal and pirated) I have to agree with you Aussiedude

Also, doesnt anyone remember how long Foxtel spend trying to get the Movie Network channels on their platform in the first place? Its was the ultimate "coup de grace" when they secured the "Optus" movie channels, and as its been noted Roadshow and Warner especially have a huge presence on the 'on demand' section

They arent going anywhere, the scaremongering and false information needs to stop

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Lol you all have had foxtel for years. You pay them money and then complain for more than ten years some of you. Here is my advice if ya don't like the service cancel your contract.

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Also, doesnt anyone remember how long Foxtel spend trying to get the Movie Network channels on their platform in the first place? Its was the ultimate "coup de grace" when they secured the "Optus" movie channels, and as its been noted Roadshow and Warner especially have a huge presence on the 'on demand' section

They arent going anywhere, the scaremongering and false information needs to stop

Yeah it was like late 2002 when Foxtel get the Movie Network from Optus under a new deal. also gave foxtel MTV and ESPN. before then it was just showtime showtime greats and Encore. i dont care about the movie channels other than showcase. have HD platinum but almost never watch the movie channels. got foxtel in 2002 when they got the AFL and had it since mainly just for the sport.

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Lol timy that is the way. Don't get good service just dump it. Eventually there won't be a service to be had. Complaints directed properly are what improves service.

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Not so sure about that SDL. When Foxtel introduced the HD editions of various channels the SD versions gained a random (and potentially quite loud) random glitch in the audio after an ad / promo break. To the very day that I dropped pay tv the glitch was there, despite me making contact with Austar ('no sir we don't hear that at all') and the various channel operators directly. I have a reliable technical contact for one channel operator and his feed back was 'Yes, we have noticed it and have queried Foxtel about it but nothing has been done about it yet'. It seems that Foxtel is not only deaf to the subscribers, it is deaf to its partners too.

Good luck with your 'properly directed' complaints.

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Have to agree Dan Foxtel needs Warner,MGM,Roadshow et al as much as they need Foxtel,it must at crossing the Tee's and Dotting the I's before they reappear on our screens

cheers laurie

Well I hope so. At the moment the preview TV guide for January does NOT list any MCN movies (e.g. Sherlock Holmes, 21 Jump Street, Contagion, etc.) so let's hope this is fixed by Feb (or the preview guide is wrong!). Either way for January we are only getting half our money's worth and if there are any MCN movies you were considering watching I think now is a good time to do so before it's too late. I also assume if we record MCN movies (good idea to stock up since we lose these movies come next month) they will still be available for viewing from Jan 1 even though the "rights" to show these have presumably elapsed.

For the official information from Foxtel see: http://www.foxtel.com.au/discover/movies_package/default.htm

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For the official information from Foxtel see: http://www.foxtel.co...age/default.htm

Going on the pitcure on the link I am pretty sure LA Confidential is a Warner Brothers movie (it was 15 or so years ago when it was released on VHS - I remember because it had no macrovision, typical of Warner titles) so seems like Warner is stitched up

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The ad they're running between movies at the moment, specifically lists Warner, Village Roadshow, MGM and Disney as being part of the package. I'm not about to drop the movie package.

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The ad they're running between movies at the moment, specifically lists Warner, Village Roadshow, MGM and Disney as being part of the package. I'm not about to drop the movie package.

thats only for the on demand movies for which foxtel have always had a direct agreement with the movie houses for that. The on demand agreement is separate to the broadcast agreement as they are internet delivered. But as stated above, if no one believes me look at the jan guide, there are no MNC movies there. And all disney movies are going back to the disney channel.

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thats only for the on demand movies for which foxtel have always had a direct agreement with the movie houses for that. The on demand agreement is separate to the broadcast agreement as they are internet delivered. But as stated above, if no one believes me look at the jan guide, there are no MNC movies there. And all disney movies are going back to the disney channel.

