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Playing GT5 in 3d mode on this tv is amazing i love it. so much better than 2d. especially as i first played cod black ops and i thought that 3d was ****.

Very happy with the 3d now was a bit worried that the whole 3d thing was a bit of a wank, but not now anyone with this tv needs to get a ps3 and gt5

I am waiting for Killzone 3(D) due out in February. It will probably be the greatest FPS ever released & supposedly pushes the PS3 to the extreme of its processing ability!!

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Well my SC-BTT755 redemption pack came through on Xmas Eve of all nights meaning Santa was a little early, but it seems everything is working fine except the supplied remote control.

Basically the damn thing doesn't work, all other parts of the system are ok, but remote won't work, tried swapping batteries, tried new batteries - no go. But this is where it gets really weird - With Xmas over I hadn't used it for a couple days, then I thought I would try the remote again and it worked, but only for a short time before it dies again. Last night it was doing that several times, works, stops working, and its extremely frustrating. The remote can't even control the TV which it should, which leads me to believe its a dodgy remote. I did notice an option where you can reassign the remote control to code1/2, but this doesn't do anything.

I'm assuming other people who have had their packs shipped have no problem with their remotes and works 100% of the time? I guess its just a a flaky remote (and I can call Panasonic support later) but any other ideas as its becoming rather frustrating!

Can the TV remote be used to control the bluray player over Viera link?

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How many owners have a dead or 'flickering' pixel on their VT20 panel?

I just wanted to get an idea of the probability that I'll get another panel with another faulty pixel. If there's a high chance of that I'll just keep the one I have.

Thanks.

PS Yes I have contacted Panasonic.

Not on my 58VT20A thank the heavens , being 2 weeks old now - so I hope not for sometime to come as well!!

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Can the TV remote be used to control the bluray player over Viera link?

Yes it can which was how I've been getting by in controlling it...HOWEVER I think I have since fixed the problem. I read up a bit more about it and it says in the manual if the remote isn't responding to the player to press and hold power for 5 seconds or unplug from the wall socket and leave for 1 min or so. I did that a few times alternating and it seems to work ok now. For example the power toggle button actually turns it on/off which it wasn't before, and I can control the volume of the unit through the 'TV' component section on the remote. I certainly couldn't do that before. It will be interesting to see what Panasonic support come back with seeings I couldn't speak with them in person due to the Xmas break.

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I have recently purchased a VT20A and the redemption is in the 'validated phase' Whilst I wait with baited breath I was wondering if anyone had hooked up their SC-BTT755 redemption BluRay player Surround sound system and how they find the quality of the sound?

The reason I ask is frankly I'm a little confused on exactly how this unit can be of any long term benefit as the SC-BTT755 does not posses any HDMI inputs. While playing Blu Ray disks will give a 5.1 experience, what about other entertainment sources (ie PVR/media players etc ) through the SC-BTT755 speakers?

Does Panasonic expect these additional devices to be feed into the VT20A and back to the SC-BTT755 via ARC? (btw I understand HDMI ARC audio stream is converted to stereo for all sources other than for the DVB-T signal where the original broadcast audio stream is 'passed thu' )

Also as the SC-BTT755 supplied speakers ( particularly the wireless rears) are matched to the main unit, it makes things difficult to split.

Currently I have a set of Orpheus Front speakers which perform beautifully, so to replace them is not something I'm keen on.

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There is a single optical in on the btt755.

This can be used to connect another 5.1 source if you are willing to not run everything over HDMI.

Just a heads up, the btt755 won't decode DTS from the optical in, only from its internal bluray player.

I'm using my XBMC box to transcode the DTS into AC3 which it will decode.

Odd, maybe some licensing issue...

I'm no audio connoisseur, but the btt755 is noticeably better than the TV's own speakers.

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There is a single optical in on the btt755.

This can be used to connect another 5.1 source if you are willing to not run everything over HDMI.

