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It looks like maybe only external HDDS. This isn't a bad thing when you consider SD recordings take up ~3GB/Hr and HD is ~6-7GB/Hr, so USB thumb drives fill very very quickly. USB thums drives vary in quality and write speeds also, and this is often a limiting factor.

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Damn!

Updated the firmware on my "Free" BT230 HT system and now it hangs at the start with no output and the error message "W OPE" on the display.

Error code not in the manual and nothing via google.

I've contacted Panasonic but probably no response until Monday at the earliest!!

Update - All Fixed.

Just a very long firmware update - 45 minutes!!!

Just upgraded the firmware on the Brother In Laws, unfortunately before the update and after it refuses to play region 4 DVD, BR is fine. Will need to contact Panasonic on Monday. Was hoping the firmware may have fixed the region issue

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Just upgraded the firmware on the Brother In Laws, unfortunately before the update and after it refuses to play region 4 DVD, BR is fine. Will need to contact Panasonic on Monday. Was hoping the firmware may have fixed the region issue

Firmware has nothing to do with it.I had the same thing with a BD player and Pana told me i had to send it to a service centre.I wasn't going to have my time wasted like that so i just took it back to DSE for a full refund. B) Any normal company would have a simple 4 digit remote code to region free the player that they could give you over the phone.Panasonic will likely call this not a waste of your time though but simply a "Feature" :D

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Firmware has nothing to do with it.I had the same thing with a BD player and Pana told me i had to send it to a service centre.I wasn't going to have my time wasted like that so i just took it back to DSE for a full refund. B) Any normal company would have a simple 4 digit remote code to region free the player that they could give you over the phone. Panasonic will likely call this not a waste of your time though but simply a "Feature" :D

My BD Panasonic player was made region free (for DVD's, not BD) by the shop I brought it from, using a special remote. Took about 2 minutes. Wouldn't call that abnormal or **** can Panasonic for that, it is just the way it is. My original Philips DVD player was the same.

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I just got my p54v20a after a 4 week wait,just wanted to ask how to I go about recording a tv show with this USB record feature,first of I plugged in my western digital passport 320gb harddrive and the tv picked up the drive registered it and then formated it,my problem is how do I get it to start recording a show,I tried pressing the red button on the remote but nothing happens,and I can't see any record option in the menues,is there an easy way to do this.

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I just got my p54v20a after a 4 week wait,just wanted to ask how to I go about recording a tv show with this USB record feature,first of I plugged in my western digital passport 320gb harddrive and the tv picked up the drive registered it and then formated it,my problem is how do I get it to start recording a show,I tried pressing the red button on the remote but nothing happens,and I can't see any record option in the menues,is there an easy way to do this.

Make sure the little switch on the bottom of the remote is set to TV. Think you have to push it to the right from memory.

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Make sure the little switch on the bottom of the remote is set to TV. Think you have to push it to the right from memory.

Thanks that was the problem working great now,does a good job to for what I need it to do anyway.

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I just got my p54v20a after a 4 week wait,just wanted to ask how to I go about recording a tv show with this USB record feature,first of I plugged in my western digital passport 320gb harddrive and the tv picked up the drive registered it and then formated it,my problem is how do I get it to start recording a show,I tried pressing the red button on the remote but nothing happens,and I can't see any record option in the menues,is there an easy way to do this.

I just got this working on a 320Gb HDD I had, works pretty good can you program it to record like a Topfield?

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Hello all,

I just got the p54v20a for $2450 from Harvey Norman including the extended warranty and delivery.

I am really happy with the picture quality, however, the TV buzzes during bright scenes. I don't think it is bad as what Macy517 was experiencing.

I have turned the contrast down to 20, but I can hear a faint buzz when the volume is low during greyish bright scenes and can hear the buzz when the volume is loud when the screen is white (like during SBS white logo scene at the start of commercial breaks)

I read in a whirlpool.net.au post that plasma panel buzz is a normal phenomenon, but at approximately 3metres away, I would have thought it to be reasonable to not have to hear this annoying sound.

The TV is on the stand and is about 30cm away from the wall.

I am looking for advice on how to proceed.

Do I:

A ) Get the TV fixed/replaced

B ) Get an LCD instead

C ) Do nothing and just put up with the noise.

Thanks

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Hello all,

I just got the p54v20a for $2450 from Harvey Norman including the extended warranty and delivery.

I am really happy with the picture quality, however, the TV buzzes during bright scenes. I don't think it is bad as what Macy517 was experiencing.

