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My C7 from JB came in a small private courier van but was upright and the delivery guy asked me to check the “tilt sensors” attached to the box to confirm that it had not been laid on one side or angl

Not many people will highlight this in there OLED comparisons but the LG has the best operating system of any TV on the market and not by a small margin but a country mile.The PQ difference between th

You are not adding a lot to the discussion qwertyqaz.

Do OLED TVs have a chance of being mass-produced in the future?

Yes, huge investment has gone into this. Once the production bugs are ironed out, OLED will be cheaper to produce mass scale than LCD.

"But a couple of advances in OLED production have been revealed that will ultimately drive down the price in OLED production, making them cheaper and more common than they currently are.

Making them Faster and more Cheaply

A five-year old California company called Kateeva has built a machine that changes the way OLED screens are manufactured.

OLED screens are made in a fashion somewhat like multi-color silkscreening. A stencil blocks out the areas where certain organic compounds will be applied, and they're stacked layer by layer through the process of vaporization. The first problem with this process is that it must be done in a vacuum, the second problem is that materials are wasted when they're applied to the stenciled-out areas.

Kateeva's process utilizes inkjet print nozzles to apply the relevant materials, so that stencils are no longer needed and resources are not wasted.

Kateeva says its machine, called YIELDjet, can produce OLED screens at a rate ten times faster than current production allows, that it decreases production downtime, and that it decreases particle contamination to which OLEDs are susceptible.

Getting Rid of the Expensive Components

OLEDs work because an organic layer of semiconductors glows when an electrical current is applied. To improve the reliability of the reactions that cause the screen to glow, heavy metals like platinum and iridium must be added. But as the reliability increases, the light energy of the reaction drops significantly, and heat energy increases.

Researchers at the University of Bonn in Germany discovered that other compounds besides these expensive heavy metals can be used without a significant drop in reliability or increase in heat energy.

This means the expensive heavy metal parts of OLED screens might not be necessary in future generations, so their price will drop without an appreciable impact on reliability or picture quality."

http://www.energyandcapital.com/articles/investing-in-the-next-generation-of-tv-screens/4043

Bear in mind as well these companies want to make sure they make as much money out of LCD as they can before making OLED's too cheap... ;)

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Believe it when you see its, and can afford to buy it. Until then its all vaporware.

Oh I can "afford" it... I'm just not going to spend $9000+ on one just yet. ;)

It 'aint vaporware.

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It ain't the bees knees either. $9000 for a 55" OLED TV that doesn't look like a huge step ahead of my $1550 55" LED-edgelit LCD is ridiculous.

Of course it's ridiculous, it's a new technology and somehow I think it's supposed to be ridiculous too. ;)

Have you considered the idea that to a consumer suddenly $1000 or so doesn't seem so bad when there's another screen sitting there for 9 times the price which is the same size?

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Have you considered the idea that to a consumer suddenly $1000 or so doesn't seem so bad when there's another screen sitting there for 9 times the price which is the same size?

$1000 could get you a 29" widescreen CRT around 10 years ago so a 55" LCD with better resolution and arguably better PQ is good value.

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$1000 could get you a 29" widescreen CRT around 10 years ago so a 55" LCD with better resolution and arguably better PQ is good value.

Never said it wasn't good value... it seems you missed my point.

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Wasnt THAT long ago I was sitting at a retailer watching a "massive" 52" sony LCD wondering when I was going to be able to afford one, RRP $8999!

Yep I said the same thing about the Kuro from memory it was around the $18,000 mark depends who you got it from thank god I waited to get it at a fire sale price

cheers laurie

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Wasnt THAT long ago I was sitting at a retailer watching a "massive" 52" sony LCD wondering when I was going to be able to afford one, RRP $8999!
Yes, but the downward price driver in that instance is now gone (worldwide move to digital TV such that everyone was buying a new TV). And even so I think Samsung said they made a net loss on screens they sold over 42" in size. Whether OLED is successful will have little to do with how good its PQ is - that doesn't drive most TV sales.

