JSmith Posted January 17, 2014 Author Share Posted January 17, 2014 Its not going to be forgiving of bad source. For a screen to be accurate it should not be "forgiving" of low quality source material, rather, should simply display it correctly... warts and all. I didn't think you were into polishing turds? JSmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomerJ Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 (edited) It ain't the bees knees either. $9000 for a 55" OLED TV that doesn't look like a huge step ahead of my $1550 55" LED-edgelit LCD is ridiculous. How many of us have actually seen OLED yet? If the claims of 'Infinite Blacks', 'Less Motion Blur' and 'More Accurate Color' are true then OLED is a huge step forward. I just saw a review of an LG 55" OLED at CES on TV. Only 4mm thick at thinnest section and weighs just 17kg. I hope they do continue to develop larger screen with prices reducing. When I can get an 80"+ 4k for under $8k I'll pull the trigger. Edited January 18, 2014 by HomerJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurie Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 How will typical Aus FTA look on it? Crap..... and may even be unwatchable unless there is a mode on the display called "Australian FTA" please turn oncheers laurie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eth Nick Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Crap..... and may even be unwatchable unless there is a mode on the display called "Australian FTA" please turn on cheers laurie My TV has a mode for Australian FTA TV - it prompts me to press the power button......Look at those blacks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miata Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Bring on Dolby Vision I say!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tweet Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Ya gotta love 'free to air' television, It's a sure way to save on power bills. C.M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) For a screen to be accurate it should not be "forgiving" of low quality source material, rather, should simply display it correctly... warts and all. I didn't think you were into polishing turds? JSmith My idea of "accurate" is in image that looks more like the real analogue world, rather than a digital TV. Any display that emphasizes the deficiencies of digital video is unacceptable as far as I am concerned, and I wont buy one because it would bother me every time I used it. Edited January 20, 2014 by Owen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgdownload Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) .\ Edited January 20, 2014 by pgdownload Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djOS Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 My idea of "accurate" is in image that looks more like the real analogue world, rather than a digital TV. Any display that emphasizes the deficiencies of digital video is unacceptable as far as I am concerned, and I wont buy one because it would bother me every time I used it. Like unnaturally sharp LCD's? (Certainly one of my main beefs with them, that and PQ which varies depending on viewing angle) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kulfi Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Like unnaturally sharp LCD's? The demo OLEDs I haave seen are unnaturally sharp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSmith Posted January 22, 2014 Author Share Posted January 22, 2014 The demo OLEDs I haave seen are unnaturally sharp. What were they displaying? JSmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurie Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 The demo OLEDs I haave seen are unnaturally sharp. First thing that came to my mind also when I saw one, had to move back 100m!!!cheers laurie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSmith Posted January 22, 2014 Author Share Posted January 22, 2014 First thing that came to my mind also when I saw one, had to move back 100m!!! cheers laurie Guess that happens when you get used to an overly "soft" plasma... JSmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurie Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Guess that happens when you get used to an overly "soft" plasma... JSmith Spot on jsmith cheers laurie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kulfi Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 The OLED TVs were displaying the demo loops provided by Samsung and LG respectively. I have LED-backlit LCDs and the images were over-sharpened even by my standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSmith Posted January 22, 2014 Author Share Posted January 22, 2014 The OLED TVs were displaying the demo loops provided by Samsung and LG respectively. I thought so and must say I don't think anyone could make a decent assessment of the panel playing such material and with in-store conditions. JSmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I agree, all flat panel displays have much the same inherent "sharpness". Visible differences will come down to differences in brightness and digital processing. Excessive sharpness is a bad thing with any display technology. When it comes to displaying images free of compression artifacts, I expect OLED will be much more like Plasma than LCD, which is seriously deficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kulfi Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 The Samsung OLED demo loop displays the words "Extreme Sharpness" as one of the positive attributes of the TV, so you can imagine what it looks like in-store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drizt Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I agree, all flat panel displays have much the same inherent "sharpness". Visible differences will come down to differences in brightness and digital processing. Excessive sharpness is a bad thing with any display technology. When it comes to displaying images free of compression artifacts, I expect OLED will be much more like Plasma than LCD, which is seriously deficient. Hey owen, do you **** and moan during a root? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 If expecting products to perform properly is ****ing and moaning to you, so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kulfi Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 If expecting products to perform properly is ****ing and moaning to you, so be it. "Perform", "moaning", how bad is this ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djOS Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I agree, all flat panel displays have much the same inherent "sharpness". Visible differences will come down to differences in brightness and digital processing. Excessive sharpness is a bad thing with any display technology. When it comes to displaying images free of compression artifacts, I expect OLED will be much more like Plasma than LCD, which is seriously deficient. IMO it boils down to the image looking unnaturally sharp or naturally sharp, most LCD's fall into the former category to me, especially those horrid LED edge lit TV's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSmith Posted January 28, 2014 Author Share Posted January 28, 2014 When it comes to displaying images free of compression artifacts, I expect OLED will be much more like Plasma than LCD, which is seriously deficient. You expect huh... Displaying images free of compression artefacts depends on the source, codec and the video processing. Why you think new, expensive top of the line OLED panels will have deficient video processing is beyond me... ...especially those horrid LED edge lit TV's! Lucky we're talking about OLED then... JSmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) You expect huh... Displaying images free of compression artefacts depends on the source, codec and the video processing. Actually the display technology its self has a large influence on performance. LCD has always had colour resolution and pixelation issues at low video levels that processing could not fix. Samsung Plasma TV's look significantly better then their LCD models with the same poor quality source. Do you really think Samsung use inferior processing in their LCD TV's then in their Plasma's? Why would they do that? My 2007 vintage Sony SXRD doesn’t have great video processing by current standards yet handles crap source like Youtube really well will almost no pixelation, blocking or posterization, and my JVC projector, which uses similar display technology, is noticeably better again. Both are WAY better than any LCD display even though the TV is 70" and the projector screen 100". MUCH smaller LCD's look nasty with the same source at the same viewing distance. The VT60 Panasonic Plasma has turned out to be better then expected. I have always been happy with Plasmas handling of low grade source like free to air TV, even with the cheap no name Chinese models, but the VT60 is better then anything I have seen before and is certainly better than the previous generation Panasonic’s. I haven't tested Youtube video as yet, but with Foxtel and free to air its right up there with the Sony SXRD on average. Some content is a little better on the Sony and some a little better on the Panasonic, and for a flat panel TV that's a remarkable performance. The JVC projector is a step up over both despite its much larger size screen, its pretty much immune to digital nasties. Why you think new, expensive top of the line OLED panels will have deficient video processing is beyond me... Read my post again and you will see that what you have said here makes no sense. I never even suggested expensive OLED TV's would have deficient video processing. What I do expect is better performance than LCD with the same standard of video processing, because the display technology is totally different and should avoid the inherent limitations of LCD. Edited January 29, 2014 by Owen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSmith Posted January 29, 2014 Author Share Posted January 29, 2014 Read my post again and you will see that what you have said here makes no sense. You're right, I misread your post, apologies... am I now getting the impression you're warming to the potential benefits of an OLED flat panel display? Maybe that's where I stumbled... JSmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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