I have turned the contrast down to 20, but I can hear a faint buzz when the volume is low during greyish bright scenes and can hear the buzz when the volume is loud when the screen is white (like during SBS white logo scene at the start of commercial breaks)

I read in a whirlpool.net.au post that plasma panel buzz is a normal phenomenon, but at approximately 3metres away, I would have thought it to be reasonable to not have to hear this annoying sound.

The TV is on the stand and is about 30cm away from the wall.

I am looking for advice on how to proceed.

Do I:

A ) Get the TV fixed/replaced

B ) Get an LCD instead

C ) Do nothing and just put up with the noise.

Thanks

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Go for A all the way.... it is very odd to have this buzzing noise. As for my set it is almost dead silence with the buzzing... I have rigorously tested it with mute on while having all sort of bright scenes and action scene and have not heard a single buzz. Get it over and done with while it is still an early purchased. Good luck and keep us all posted.

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Try moving the TV away from the wall, like in the centre of the room and then sit the same distance away and see if you can still hear the buzz.

If you still can then get it replaced or repaired. If you can't then the problem may be room acoustics (sound reflecting from the wall behind the TV), some sound absorbing material behind the TV may fix it.

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Hello all,

I just got the p54v20a for $2450 from Harvey Norman including the extended warranty and delivery.

I am really happy with the picture quality, however, the TV buzzes during bright scenes. I don't think it is bad as what Macy517 was experiencing.

I have turned the contrast down to 20, but I can hear a faint buzz when the volume is low during greyish bright scenes and can hear the buzz when the volume is loud when the screen is white (like during SBS white logo scene at the start of commercial breaks)

I read in a whirlpool.net.au post that plasma panel buzz is a normal phenomenon, but at approximately 3metres away, I would have thought it to be reasonable to not have to hear this annoying sound.

The TV is on the stand and is about 30cm away from the wall.

I am looking for advice on how to proceed.

Do I:

A ) Get the TV fixed/replaced

B ) Get an LCD instead

C ) Do nothing and just put up with the noise.

Thanks

Mine is exactly the same (delivered last week) and when I spoke to Pana Services they said it was normal and that all their sets make a low buzzing noise. I normally hear buzz's where others don't but it does seem particularly loud with bright screens.

Should I speak to Panasonic again or go back to the retailer?

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Go for A all the way.... it is very odd to have this buzzing noise. As for my set it is almost dead silence with the buzzing...

Good to know that not all sets buzz. I have called Harvey Norman and they are replacing the set tomorrow. Wow, I was really impressed with their service.

Try moving the TV away from the wall, like in the centre of the room and then sit the same distance away and see if you can still hear the buzz.

Didn't help unfortunately. :(

Mine is exactly the same (delivered last week) and when I spoke to Pana Services they said it was normal and that all their sets make a low buzzing noise. I normally hear buzz's where others don't but it does seem particularly loud with bright screens.

Should I speak to Panasonic again or go back to the retailer?

Based on my good experience with Harvey Norman - I would give your retailer a call first, as Harvey Norman are replacing it without question (I was lucky and they still had one in stock). I would be fine with a buzz that you can hear from only a couple of feet away (and was expecting this), but not from my sitting position. Based on kawei8's experience, I think we each have got noisy tvs, but there is hope for quieter ones.

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Sup everyone... just a heads up...

How's everyone with their tv? Hope all is well and good like my one. Everything seems to be working just fine.

Hope everyone got their buzzing tv repaired or replaced.

Preferably replaced would sound great and also got their BT-230 already as well =)

Cheers Mates!!!

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So this plasma buzz effecting both Panasonic and Samsung is rather hard to avoid.

My advice is to have the set replaced only if the buzz is too hard to ignore.

From my extensive research I have came to the conclusion that the buzz comes from defective capacitors.

These major electrical companies buy these things by the millions and unfortunately some of these capacitors are defective to a degree that they output this noise (some louder than others).

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From my extensive research I have came to the conclusion that the buzz comes from defective capacitors.

These major electrical companies buy these things by the millions and unfortunately some of these capacitors are defective to a degree that they output this noise (some louder than others).

If your research is correct it raises a few questions.How many of these defective capacitors can a tv carry before it stops working altogether?Is this just consumer demand for tv's to get cheaper leading to dud components being used in manufacture to save money?What can the consumer reasonably expect the new generation cheap tv to operate for before it dies?