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You can't expect retailers to keep showcasing larger and larger screens selling for $1,000 to $1,500, taking up all that floor space.

Don't think they have much choice its not like you can buy online.TV's are the type of product that you need to see in front of you switched on and seeing some type of picture on it jmho!!

cheers laurie

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Yep I said the same thing about the Kuro from memory it was around the $18,000 mark depends who you got it from thank god I waited to get it at a fire sale price

cheers laurie

The first Kuro was a 1080 50" and it cost about $9k on release. At the same time a Panasonic 65" was available and it cost $18k.

The first 60" Plasma, a 768p model cost almost $40k back in the day.

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Don't think they have much choice its not like you can buy online.TV's are the type of product that you need to see in front of you switched on and seeing some type of picture on it jmho!!

Yes, you do need to see the picture for yourself and also need to hear the sound.

This is what makes the OLED TV ads and the Bose sound ads seem pointless. I can't see the "beautiful colours" of the OLED TV on my plain LED TV and hear the "difference" of the Bose speakers on my TV/Yamaha HT. All I can actually see/hear is someone telling me that they're great.

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Yes, you do need to see the picture for yourself and also need to hear the sound.

This is what makes the OLED TV ads and the Bose sound ads seem pointless. I can't see the "beautiful colours" of the OLED TV on my plain LED TV and hear the "difference" of the Bose speakers on my TV/Yamaha HT. All I can actually see/hear is someone telling me that they're great.

Many successful marketing campaigns have over the last few decades relied upon enticing consumers to 'come and check out how great something is' in person, I see no reason why that wouldn't work for oled.

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Many successful marketing campaigns have over the last few decades relied upon enticing consumers to 'come and check out how great something is' in person, I see no reason why that wouldn't work for oled.

just in time pour Le Mondial

here we go OLE OLE OLED

do you really want it !!!!???

Go Go!!... OLE OLE OLED

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How will typical Aus FTA look on it?

Where they displaying a "special" demo video on the one you saw or real content like a normal Bluray movie?

I'll bet it looks just like a LED LCD for free to air viewing, at least with the settings used in store. Its not going to be forgiving of bad source.

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Its not going to be forgiving of bad source.

For a screen to be accurate it should not be "forgiving" of low quality source material, rather, should simply display it correctly... warts and all.

I didn't think you were into polishing turds? ;):P

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It ain't the bees knees either. $9000 for a 55" OLED TV that doesn't look like a huge step ahead of my $1550 55" LED-edgelit LCD is ridiculous.

How many of us have actually seen OLED yet? If the claims of 'Infinite Blacks', 'Less Motion Blur' and 'More Accurate Color' are true then OLED is a huge step forward.

I just saw a review of an LG 55" OLED at CES on TV. Only 4mm thick at thinnest section and weighs just 17kg.

I hope they do continue to develop larger screen with prices reducing. When I can get an 80"+ 4k for under $8k I'll pull the trigger.

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Crap..... and may even be unwatchable unless there is a mode on the display called "Australian FTA" please turn on

cheers laurie

My TV has a mode for Australian FTA TV - it prompts me to press the power button......Look at those blacks!

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For a screen to be accurate it should not be "forgiving" of low quality source material, rather, should simply display it correctly... warts and all.

I didn't think you were into polishing turds? ;):P

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My idea of "accurate" is in image that looks more like the real analogue world, rather than a digital TV.

Any display that emphasizes the deficiencies of digital video is unacceptable as far as I am concerned, and I wont buy one because it would bother me every time I used it.

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My idea of "accurate" is in image that looks more like the real analogue world, rather than a digital TV.

Any display that emphasizes the deficiencies of digital video is unacceptable as far as I am concerned, and I wont buy one because it would bother me every time I used it.

Like unnaturally sharp LCD's?

(Certainly one of my main beefs with them, that and PQ which varies depending on viewing angle)

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First thing that came to my mind also when I saw one, had to move back 100m!!!

cheers laurie

Guess that happens when you get used to an overly "soft" plasma... ;)

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