Yes I'm using the VT20A Optical O/P to feed audio back to the existing Yamaha AV. However my understanding is this o/p (like ARC) is stereo audio only; not a 5.1 stream, but a converted stereo stream by the VT20A. Meaning to say only a 5.1 audio stream (very rare) received by the DVB-T tuner will be passed as a 5.1 audio stream down these channels ( ie ARC and Optical), and any 5.1 audio source received via HDMI will be converted to stereo by the VT20A.

I'm no audio connoisseur, but the btt755 is noticeably better than the TV's own speakers.

Yes I would imagine so however I'm using the Orpheus speakers via an Amp; not the internal TV speakers

Just a heads up, the btt755 won't decode DTS from the optical in, only from its internal bluray player.

I'm using my XBMC box to transcode the DTS into AC3 which it will decode.

Does this mean the XBMC box is connected to the BTT755 via optical? and that's how you managed to get 5.1 audio out of the SC- BTT755 from a source other than the internal Blu Ray player?

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I believe you are correct on the ARC / Optical out from the TV.

Only stereo from HDMI sources.

5.1 from the internal tuner if the channel has it.

Does this mean the XBMC box is connected to the BTT755 via optical? and that's how you managed to get 5.1 audio out of the SC- BTT755 from a source other than the internal Blu Ray player?

Yes. I have a zotac ID-11 running XBMCLive connected on HDMI3 to the TV. It also has optical from the zotac to the btt755.

XBMC is configured to send the audio to the optical out.

It sends AC3 / Dolby streams raw which the btt755 is fine with; and transcodes DTS to AC3 on the fly to get around the DTS limitation of the btt755.

1080p content with both DTS 5.1 and AC3 5.1 audio play just fine.

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I have purchased the 54" of this model and will be receiving the SCBTT755 in due course as part as Panasonic,s promotion. I already have a 5.1 surround system powered by a Pioneer Amp and was wandering if i can just use the SCBTT55 as a stand alone Blu Ray player and plug it into one of my HDMI inputs on my amp and then switch the video to the T.V. and have surround sound through my existing speakers via the Pioneer Amp..

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I have recently purchased a VT20A and the redemption is in the 'validated phase' Whilst I wait with baited breath I was wondering if anyone had hooked up their SC-BTT755 redemption BluRay player Surround sound system and how they find the quality of the sound?

The reason I ask is frankly I'm a little confused on exactly how this unit can be of any long term benefit as the SC-BTT755 does not posses any HDMI inputs. While playing Blu Ray disks will give a 5.1 experience, what about other entertainment sources (ie PVR/media players etc ) through the SC-BTT755 speakers?

Does Panasonic expect these additional devices to be feed into the VT20A and back to the SC-BTT755 via ARC? (btw I understand HDMI ARC audio stream is converted to stereo for all sources other than for the DVB-T signal where the original broadcast audio stream is 'passed thu' )

Also as the SC-BTT755 supplied speakers ( particularly the wireless rears) are matched to the main unit, it makes things difficult to split.

Currently I have a set of Orpheus Front speakers which perform beautifully, so to replace them is not something I'm keen on.

I have set up the player and find the sound acceptable except that it is a little bass heavy. Still experimenting with the set up but I was a little dissappointed to find that unlike the tv which has a user adjustable equaliser, the SC-BTT755 has only 4 factory set options for sound shaping: FLAT, HEAVY, CLEAR and SOFT. If I am missing some hidden control please let me know.

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Hi Owners what is the largest hard drive you can attach to this set via USB.

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There is a link in the manual:

USB Info for Viera

2TB is the max. Only one (superseded) USB HDD is certified by Panasonic (which I have).

External hard drive for use with VT20

I note that the certified, superseded, drive is "Buffalo DriveStation HD-CEU2-A3 Series".