I just debunked you - Foxtel are promoting LA Confidential which is from Warner, which was being shown on MNC

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Blade Runner, is also a Warner Brothers Film, as is Heat, both have been airing on Showtime, and Showtime Action. When the Showtime movie channels went HD, Blade Runner: The Final Cut was one of the first films shown on either Showtime Premier or Action HD. Heat, the Michael Mann film from 1995, has been on showtime action hd, is a warner film, but is also under regency enterprises umbrella, http://www.imdb.com/company/co0021592/ .

So just because some films are showing up in the January PDF file, which is on foxtel's website, doesn't mean anything. It probably means that some warner films(also regency enterprise films) will be on, as has been previously.

Having a look at movie networks guide, which is showing January, even though the channel is going to be defunct in 12 days time, films like Drive, My Week With Marilyn and 50/50, which were going to be the premiers for that month, looks like they won't be on Foxtel Movie Channels, at least not until Foxtel and the Various MNC studios have come to an agreement. http://mnc.tv/guide

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been going through the guide and there is heaps of paramount films on in January.

Thats because paramount is one of the studios that are part of the showtime PMP agreement. Its not one of the studios i listed as not being there.

Also, as far as L.A. Confidential goes, just because a movie was made by warner, does not mean the rights are sill only held by warner. its common for rights be sold or become part of take overs. it was also made in partnership with another house.

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Have to agree Dan Foxtel needs Warner,MGM,Roadshow et al as much as they need Foxtel,it must at crossing the Tee's and Dotting the I's before they reappear on our screens

cheers laurie

Yes indeed it is happening (Roadshow in the bag):

http://www.knowfirst.info/forums/showthread.php?t=44678

so the wheels are in motion for the migration of MGM, WB, etc. to the new movie channels, it's a question of how long it will take to see the effect on the new channels.

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Yes indeed it is happening (Roadshow in the bag):

http://www.knowfirst...ead.php?t=44678

so the wheels are in motion for the migration of MGM, WB, etc. to the new movie channels, it's a question of how long it will take to see the effect on the new channels.

thank you for posting that link, another piece too prove that my OP was right. So until they are all on board, we are getting shafted paying full price for movies!

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Received the January Foxtel Magazine in post today, the pdf file that is on foxtel's website is the same as the magazine, no warner bros films, roadshow, disney etc for January looks like either Feb or March before we see the others on the new channel. Pity they didn't reduce the price for the months that will not have the movie network studios on the new channels, as we are getting a reduction in product for a time.

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Received the January Foxtel Magazine in post today, the pdf file that is on foxtel's website is the same as the magazine, no warner bros films, roadshow, disney etc for January looks like either Feb or March before we see the others on the new channel. Pity they didn't reduce the price for the months that will not have the movie network studios on the new channels, as we are getting a reduction in product for a time.

This thread I rediscovered on Knowfirst discusses exactly this:

http://www.knowfirst.info/forums/showthread.php?t=44645&page=2

and that Village Roadshow is first off the ranks because they started negotiations early.

It also confirms the monopolistic behaviour of Foxtel which will ensure the remaining movie studios will have no choice but to sign up, or they will be left hanging high and dry since with the closure of MNC they have no where to go. For the viewer however it means a degraded service for at least the first quarter of 2013 and then a service which is at best no different and possibly inferior (only one premier movie channel rather than two) to the current, but cheaper and all good for Foxtel.

Quick tip: The smart move would be to subscribe to either the Showtime or MNC movie package (but not both) before Dec 31 and then from Jan 1 both will have access to the same premium channel (but a limited selection of the other channels) which will eventually show movies from all the major studios which is better than what you get currently with $16/month.

I think Movie Basic Showcase:

http://www.foxtel.com.au/support/movies-premium-drama/faqs/default.htm#subtopic4

is the best deal. For $16/month you get Premier, Showcase, Action and Drama (but not Family, Thriller and Masterpiece). Since we love our movies we will probably stick with the complete package but if you are not a movie lover but would like at least some movies this is a pretty good deal, but you have until Dec 31 to secure it. Obviously Foxtel hopes nobody realises this until it is too late!