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If your research is correct it raises a few questions.How many of these defective capacitors can a tv carry before it stops working altogether?Is this just consumer demand for tv's to get cheaper leading to dud components being used in manufacture to save money?What can the consumer reasonably expect the new generation cheap tv to operate for before it dies?

These defective capacitors still work properly albeit just with this buzzing sound.

I don't agree with you that the manufacture is using cheaper components at all. In this case its as I stated out of millions of capacitors there will always be a few that are not just right.

My 7 year old plasma has buzzed since day one and is still working a treat and it runs 5-10 hrs a day.

Back to the buzzing, it is directional because inside the board each section is insulated around the capacitors so the sound can only from in front or behind and not from the sides.

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These defective capacitors still work properly albeit just with this buzzing sound.

I don't agree with you that the manufacture is using cheaper components at all. In this case its as I stated out of millions of capacitors there will always be a few that are not just right.

My 7 year old plasma has buzzed since day one and is still working a treat and it runs 5-10 hrs a day.

Back to the buzzing, it is directional because inside the board each section is insulated around the capacitors so the sound can only from in front or behind and not from the sides.

Well thats ok then.I'm buggered if i know how anyone with a tv that buzzes can get a replacment though in that case :huh:.It would seem to me your at the mercy of your retailer who could just tell you it's normal tv operation.My Pana TH-P54Z1A has been whisper quiet from day one.I just muted the amp and i had to stick my head round the back of the thing to hear the faintest noise from the ventilation fans but no buzz!

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If the “buzz” was coming from the speakers filter capacitors in the power supply could be the cause, but since that's not the case it is definitely NOT faulty capacitors so your “extensive research” was not very extensive.

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If the “buzz” was coming from the speakers filter capacitors in the power supply could be the cause, but since that's not the case it is definitely NOT faulty capacitors so your “extensive research” was not very extensive.

Listen to you, rather stern choice of wording there. So you must me the know it all on this forum hey. :lol:

Who said the buzz is coming from the "speakers filter capacitors in the power supply" ?

I did not say that, so seeing that you have attacked me for voicing what my extensive research has told me then you tell us what is causing this on the samsung plasma?

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Sorry I'll correct my punctuation.

If the “buzz” was coming from the speakers, filter capacitors in the power supply could be the cause.

If the “buzz” is not coming from the speakers there is NO WAY its due to faulty capacitors.

I am an electronics tech.

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Sorry I'll correct my punctuation.

If the “buzz” was coming from the speakers, filter capacitors in the power supply could be the cause.

If the “buzz” is not coming from the speakers there is NO WAY its due to faulty capacitors.

I am an electronics tech.

So what is the cause of the buzz in the samsung plasma? What part it is coming from?

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Probably the power supply board, pull the back panel off and with the TV operating you should be able to find the component that is vibrating and generating noise. Once identified it should be possible to apply damping to the offending component or board and mitigate or eliminated the vibration and hence noise.

WARNING, dangerous voltages are present so be bloody careful when touching anything, if in any doubt don't bloody touch.

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Probably the power supply board, pull the back panel off and with the TV operating you should be able to find the component that is vibrating and generating noise. Once identified it should be possible to apply damping to the offending component or board and mitigate or eliminated the vibration and hence noise.

WARNING, dangerous voltages are present so be bloody careful when touching anything, if in any doubt don't bloody touch.

I very much doubt that the sound is coming from vibration in the samsung case. That is common on pana but not with samsungs.

Any other thoughts?

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(Thinking, what am I doing in this thread?...)

But, yeah, I have a Samsung 22" monitor that has a buzz - and it's really annoying - and it goes away if you press on the edge of the screen really hard in one spot! That was a few years ago, now I remember pulling the thing apart because it sucked so badly... I couldn't find an easy way to put pressure in the right spot to fix it however.

Funny how you forget these things.

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Okay, I had the authorised repairer come back the other day with the replacement part. He said the Panasonics have two boards in them. Looking from the back, the one on the right is the SS board and the one of the left is the SC board. He figured the sound was coming from the SS board so he replaced that. Nothing different I'm afraid. So, as far as he is concerned, nothing else can be done.

I will be ringing Harvey Norman, Nunawading, tomorrow to see if they will keep their word and replace the TV.

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Okay, I had the authorised repairer come back the other day with the replacement part. He said the Panasonics have two boards in them. Looking from the back, the one on the right is the SS board and the one of the left is the SC board. He figured the sound was coming from the SS board so he replaced that. Nothing different I'm afraid. So, as far as he is concerned, nothing else can be done.