Today I hooked up a 1.5TB Buffalo USB 2.0 External Hard Drive (DriveStation model HD-LBU2, described as HD-LB1 .5TU2-A3 on the packaging). [These happen to be on special at Wow stores.] It took 3 minutes to format (hard drive was then locked to my particular VT20 TV set, unless reformatted [as described below]). It worked fine. It would record the currently selected digital TV station (and program description) at the press of a button. It would not record analogue stations. Selection of file to play back was straightforward (accessed using the "SDCARD" button).

However, I imagine any powered USB 2.0 hard drive not exceeding 2TB would be likely to work.

Restoring external hard drive for use with windows pc

I then connected the 1.5TB external drive to my Vista home theatre pc. I used disk management (control panel classic menu/administration tools/ disk management) to delete the volume, and then create a simple volume with NTFS formatting. Of course the TV recordings were lost in the reformatting process.

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Is anyone having issues getting their TV to update its software?

Mine is at 3.401?

It always gets about 50% through the download when it loses the connection to the server.

You can do a manual download here http://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/bd/d...0_350_euro.html click on the TV link on the left select Oceania

and then your screen size etc etc

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I have set up the player and find the sound acceptable except that it is a little bass heavy. Still experimenting with the set up but I was a little dissappointed to find that unlike the tv which has a user adjustable equaliser, the SC-BTT755 has only 4 factory set options for sound shaping: FLAT, HEAVY, CLEAR and SOFT. If I am missing some hidden control please let me know.

I downloaded the manual for the BTT737 (which I think is the same as the 755?) and like my old Sony Sava ProLogic speakers, there's preset sound modes that you listed, but you can alter them, as I interrupt the manual.

Adjusting speaker level during play

Press > (increase) or < (decrease) to adjust the speaker level for each speaker.

-6 dB to +6 dB

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I downloaded the manual for the BTT737 (which I think is the same as the 755?) and like my old Sony Sava ProLogic speakers, there's preset sound modes that you listed, but you can alter them, as I interrupt the manual.

Yes you are correct - the level of each speaker can be slightly adjusted to suit speaker placement or room acoustics but it appears that no further frequency equalisation can be performed. Personally, I would like to be able to make adjustments and this may determine whether I keep this system. UPDATE The subwoofer level can be adjusted separately to 4 preset levels, Weak to Strong.

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Is the digital audio out of this t.v only connected to the DVB-T or can you pass the Foxtel signal to the T.V. via HDMI, or any other device connected to the t.v. and then digital audio out to my Pioneer A.V.

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Is the digital audio out of this t.v only connected to the DVB-T or can you pass the Foxtel signal to the T.V. via HDMI, or any other device connected to the t.v. and then digital audio out to my Pioneer A.V.

Tried it last night with pvr, yes it does work.

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I just got back from holidays and have had a chance to test out some picture settings from other posters. I just can't get the pic looking natural or anywhere near how my old pana plasma looked. It's so disappointing, however I'm starting to think it must be my panel as I'm sure other people wouldn't be happy if theirs was the same.

The pic just looks washed out. I'm going to call panasonic tomorrow and ask them what they recommend to do.

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Is anyone getting any funny lines on the edges of the screen in THX picture mode??

It's only happening when I watch TV and mainly on SBS HD and 10 Digital.

On SBS HD I get a big yellow flickering line on the left hand side of the screen.

This is only happening in the THX mode..

Would like to get other peoples thoughts on this...I will try and post some pictures of the yellow lines...

I just bought this TV and like others have said i reckon the picture quality is very average for the top of the line Panasonic plasma range...

I can't even watch the cricket as you cannot see the ball at all in fast motion. My old pana SD 42inch had much better quality pictures...

Who knows maybe time and hours will improve quality..

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Is anyone getting any funny lines on the edges of the screen in THX picture mode??

It's only happening when I watch TV and mainly on SBS HD and 10 Digital.

It's because THX mode has overscan turned off, which means that each pixel transmitted to your screen is being displayed. In all the other modes, overscan is turned on. It crops off a little bit of each edge in order to avoid showing the scraggly bits that are found on television broadcasts.