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Received the January Foxtel Magazine in post today, the pdf file that is on foxtel's website is the same as the magazine, no warner bros films, roadshow, disney etc for January looks like either Feb or March before we see the others on the new channel. Pity they didn't reduce the price for the months that will not have the movie network studios on the new channels, as we are getting a reduction in product for a time.

you do realize that the magazine is printed a few weeks ago. and since the Roadshow agreement was only signed in the past few days, they still might show some roadshow movies next month.

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you do realize that the magazine is printed a few weeks ago. and since the Roadshow agreement was only signed in the past few days, they still might show some roadshow movies next month.

Yeah, actually isn't it like 2 or 3 months in advance, the magazine done? Small chance of roadshow turning up in January.

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you do realize that the magazine is printed a few weeks ago. and since the Roadshow agreement was only signed in the past few days, they still might show some roadshow movies next month.

Foxtel (or maybe the movie studios?) sure are in a hurry to sign up.

Just one day after Village Roadshow, we have Warner Bros on board:

http://www.knowfirst...ead.php?t=44686

So only MGM and DIsney left? I think this will all be sown up by the end of the month at this rate.

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Foxtel (or maybe the movie studios?) sure are in a hurry to sign up.

Just one day after Village Roadshow, we have Warner Bros on board:

http://www.knowfirst...ead.php?t=44686

So only MGM and DIsney left? I think this will all be sown up by the end of the month at this rate.

That's a great outcome. Looks like it's all coming togethor nicely. One thing I noticed in that article is - "including the ability to stream movies within the Foxtel Go service from early 2013.". This is excellent news.

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Just googled for more insight (OK so I am bored now that I am on leave and got nothing else better to do? ;) ) and came across this:

http://www.deadline.com/?s=foxtel

and just in:

http://www.heraldsun...o-1226541760457

I wonder what to make of the statement: "A new pricing structure will be announced early next year."?

P.S. If I go through Google apparently I get through the pay-wall from the Herald Sun / Australian so I copy and paste below (note my highlights of interest):

Foxtel adds two movie studios

FOXTEL has signed movie distribution deals with two of the major studios that were shareholders in Movie Network and is continuing talks with Disney and MGM.

Warner Bros and Roadshow movie content will be part of Foxtel’s own suite of movie channels when they launch on January 1.

A new pricing structure will be announced early next year.

Foxtel corporate affairs director Bruce Meagher said current movie subscribers would find their channels would switch to the new Foxtel channels next month, with single-package subscribers moved to an equivalent tier.

New subscribers will have to sign up to the Foxtel Movies and Premium Drama package of nine channels.

Mr Meagher said Foxtel was “fairly confident” of signing deals with Disney and MGM to add to existing suppliers Universal, Sony Columbia and Twentieth Century Fox's joint venture operation, Premium Movie Partnership.

He would not comment on the new pricing but said all changes aimed to simplify things for the pay-TV company’s subscribers.

Foxtel announced its new channel line-up earlier this month after it opted not to renew its movie contracts with suppliers in favour of building its own, streamlined movie channels package.

In October Foxtel bought out PMP's assets and took the Showtime and showcase channels in-house.

Two weeks ago Media revealed staff at Movie Network had been told the company, which was the collective negotiating vehicle jointly owned by Warner Bros, Disney, MGM and Roadshow, would close down by the end of this year, with the loss of 42 jobs.

The new line-up of Foxtel movie channels includes Premiere, showcase, Action/Adventure, Comedy, Drama/Romance, Family, Thriller/Crime, Masterpiece and World Movies with high-definition, standard-definition and time-shift options, as well as a library of on-demand titles.

Foxtel chief executive Richard Freudenstein said: “Our research told us customers want one destination for their movies, as well as simple navigation to find the movie they feel like watching.”

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I am looking through the january movie guide and ive noticed that movies are on more than one channel!

Small soldiers is on family and action/adventure on the same day, just different times

The look whos talking moves are on comedy and family across the month

yes i can see these movie channels are going to be just wonderful......not

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it would be very interesting to see

how many people drop the movie channels after jan 1.

i'm thinking about it save $32 a month.

there are movies on other channels. and even on abc 2 and

7two if you like old movies.

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