I will be ringing Harvey Norman, Nunawading, tomorrow to see if they will keep their word and replace the TV.

This is all too common from what I have found.

People think the buzz is an easy fix, but as you have pointed out it isn't.

Its staggering that nobody can confirm over the internet what causes this fault?

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I put the buzzing issue in the too hard basket for a couple of weeks cause i've been to busy to deal with it, and as has been pointed out i sort of doubted that much could be done about it without a terrific amount of fuss.

In the meantime, i've been using the TV stacks and it actually hasn't really been bothering me. I've noticed it a couple of times, it is still there, but i'm pretty sure it has decreased in volume as the TV has worn in a bit.. if that's possible.

The TV is up a couple of inches away from a big flat white masonite wall which would be fairly reflective of sound, so i'm thinking if I stick a few foam tiles behind the TV that will reduce the reflections and i'll probably not notice it at all.

Should i have to do that for a $2500 TV ? probably not Panasonic.. but i've been too busy enjoying stuff like the formula 1 and red bull air race on this mammoth screen to be too worried it about recently! Coming from a 68cm CRT to this is quite the experience.

Tonight i'm screening Avatar on the bt230, first bluray on this system, so really it's the first time i'll have seen actual full HD content on it.. Even DVD's look and sound great so i'm expecting some magic!

-- ( i'm really hoping the BT230 will function easily as a bluray player only for this tonight - bypass it's amp via the hdmi out to an external receiver, then to the TV.. anyone done this? .. Or does the hdmi only output video?? :/ )

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I very much doubt that the sound is coming from vibration in the samsung case. That is common on pana but not with samsungs.

Any other thoughts?

Buzz is due to vibration, find the part that is vibrating, apply damping to that part to reduce or eliminate the vibration and the noise/buzz will be diminished or eliminated, its not rocket science.

Vibration is due to the EMF created by high AC currents so any component that carried such currents is suspect. The prime candidates are the power supply board, panel driver board and the Plasma panel its self.

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Buzz is due to vibration, find the part that is vibrating, apply damping to that part to reduce or eliminate the vibration and the noise/buzz will be diminished or eliminated, its not rocket science.

Vibration is due to the EMF created by high AC currents so any component that carried such currents is suspect. The prime candidates are the power supply board, panel driver board and the Plasma panel its self.

(As you already pointed out, this is if it's not the speakers making the noise... But) I've also (in my travels) heard an IC chip produce a higher pitch (but quieter) buzz to what I hear with my plasma screen, and that's not going to be silenced by most things you can do to it. I'm not saying you're wrong (at all) - you're almost 100% right. But I don't know for sure if something like that chip I mention is/isn't used in these plasma screens somewhere. It may be a case of an unfixable bad design? Or it mat be a case of doing something extra that you don't expect you'd need to do. extra dampening?

But this information probably isn't even worth 2c. It's just what I noticed once.

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The “chip” only makes a noise because it is vibrating, damp the vibration and you can address the noise.

Any component that handles high AC currents will want to vibrate, high current devices also get hot and are normally attached to a heat sink which will in turn vibrate amplifying the noise.

Proper component mounting is critical for quiet operation.

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If it's vibrating internally, and that chip was, you're probably not going to be able to damp it. What I was suggesting (which I should have made more clear) is you might need to insulate the noise instead, which is going that one more step. Insulate/Damp, there's probably not a big difference - we may be talking the same idea - I just wanted to add some extra clarity.

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If it's vibrating internally, and that chip was, you're probably not going to be able to damp it. What I was suggesting (which I should have made more clear) is you might need to insulate the noise instead, which is going that one more step. Insulate/Damp, there's probably not a big difference - we may be talking the same idea - I just wanted to add some extra clarity.

Is it likely that this chip be in a position where you cant see it/get to it therefore being unable to insulate/dampen it?

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Is it likely that this chip be in a position where you cant see it/get to it therefore being unable to insulate/dampen it?

For the tv, I'm not sure, I wouldn't think so..

The chip I was talking about was in a PC network (Gb) hub, which, interestingly, I was replacing capacitors in to fix it from rebooting randomly. It works perfectly now (and did for about 2.5 years before the caps went bad) but it still produces a buzz from the chip. Maybe you can play doctor and use a tube to listen to various things on your circuit boards? And another thought, I guess the difference between damping and insulating would be the material you use for the job. But I've got no more suggestions on what to use.

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