Generally, when watching TV, it is better to either use a different picture setting, or change the overscan in THX mode to on.

When watching DVD or Blu-Ray however, best results are with overscan turned off.

Hope I've helped :)

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I feel a bit ripped off that we don't get timer recordings onto USB like overseas models do.

I'd love a feature like that!

We're stuck with just instant record :(

Why on earth would this not be available to Aust. models?

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Agree that the lack of timer recording is annoying.

I was hoping to leverage on the DLNA ability, and put all of my home movies on a NAS.

Plan was for the NAS to have raid drives, hence a backup. I could then access my movies from the NAS

However, according to the manual, the TV will only play MPEG2 - and not MP4

Is this correct? It seems the only way to play high quality stuff if using a USB stick in the side of the TV and the inbuilt Media Player?

This seems like a major flaw, as Panasonic have HD camcorders and even 3D camcorders are coming, but you wont be able to play the HD or 3D video of your kids soccer game unless you plug the camcoder directly into the TV, or using the SD card slot. Backup to the NAS are useless essentially, as is sharing from other devices (the whole point of DLNA).

I am new to this TV, so let me know if i am missing something here!

Cheers

Mike

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thinking of getting one of these, is the complete owners manual available somewhere as a download?

i've searched and can't find it - pana could do with putting it on their support pages

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thinking of getting one of these, is the complete owners manual available somewhere as a download?

i've searched and can't find it - pana could do with putting it on their support pages

Australian manuals are often not available on line. The corresponding British Panasonic model is the TX-P50VT20B. You can get Panasonic UK manuals at http://www.panasonic.co.uk/html/en_GB/Supp...ml#anker_220239 by keying in the British model number.

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thinking of getting one of these, is the complete owners manual available somewhere as a download?

i've searched and can't find it - pana could do with putting it on their support pages

The V20A Manual is there,link on bottom of "Details" page. My Brother downloaded the Manual for one of the 3D models before Xmas,may have been removed for some reason.

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may have been removed for some reason.

that seems to be the case - it's not there now for the TH-P50VT20A nor are there many others of the newer neo plasma range

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Had a glitch occur yesterday which required more than the usual power cycle solution, so I thought I'd put it here and see if anyone else has seen the same, or learn from this if you see it.

Symptom1: No ARC on the HDMI to my AV Receiver (which has been working flawlessly until yesterday). Resetting the Vieralink settings and restarting TV and Receiver did not fix this.

Symptom2: Any Attempt to record to the attached USB HDD resulted in the usual grey banner but the HDD | REC indicator comes up as HDD | PAUSED and then the TV controls freeze with the grey banner (USB HDD recording) and the HDD | PAUSED indictor frozen, then after about 30s the TV restarts itself.

Solution required these steps: safe disconnect of the USB HDD, full power off of the TV and restart, reconnect the USB HDD, and then (horror) re-register and mandatory reformat of the HDD which took about 10 minutes (much longer than the 1st time) and of course good-bye all recordings.

At the same time on restart I accepted the 'new channel found' warning (for 11) even though I had manually rescanned for 11 the previous day... no idea if this also put the software in an unstable state.

Anyway, all seems back to 'normal' so far: HDD recording and ARC working.

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Hey guys,

Got a 58VT20A (i'd expect it runs similar software to the 50VT20?), does anyone know if it can be made to automatically switch off if it loses HDMI signal (from a HTPC), similar to a PC monitor?

-Steve

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Hey guys,

Got a 58VT20A (i'd expect it runs similar software to the 50VT20?), does anyone know if it can be made to automatically switch off if it loses HDMI signal (from a HTPC), similar to a PC monitor?

-Steve

Also very interested in this. Anyone got it working like above?

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I feel a bit ripped off that we don't get timer recordings onto USB like overseas models do.

I'd love a feature like that!

We're stuck with just instant record :(

Why on earth would this not be available to Aust. models?

Could be that they fear their PVR's would become redundant. Samsung equivalent allows timer recording ,time shifting. I went from the 63C7000 to the 65vt20 and the lack of this feature was a tad dissapointing.

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Personally, I would like to be able to make adjustments and this may determine whether I keep this system.

Did you end up keeping this system ? I received mine yesterday and have been comparing it to my previous system (while not exactly apples vs apples).

My older system was analogue pro logic, Sony SAVA57 (large tower speakers with the amp built in). Just been playing around with the new system today and have to admit the ability to alter the sound is very limited and more clumsy. As we both posted, you can increase/decrease the output level for the rear, centre & subwoofer only, and have those 4 sound settings to use...but that's about it. The only main thing I'm a tad disappointed about is the output volume. At it's maximum it's only half what my older system can push out, but it's not too often we give the speakers a workout, say when we're listening to music. But we'll hang on to this system for now. It's smaller, has the ipod dock, and the sound quality is more defined compared to the pro logic system. It's all a bit of a new experience since we have a real centre speaker now, rather then the synthetic one created by the pro logic system, and rear speakers that work independently compared to the Sony's being tired together.

Last thing to do is wall mount the speakers to free up more space...just gotta work out the best distance to have the front speakers from the TV.

Tim

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Yes I did end up keeping the system despite it's limitations. After some more time and various Bluray titles I agree with your description of the sound being quite detailed. The lack of volume is, I suppose, to be expected considering the space for amplifier circuitry within the player but overall I have come to appreciate it for what it is - a decent sounding 5.1 system with very good HD Bluray reproduction.

Brendan

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Hey!

I've had the VT20 for about a month and LOVING it. Waited for years for plasmas to catch up to CRT - they now have. I've seen the Kuro (50-inch) during Olympics, and saw pixels during the b/ball matches - the VT20 is better (imHo) :ninja:

Only prob's:

1. Full white screen leads to some buzzing (but that's also b/c sound is low to not wake the kids)

2. 3D (bundled Avatar BD) - great using the bundled glasses, fuzzy with the ones that came with the TV.

3. BIG problem for me - cannot connect to internet (wired, using cat6 cable) - fails at the gateway part of the connection test. Any ideas anyone?

As for the BT755: agree, very slow to load, took forever to get audio out of the ARC HDMI connections.

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I have been into the service menu, but did not check if you can adjust the overscan. Away from home ATM so can'c check for you. However, while calibrating with my DVE BD, I did notice that my 58VT is spot on to the disc's test pattern overscan. Of course, one think you should remember is that overscan off is the only setting where you get zero scaling of the picture and the correct dot x dot resolution. I have my overscan off for nearly everything and only need to activate it for the occasional side artifacts. C

If component is causing these for you, maybe your best bet would be to invest in another source that does not cause the artifacts???

OK - so how do we access the service menu?

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I am new to the world of plasmas and just got my parents the 58VT20A.

Just wanting to know if there is any sort of burn in programs I should be using, and if so which mode to use them on, Standard, THX, etc???

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I just got this TV yesterday. I don't have a blueray player yet, but want to try out the 3D capabilities.

I found a few websites with free 3d content, but I can't get them to work. Seems the playback support of the panasonic is very limited. Free 3D content for download here:

http://www.biohemmet.se/3dtrailers.php

http://3dguy.tv/downloads/

http://3dvision-blog.com

Questions:

1. 3D playback through USB. Has anyone tried this? What file format works? The TV doesn't recognise the files I've tried. .mkv, .mp4, .wmv

2. 3D playback through a laptop. Anyone got this to work? I've connected my laptop through S-video to the TV, but there's no 3D menu on the TV. It seems the 3D menu only appears under certain conditions

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I tried AVI file through USB. It plays, but there are no options to turn on 3D. It looks like 3D is only supported through HDMI?

Are there cables that allow me to connect a computer/laptop through HDMI to the TV?

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